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expiredKhalidS8701 posted Apr 03, 2024 03:25 PM

Subaru Lease Offer: 2023 Subaru Solterra Compact Electric SUV

w/ Zero Down (+ Tax & License)

$241/mo. for 36 months

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Participating Subaru Dealerships [dealership locator] have 2023 Subaru Solterra Electric Compact SUV (Premium Trim, code PED-11) available to Lease at $241/month for 36 months (total $8,676) plus tax and license fee from participating dealerships w/ zero down for qualified buyers. Contact your local dealership(s) to verify if this offer is available in your area.

Thanks to community member KhalidS8701 for finding this deal.
  • Note: Offer and inventory availability may vary by location.
Features:
  • All-wheel-drive electric crossover
  • Seats five and carries 23.8 cubic feet of cargo behind its rear seats.
  • Range: 228 miles
  • 0-60mph in 6.5 seconds
  • 8.3" of ground clearance
  • Built on Toyota's e-TGNA global battery-electric vehicle platform

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Written by RevOne | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • Offer valid through April 30, 2024.
    • Subject to credit approval, vehicle insurance approval, & vehicle availability. Not all buyers may qualify. Payments may be higher in some states. Net cap cost & monthly payment excludes tax, license, title, registration, insurance, additional options, & retailer charges. Retailer participation may affect actual payment. At lease end, lessee is responsible for vehicle maintenance & repairs not covered by warranty, excessive wear & tear. Lessee pays personal property & ad valorem taxes (where applicable) & insurance. See participating retailer for details.
  • Please see the original post for additional details & give the WIKI and additional forum comments a read for helpful discussion.

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Written by KhalidS8701
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Participating Subaru Dealerships [dealership locator] have 2023 Subaru Solterra Electric Compact SUV (Premium Trim, code PED-11) available to Lease at $241/month for 36 months (total $8,676) plus tax and license fee from participating dealerships w/ zero down for qualified buyers. Contact your local dealership(s) to verify if this offer is available in your area.

Thanks to community member KhalidS8701 for finding this deal.
  • Note: Offer and inventory availability may vary by location.
Features:
  • All-wheel-drive electric crossover
  • Seats five and carries 23.8 cubic feet of cargo behind its rear seats.
  • Range: 228 miles
  • 0-60mph in 6.5 seconds
  • 8.3" of ground clearance
  • Built on Toyota's e-TGNA global battery-electric vehicle platform

Editor's Notes

Written by RevOne | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • Offer valid through April 30, 2024.
    • Subject to credit approval, vehicle insurance approval, & vehicle availability. Not all buyers may qualify. Payments may be higher in some states. Net cap cost & monthly payment excludes tax, license, title, registration, insurance, additional options, & retailer charges. Retailer participation may affect actual payment. At lease end, lessee is responsible for vehicle maintenance & repairs not covered by warranty, excessive wear & tear. Lessee pays personal property & ad valorem taxes (where applicable) & insurance. See participating retailer for details.
  • Please see the original post for additional details & give the WIKI and additional forum comments a read for helpful discussion.

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RicardoR5620
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Mine at 100% charge gets 175 miles of range (don't turn on the climate because that knocks it down to 160 miles), dealer says they are working on a fix. But won't look at the car.
nadanunca
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You may want to look at the Hyundai Ioniq 6. Rated for 360 mile range on a 100% charge, and Hyundai's been doing $7,500 cashback to offset the ineligibility for federal credits. And if you're really lucky, your state won't charge sales tax—NJ didn't for mine.
Tarkov
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Too bad insurance on this would be another $200

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Apr 05, 2024 10:02 AM
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waterdishApr 05, 2024 10:02 AM
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Quote from robhong :
Until they make an EV which fully recharges in 15-20 mins (this is the time taken to refill gas, use the restroom and grab something to munch on while I'm on long trips) I'll be avoiding these for now. As it stands, Toyota's hydrogen engines look more promising.
They already exist.
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Apr 05, 2024 10:57 AM
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nesanApr 05, 2024 10:57 AM
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Did anyone have success doing a price match with the dealer outside of California or Nevada?
Apr 05, 2024 11:24 AM
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ansonvsApr 05, 2024 11:24 AM
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Quote from leeterbike :
Could you imagine if EV owners bashed ICE vehicle owners the way they bash EV owners? I'm a car enthusiast, I have a Porsche and a Corvette Z06, I also have a Tesla model S, and anytime I brag about the Tesla, people judge and paint me in a light of tree hugging environmentalist and (insert whatever political party).

What's the big deal about someone who likes alternative energy? Why do people care about EV's so much when they have ZERO effect on them? Most people have not even tried them before criticizing them and banishing them the deepest depths of hello.

My GT500 would only get about 170 miles of range on a full tank. I never, in over 20k miles, drove it from full to empty on any day.

I best most people cant recall a day they pulled out of their garage with a full tank and had to fill it up before returning.

EV drivers are car people too. Try one before being so critical.
None criticize your EV if it is paid out of your pocket instead of subsidized by the tax payers. Rich gets clean air, car and richer. Poor get poorer, dirtier air, pay more for gas from making electricity for your EV.
Apr 05, 2024 11:39 AM
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leeterbikeApr 05, 2024 11:39 AM
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Quote from ansonvs :
None criticize your EV if it is paid out of your pocket instead of subsidized by the tax payers. Rich gets clean air, car and richer. Poor get poorer, dirtier air, pay more for gas from making electricity for your EV.
I paid for mine out of pocket. Don't qualify for any tax incentives. People still complain about it. Complain about the batteries, range, government support for the vehicle type, I've even had people blame me for the poor electrical infrastructure in the city because "you're using too much grid power". I've have people tell me I'm a tree hugger, Biden supporter, and various other thing.

I have solar. Lots of it. That mainly charges my car.

I have solar that entirely charges a fleet of Ford lightning trucks.

I pay nearly 50% of my income in taxes.
I employ several people with well paying jobs.

I should get tax subsidies, I give the government 100's Of thousands of dollars all for them to let me pay them a small amount less later because I did what they said.

Trust me. It's not a good deal.
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Apr 05, 2024 11:46 AM
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keithjamApr 05, 2024 11:46 AM
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Don't get this car. Everyone who reviews it says it is terrible.
Apr 05, 2024 11:53 AM
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RUsum1Apr 05, 2024 11:53 AM
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Quote from simtimpson :
Electric cars aren't "green." The chemicals used in production, as well as the extreme inefficiency of electricity and battery storage is FAR more toxic to the environment than petrol vehicles. News flash, oil isn't a "fossil fuel." The climate alarmists are idiots. Electric vehicles are a fad, they only exist en masse because of dishonest propaganda and manipulative incentives.
If the climate alarmists are idiots, why do the oil industries themselves admit to the impact of their industry causing climate change for several decades and tried to cover it up until their own documents were released? At least think a little before spewing nonsense
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Apr 05, 2024 12:18 PM
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dave8686Apr 05, 2024 12:18 PM
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Happy thoughts, good intentions and misguided laws can't make EV's viable when they are not. I am not going to list the reasons why we are not ready. But know we are not. Let it happen. It will eventually. But it has to happen naturally.

In the meantime buy a hybrid. So many positives. Very few negatives.

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Apr 05, 2024 12:21 PM
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jimmtechApr 05, 2024 12:21 PM
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Quote from yowsa :
Hydrogen is so expensive now that it' costs $130 to fill for around 300 miles
That comes out to approx. $0.43/mi. With gas at $3.50/gal, my F150, getting 18mpg comes out to $0.22/mile.. (at least I can haul 4x8s in my longbed) lol
Apr 05, 2024 12:42 PM
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roro2014Apr 05, 2024 12:42 PM
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Quote from nadanunca :
You may want to look at the Hyundai Ioniq 6. Rated for 360 mile range on a 100% charge, and Hyundai's been doing $7,500 cashback to offset the ineligibility for federal credits. And if you're really lucky, your state won't charge sales tax—NJ didn't for mine.
I got one of these on the lease, love it! Best car I've owned for far! It feels like my old BMW I used to have long time ago. Smooth and quiet.
Apr 05, 2024 01:04 PM
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chrisaf69Apr 05, 2024 01:04 PM
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Why is the range so low? EVs, although still "new" have been around for a minute and this range is laughable on a smaller car.
Apr 05, 2024 01:06 PM
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RedmontApr 05, 2024 01:06 PM
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Quote from whyzir :
There was no green deal passed, what passed into law was the IRA, that wasnt shoved down anyones throats, it only incentivized certain green products because nobody is paying for the envirinmental damage fossil fuels have done. Anyone can still buy gas cars. If you're whining about anything shoved down throats, whine about the taxpayer subsidies that have existed for decades for the fossil fuel industry, including funding the misinformation echo chambers you've been swimming in.
talk about misinformation— look at the stock prices of EV car makers — even Tesla is way down but most EV companies like Riven are down 90+% . NO ONE wants these cars to serve as their only or principal vehicle. It's just rich virtue signalers who want EV cars as a weekend car.
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Apr 05, 2024 01:28 PM
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Blade2000Apr 05, 2024 01:28 PM
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The EV craze is dying and manufacturers are starting to scramble!
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Apr 05, 2024 01:29 PM
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KnightshadeApr 05, 2024 01:29 PM
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Quote from YawningTears :
If you read the study you'd know there are various different tires made of different compounds, some of which wear faster than others.
Again their headline "1000x worse!" number is based on wearing out 100% of the tread in just over 1300 miles.

Which isn't real life driving on any street tire regardless of vehicle it's on. Not by a factor of 20-40x.



Quote from YawningTears :
. YOU CAN'T GET AWAY FROM THE ADDED WEIGHT AND THE EXTRA WEAR EQUALING MORE EMISSIONS.
Again you're pretending there's some "magic" EV tires that wear out far worse (you've now dropped form 1000x fearmongering to only 400x fear mongering) than gasoline car tires.

This is factually nonsensical.


My previous gas car was a Lexus IS350. Curb weight is 3748 lbs.

My current EV, a Tesla Model 3, which is comparable in size, class, seating, etc... has a curb weight of 3862.

That's barely 100 lbs difference on a near 4000 lbs vehicle.

That is not significant in terms of tire wear differences.

Indeed- I got about 25k miles out of the OEM tires on both (and BOTH had Michelin MXM4 OEM tires too....so apples to apples).

I've since replaced them with Pilot Sport A/S4s and based on tread readings so far expect to get ~50k miles out of those.... Same as on a comparable gas car.

Indeed if you look at the source study in the link I provided debunking your nonsense they also cite to a taxi company that uses ICE and EVs-- which also confirms in comparable-class vehicles the difference in tire wear is not significant.


So again- the gas car ends up far worse for emissions over its lifetime overall than the EV does and the tire thing is a nonsense red herring.


More hilarious- the "particular matter" fearmongering ALSO brings up brake pads... a thing gas cars burn through far more often because EVs mostly rely on regenerative braking, not physical braking.

The difference THERE is much greater than it is in any tire wear difference.



Quote from YawningTears :
well I'm glad the truth came out.
Me too, it just wasn't from you Smilie



Quote from YawningTears :
Yes you can swap tires or modify, but stock or what has been engineered is different.
It absolutely is not

Again I had Michelin MXM4s on BOTH my ICE Lexus and my Tesla EV.

There's no magic "wears out multiple times faster" EV tire compound for which you've given any evidence of any kind other than TRUST ME BRO.



Quote from YawningTears :
Tires do have a weight rating, you can run over that weight, good luck.
That's great- but as pointed out- the comparable cars were nearly identical in weight


You realize when you add batteries and a small electric motor you remove a big engine block and transmission right?

Certainly you CAN find outlier stupid heavy EVs-- the GM Hummer is a great example.... but those represent like 0.01% of all EV sales ever.


Quote from YawningTears :
This isn't an apples to apples comparison in the slightest. You have way worse environmental impacts during the sourcing
Which is why it's so stupid to ONLY look at the sourcing!

You look at the total lifecycle of the vehicle cradle to grave.

And you find EVs are much much cleaner than ICE vehicles when you do so- as cited in a ton of studies.


Quote from YawningTears :
and way worse with with the disposal.
Grossly false.

Dead ICE cars just go 100% into a junk yard and rot.

EV batteries will be recycled almost entirely due to the valuable, reusable, materials in them.


https://www.tesla.com/support/sus...-recycling
Quote from Tesla :
What happens to Tesla battery packs once they reach their end of life?

Unlike fossil fuels, which release harmful emissions into the atmosphere that are not recovered for reuse, materials in a Tesla lithium-ion battery are recoverable and recyclable...
...None of our scrapped lithium-ion batteries go to landfilling, and 100% are recycled.


Quote from YawningTears :
Recycled? Guess you don't know about the graveyards

What are you talking about, please link to a petroleum slave operation.
Here's one example:

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energ...pping.html

Quote :
the offshore oil and gas industry isn't immune to modern-day slavery—as evidenced by the detention of a BP-charted offshore oil supply vessel in Scotland, which was found to have a group of unpaid workers on its crew.

I don't suggest that's industry-wide-- but then neither is slavery to make EVs.


Quote from YawningTears :
You're just lying now, Tesla only recently got into LFP, meaning MOST on the road are not:

I mean, ONE of us is lying- but it ain't me.

Tesla began using LFPs in China (by far their largest output factory) in 2020. They began using them in the US in late 2021. They're used in all standard range 3/Y, which are the majority of all sales (being the least expensive models that's not surprising).

Tesla last month produced their 6 millionth car total

It's 1 millionth was March 2020.

Meaning 5 out of every 6 Teslas ever made were made in the last 5 years.

And the majority of THOSE used LFP cells.

Tesla had mentioned nearly half of cars produced were already LFP by Q1 2022, and that % has only gone UP in the last 2 years.

Math dude- try it sometime!



Quote from chrisaf69 :
Why is the range so low? EVs, although still "new" have been around for a minute and this range is laughable on a smaller car.

because this is based on Toyota "technology" which is 10 years behind the leaders in the EV space



Quote from Steelgaze :
Assuming EVs should be treated like a daily driver, I'll use a corolla as a stand in.
I've also driven pretty much every tesla, with doing long 10+ hour drives in X to draw from personal experience.

Why are you using a Corolla for a stand-in for an SUV that can seat 7 adults? Confused

Use a Suburban, or a mini-van, and I suspect you math changes a lot in favor of the EV.

(plus most folks are home charging a TON cheaper than the 45c figure you cite--- average in the US for home electricity is ~17 cents per kwh normally... and often lower with ToU plans)



Quote from DealEngineer :
Where does everyone get their EV serviced? Respective OEM dealerships?
Tesla will send someone to your house for anything that doesn't require a lift.

Also note well engineered EVs require almost 0 routine maintenance compared to gas cars... no spark plugs or wires to change, no oil, coolant, or transmission fluid to change, etc...

Pretty much the only scheduled stuff is change the cabin air filter every 2-3 years depending on type, test (and replace if needed) brake fluid every 4 years, and replace A/C dessicant bag every 3-8 years depending on model.


Anything else is just as-needed for any-type-of-car wear items- tire rotation/change, wiper blade change, etc. You won't even need to change brake pads/rotors as they rarely use the friction brakes- there's folks routinely getting 150-200k on the original brakes which is longer than most own a car.


NOTE: Check the specific EV you're looking at-- some are worse on this stuff- some still force fluid changes to try and keep their dealers in business
Last edited by Knightshade April 5, 2024 at 07:47 AM.
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komondorApr 05, 2024 01:32 PM
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Quote from shmuey :
Spoken like a man who has literally zero idea how this technology works.
Pictured here is a Nio battery swapping station in Haikou, Hainan province, China, on May 9, 2023.
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I guess that would be you since it is available now?
Also without buying from companies that have a lot to lose with the reduction of Gas powered cars it will be much slower. The biggest issue with EVs is the people that drive the least lik people that live in a city or rent have no place to charge.

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Apr 05, 2024 01:42 PM
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SeanB6608Apr 05, 2024 01:42 PM
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Quote from jneset :
Monthly rate
Progressive had no idea what the vin or model was so quoted thru LM and $225/mo (pay in full discount) $500 deds for just me and the wife who have 0 items on our records
You're leaving out a ton of information here. Where do you live? How old are you? How is your credit? All same questions for your spouse. What's your zip code? Own a home or rent a home? These are all things underwriting looks at when giving you an insurance policy. It's not only about your vehicle.

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