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Grizzly has this Shop Fox cabinet saw on sale for $1295 with free freight shipping. 10", 2HP, dual voltage (requires separate kit to wire 230V)
SPECIFICATIONS:
- Motor: 2 HP, 115V/230V (prewired 115V), single-phase, 16A/8A
- Rip capacity: 31-1/2" right, 11-3/8" left of blade
- Maximum depth of cut @ 90°: 3-1/2"
- Maximum depth of cut @ 45°: 2-1/2"
- Overall table dimensions: 40-1/8" x 27"
- Distance from front of table to center of blade: 16-1/4"
- Floor-to-table height: 34-1/4"
- Arbor diameter: 5/8"
- Arbor speed: 4000 RPM
- Max width of dado: 13/16"
- Dust port size: 4"
- Footprint: 19-1/2" x 20-1/2"
- Overall dimensions: 66" W x 40" D x 48" H
- Approximate shipping weight: 449 lbs.
FEATURES:
- Two-year warranty!!
- Built-In dust port on blade guard
- Easy-glide fence system with micro-adjustment
- Deluxe 2-position aluminum rip fence
- Precision-ground cast-iron table
- Cabinet-mounted cast-iron trunnions
- Quick-release riving knife
- Heavy cast handwheels
- T-slot miter gauge
- 4" Dust port
- Push stick hangar
https://www.grizzly.com/products/...-saw/w1888
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"*This machine is prewired for 115V operation. 230V operation requires purchase and installation of conversion kit X1888224X."
The part number stated does not show up on their website that I could find. I contacted customer service and below is what I was told.
"We appreciate you contacting us regarding your question. You would need the PX1888224X Circuit Breaker 10A. We have provided a link to view/purchase the item."
https://www.grizzly.com/parts/gri...px1888224
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The bigger issue is the parts: $300 in parts means the baseline price of every table saw sold will go up by at least $400.
The only point being - while safety is good, it needs to be considered that you can be protected by your SawStop, then walk 5 feet to your DeWalt miter saw and chop off your fingers.
If table saws accounted for 100% of injuries, then you could argue they numbers will decrease dramatically. But if they account for 10% of injuries, it's a different story. Just food for thought.
The only point being - while safety is good, it needs to be considered that you can be protected by your SawStop, then walk 5 feet to your DeWalt miter saw and chop off your fingers.
If table saws accounted for 100% of injuries, then you could argue they numbers will decrease dramatically. But if they account for 10% of injuries, it's a different story. Just food for thought.
I am a hobby woodworker and currently have the Dewalt table saw, which I have had for 8 years, but always wanted to upgrade to a cabinet style.
Here is a comparison of few models from a quality/price standpoint from the highest to the lowest. Of course tax and shipping may vary, but for me located in the Atlanta area here's what these 3 models came out to
#1
At the higher end of the spectrum was Sawstop which on Rockler.com for the basic cabinet model (#BCS35576) came to a total of $3610 at checkout with tax and shipping.
#2
At the mid-spectrum, if I can call that, the Fusion F2 Table Saw at woodcraft.com came to a total of
$2,137.86 with tax and shipping.
#3
At the lower end of the spectrum was Shop Fox # W1888, which I ordered through the link provided in this thread directly from grizzly.com and came in at $1453.65 with tax. Although shipping is free, I opted for the liftgate service $34.
I am sure there are plenty of other models. But from a Quality vs price standpoint I have seen the above models discussed in various forums and the Shop Fox at the price point seems to be a formidable contender, especially compared to Laguna where the price diff is approx. $700 and this was the reason I pulled the trigger on this.
PS: I do understand it is not fair comparison with Sawstop with includes the safety switch.
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And shortly after sold out to festool. What a morally superior company.
After SawStop won the court case, the changed their tune and told Bosch they could sell their version. Bosch chose not to. That's on them.
You made a good decision. Local woodworker in my hometown, was deciding between a Sawstop and a Unisaw. He decided on the Unisaw, bc he couldn't justify the cost of the Sawstop technology. Besides he has been an advanced woodworker for quite a while, and while a few close calls, he still had all his fingers. Six months after purchasing the Unisaw he had his first full encounter with the blade. He's now missing 3 fingers. When I asked him what happened to his hand, a look of embarrassment came over his face, and he explained the situation, and said there is not a day that goes by, that he doesn't regret his decision. Every time he looks at his hand, or goes to pick up his razor to shave in the morning, or pick up his grandchild.
Edit: Only to add, he also added, that with all his medical bills added up (his portion of the costs), he could have easily bought 4-5 top of the line Sawstop cabinet saws.
Like you, I have been a Sawstop owner for 20 years. I've never regretted my purchase. The technology is worth the cost, the fact that it is a superior tablesaw is just extra icing on in the cake. To each their own I guess, but I enjoy Sawstop, ABS, and airbags. All three have saved my bacon. Oftentimes, new safety technology is mandated, to protect people, from themselves, and protect others from those who have poor decision making ability.
Edit: Only to add, he also added, that with all his medical bills added up (his portion of the costs), he could have easily bought 4-5 top of the line Sawstop cabinet saws.
Like you, I have been a Sawstop owner for 20 years. I've never regretted my purchase. The technology is worth the cost, the fact that it is a superior tablesaw is just extra icing on in the cake. To each their own I guess, but I enjoy Sawstop, ABS, and airbags. All three have saved my bacon. Oftentimes, new safety technology is mandated, to protect people, from themselves, and protect others from those who have poor decision making ability.
What led me to buy a Sawstop (and sell my PM66) was my brother put his finger into the table saw blade but from the side of it so it just burned down the tip of his finger a tiny bit). That was enough for me to say forget it and spend the money to upgrade to a Sawstop. And now having a Sawstop for the last 5+ years, it's better than any Unisaw/Powermatic/Jet I've ever used berfore. Just a well crafted table saw.
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Sure, here's a link… go to 4:40 and listen to the "nonsense" https://youtu.be/nxKkuDduYLk?si=
Edit: Ah, that link takes you to directly after the statement… so you'll need to back it up some