Participating Subaru Dealerships [
dealership locator] have
2023 Subaru Solterra Electric Compact SUV (Premium Trim, code PED-11) available to
Lease at
$241/month for
36 months (total $8,676) plus tax and license fee from participating dealerships w/ zero down for qualified buyers. Contact your local dealership(s) to verify if this offer is available in your area.
Thanks to community member
KhalidS8701 for finding this deal.
- Note: Offer and inventory availability may vary by location.
Features:
- All-wheel-drive electric crossover
- Seats five and carries 23.8 cubic feet of cargo behind its rear seats.
- Range: 228 miles
- 0-60mph in 6.5 seconds
- 8.3" of ground clearance
- Built on Toyota's e-TGNA global battery-electric vehicle platform
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If I may ask, do you have battery failure anxiety? I hope that's not a dumb question, but I know that when it happens it's very expensive. Thanks for your time.
So there are different battery chemistries available for EV's - some are LFP, some are NMC. The NMC batteries tend to have more power density (kwh per pound) so usually longer range EV's will have NMC batteries. LFP has advantages in terms being able to handle more charge/discharge cycles than NMC. But I chose the long range variants in our Teslas so I'll speak to that.
I've watched videos by Jeff Dahn who is a Professor in the Department of Physics & Atmospheric Science and the Department of Chemistry at Dalhousie University. He is recognized as one of the pioneering developers of the lithium-ion battery. Anyways, he and his peers test longevity of batteries based on how a battery is charged and discharged. He found that batteries that were run down to zero percent and charged back up to 100 percent constantly had a MUCH shorter life than batteries that were kept at a state of charge of 40% to 70% (which is about 100 miles in both of our Teslas). Batteries that are kept between 40% and 70% were estimated to be able to go more than 500,000 miles and last decades!
So 99% of my driving is to and from work, visiting friends, going to stores and restaurants so staying between these states of charge is super simple. I get home, plug in the car (level 2 charging 240v which ads about 30 miles to the car per hour of charging so if I'm home at 7pm and go to work at 7pm, that will add up to 360 miles). On road trips, I'll expand the state of charge envelope to 10-80%, but again, this is maybe 6 days a year which is a minimal amount of extra wear.
Given the research that's available, and my use-case fitting within these parameters, I'm confident that a useful amount of battery will be available to me for several decades.
But this highlights why having longer range to begin with is desirable - if you only have a car with real-world 150 mile range and you want to maintain the health of that battery by using 30% of that range daily, that's about 40 miles per day vs our cars that we can use an effective 100 miles per day while staying in that 30% envelope.
I don't miss gas stations. I love having my car warm or cool when I get into it no matter the weather. I love sentry mode and dog mode. Autopilot is amazing. For 40K after tax incentives for a long range awd model Y that comes FULLY LOADED with features, I think it's a great value.
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I'll just share my two cents as a recent convert to EV: the vast majority of my driving is not road trips and I absolutely love my EV for that. Granted I went from Nissan to an Audi Q8 Etron so there's a clear quality upgrade too.
That being said: road tripping isn't great. I road tripped without planning at all and got stuck on slow chargers (~60 kwH) with my family and they weren't happy. Had I planned better I could have hit fast chargers from EA but I was of the "f it, I'll figure it out by doing it" mentality. I learned now, but we also have an ICE (wife's car) we can use for road trips.
You can check out your state with this link (even the worse state in terms of power production, West Virginia)
https://afdc.energy.gov/vehicles/...-emissions
This doesnt seem like a good deal to me.
For example, my Honda Element gets about 20 mpg, so to go 100 miles is 5 gallons. At $4 a gallon, that's $20.
If your car gets 33 mpg, then it would cost you $12 in gas to go 100 miles.
Our Tesla Model 3 uses about 260wh per mile or about 4 miles per kwh (each kwh = 1000wh). So it would take me 25 kwh to go 100 miles. At 15 cents per kw, that's $3.75.
Our Tesla Model Y uses about 290wh per mile or about 3.5 miles per kwh. So to go 100 miles, that's about 28.5 kwh to go 100 miles which would cost about $4.25.
I've driven the Model 3 about 750 miles in a day and felt that stopping to go to the bathroom and stretch my legs every 3.5 hours was perfect keep my energy level up. And of course Autopilot made a huge difference too in arriving refreshed (or at least not exhausted). Usually between eating and going to the bathroom, the car was ready to go charge-wise before I was done with my break!
Save a few dollars on fuel costs but lose Tens of Thousands in depreciation.
You stated 750 miles...on a longer trip you will be adding an extra expense at a hotel or parking lot.
Used car prices have been slowly dropping over the past 12 months, with the average used car now priced at $31,153, a 3.6 percent decline, or $1,161 drop, since last year. While used hybrid vehicles are down about twice that rate, at 6.5 percent or $2,135, electric vehicles have experienced a far more dramatic drop, losing 31.8 percent of their value, which equates to $14,418.
https://www.iseecars.co
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