Participating Subaru Dealerships [
dealership locator] have
2023 Subaru Solterra Electric Compact SUV (Premium Trim, code PED-11) available to
Lease at
$241/month for
36 months (total $8,676) plus tax and license fee from participating dealerships w/ zero down for qualified buyers. Contact your local dealership(s) to verify if this offer is available in your area.
Thanks to community member
KhalidS8701 for finding this deal.
- Note: Offer and inventory availability may vary by location.
Features:
- All-wheel-drive electric crossover
- Seats five and carries 23.8 cubic feet of cargo behind its rear seats.
- Range: 228 miles
- 0-60mph in 6.5 seconds
- 8.3" of ground clearance
- Built on Toyota's e-TGNA global battery-electric vehicle platform
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Now through April 30, 2024 lease a new 2023 Solterra for $329/month on a 36-month lease (Premium trim, code PED-11). $329 due at lease signing. $0 security deposit.
Which is a freaking great deal for consumers
Model Y will be the same price as a RAV MSRP (pre dealer markups and fees) very soon.
I will recover my Solar Panel cost in 3.5 years. Beyond that I will drive for free and I will not have much home electricity cost. I know people who got a smaller PV system than me for over twice the cost that I paid because they did not know any better and just went with whoever showed up on their door. Since then I have educated and guided several of my friends into installing Solar PV systems and everyone who has an EV will recover in 4 to 5 years depending on their total miles driven.
AND NO, my use case is not an outlier by any means. With regards to your other bullet points (The mileage you state for a 7 seater SUV is clearly incorrrect) - the cost of gas in 2023 was about ~$4 on an average. The cost has just gone down in the last 3 to 6 months. The MPG of a gas car within the local roads is still about 25 mpg for a sedan. So definitely did not over or under estimate. My insurance for my Nissan Leaf is less than $200 every 6 months since the car is paid off and I only have liability coverage. So if you are talking about insuring a Ferrari for $2000 per year then we clearly are talking different languages here. And lastly, my Leaf gives me 5 to 5.2 miles/kwh in spring and fall with milder weather vs 4.2 to 4.6 in summer/winter. I calculated an average of 4.7 miles/kwh, so even that part I got right.
The only part you got right was that I drive a lot and that is because I have many local chores, drop offs, pickups and daily commute. So for an average person that drives less one can reduce the savings from $2500 to $1800 per year, still considerable.
I do save about $850/year driving 12k miles in a Tesla Model Y over a comparable crossover (assuming 30 mpg) - though insurance costs $2k a year so all in all, it's perhaps break even.
I will recover my Solar Panel cost in 3.5 years. Beyond that I will drive for free and I will not have much home electricity cost. I know people who got a smaller PV system than me for over twice the cost that I paid because they did not know any better and just went with whoever showed up on their door. Since then I have educated and guided several of my friends into installing Solar PV systems and everyone who has an EV will recover in 4 to 5 years depending on their total miles driven.
AND NO, my use case is not an outlier by any means. With regards to your other bullet points (The mileage you state for a 7 seater SUV is clearly incorrrect) - the cost of gas in 2023 was about ~$4 on an average. The cost has just gone down in the last 3 to 6 months. The MPG of a gas car within the local roads is still about 25 mpg for a sedan. So definitely did not over or under estimate. My insurance for my Nissan Leaf is less than $200 every 6 months since the car is paid off and I only have liability coverage. So if you are talking about insuring a Ferrari for $2000 per year then we clearly are talking different languages here. And lastly, my Leaf gives me 5 to 5.2 miles/kwh in spring and fall with milder weather vs 4.2 to 4.6 in summer/winter. I calculated an average of 4.7 miles/kwh, so even that part I got right.
The only part you got right was that I drive a lot and that is because I have many local chores, drop offs, pickups and daily commute. So for an average person that drives less one can reduce the savings from $2500 to $1800 per year, still considerable.
I've previously said that typical MPG for the pilot, which is an EXL AWD, is usually 25-26 in the winter (winter gas blend) and more like 28 in the summer but I've gotten 30 on it by driving more conservatively. Regardless I never mentioned my personal vehicle in context so it's irrelevant Your 7 seater SUV is just horrible efficiency-wise. Is it ancient or is it some V8 that's a horrible comparison for the vast majority of people?
National average price of gas in 2023 was $3.52 [eia.gov], not $4, btw.
The average MPG of ALL CARS SOLD in 2023 was ~ 25, but that's ALL new cars. You can't use "vehicles on the road" either because your comparison case is a new EV. I mentioned the numbers for the Corolla, many models of comparable size will be similar.
Then you go on to quote your insurance rate - $400/yr, which I can't even fathom how you get there, no state in the nation [marketwatch.com] has numbers that low, unless it's liability only - which you're absolutely not going to buy for a brand new car, and if it has a loan you're certainly not eliminating collision.
Then you confuse when I say "$2000 in insurance, reg and taxes" - that's me, as I said, but that number is probably low. Insurance itself is probably closer to $1500, and we pay property tax on cars, that's probably around $1000/yr. Registration is every 2 years for $122.
The core issue is you speak of anecdotes, and your anecdotes aren't any more valid than mine or the next person's, which is why I state a couple things - what makes sense for me, and then country averages. As the SD saying goes, YMMV, pun intended.
It's almost as if you're confused on how to make honest comparisons. Either that or you're being purposefully obtuse.
I do save about $850/year driving 12k miles in a Tesla Model Y over a comparable crossover (assuming 30 mpg) - though insurance costs $2k a year so all in all, it's perhaps break even.
For the average HH 10 years is probably a good rule of thumb. That's what ours would have been if you just account for purchase price and average electricity usage. That does not include any out of warranty solar costs, though.
Here in CT we have RRES which means you cannot exceed 105% of trailing 12 months usage, so it's not like you can have just some massive solar installation and be pumping kwh out to the grid. And, they actually look up your electricity bills so it's not like you can fudge it. That said, production numbers are *estimates* and likely padded, so IOW systems will probably overperform anyway, and it's not like they come back and penalize you if you DO exceed 105%.
As I mentioned, I looked into an EV to use up that anticipated overproduction of electricity (thinking ahead) and the numbers just plain are not there, even if a large SUV EV was even on the market.
Once you have the numbers then you can legitimately post whatever you want.
Holy crap you weren't joking.
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Please share a particular dealership info if the $241/mo offer is still valid.
Thanks.
quite surprised at so much discussion
for a car/deal that isnt even available
but carry on
1% of the posts are about the actual deal (of which there apparently isn't one this time), the other 99% is mostly pointless debating and personal attacks. In other words, like every other hybrid car thread on SD.
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I do save about $850/year driving 12k miles in a Tesla Model Y over a comparable crossover (assuming 30 mpg) - though insurance costs $2k a year so all in all, it's perhaps break even.
With the EV send replacing my daily commute and local driving, my break even period for the PV Solar system went down to 3.5 years only.
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