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16TB Seagate Exos X18 Enterprise HDD 3.5" SATA 7200RPM, 256-Cache $225 + Free Shipping

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AAAwave [aaawave.com] has Seagate Exos X18 16TB Enterprise HDD CMR Hyperscale 3.5" SATA 256-Cache 7200RPM (ST16000NM000J) for $268.99 - $44 = $224.99. Shipping is free.

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  • SATA 6.0Gb/s
  • 5-Year Seagate Warranty
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AAAwave [aaawave.com] has Seagate Exos X18 16TB Enterprise HDD CMR Hyperscale 3.5" SATA 256-Cache 7200RPM (ST16000NM000J) for $268.99 - $44 = $224.99. Shipping is free.

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Apr 08, 2024 08:59 PM
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sixtyfpsApr 08, 2024 08:59 PM
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Have had multiple of these in my Unraid setup for years. No complaints.

No idea about reliability of this retailer, but since there is a warranty they seem to be an authorized seller. I bought my drives as refurbs thru ServerPartDeals.
Last edited by sixtyfps April 8, 2024 at 02:01 PM.
Apr 09, 2024 07:57 AM
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allenXYZApr 09, 2024 07:57 AM
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Is this good for NAS? If so, Thene $14/TB is a very good price.
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Apr 09, 2024 03:55 PM
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elefante72Apr 09, 2024 03:55 PM
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Quote from allenXYZ :
Is this good for NAS? If so, Thene $14/TB is a very good price.
These are datacenter drives, so yes they are meant for 100% duty and have appropriate vibration sensors. Cant speak to retailer.

Apr 09, 2024 04:48 PM
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maz021Apr 09, 2024 04:48 PM
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How many prons can it hold? Thanks.
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Apr 09, 2024 04:57 PM
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armedmetallicaApr 09, 2024 04:57 PM
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Quote from maz021 :
How many prons can it hold? Thanks.
Yes, it can.
Apr 09, 2024 05:43 PM
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HellGundamApr 09, 2024 05:43 PM
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Don't see AAAwave on seagate site for authorized dealers
Apr 09, 2024 10:09 PM
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FastnetShannonApr 09, 2024 10:09 PM
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FWIW, I've found these to be particularly loud drives. After putting 4 of them in my Synology, I ended up having to move the NAS out of my home office. On the plus side, reliability seems fine after about 3.5 years.

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Apr 10, 2024 02:05 AM
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MerrySparrow9102Apr 10, 2024 02:05 AM
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Quote from elefante72 :
These are datacenter drives, so yes they are meant for 100% duty and have appropriate vibration sensors. Cant speak to retailer.
Since they're datacenter drives do you need "special" software to interact with it? I don't have a server or any NAS, but I've heard some datacenter drives aren't the easiest to work with.
Apr 10, 2024 02:45 AM
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elefante72Apr 10, 2024 02:45 AM
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Quote from MerrySparrow9102 :
Since they're datacenter drives do you need "special" software to interact with it? I don't have a server or any NAS, but I've heard some datacenter drives aren't the easiest to work with.
They are SATA drives so no. Some older PC may not have the appropriate PSU

Info: https://www.tomshardware.com/news...36146.html
Apr 10, 2024 02:51 AM
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elefante72Apr 10, 2024 02:51 AM
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Quote from ferg2k :
FWIW, I've found these to be particularly loud drives. After putting 4 of them in my Synology, I ended up having to move the NAS out of my home office. On the plus side, reliability seems fine after about 3.5 years.
Good point. Any of the 7200RPM datacenter drives will be louder because they were designed for maximum performance and their destaging algorithms can be aggressive (which is good). Seagate do seem to have a louder/irritating "click" than Toshiba or WD/HGST but not by much. Desktop drives will be quieter or even some of the lower spec Reds because they spin slower and the head movement is not as aggressive.

If multiple drives clicking bothers you these drives will def get your attention.



Apr 10, 2024 06:42 AM
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drsgrinchApr 10, 2024 06:42 AM
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Really went down the rabbit hole here, but here it is. All proof and references are below. Done quite a lot of research. Please rep if found useful.

Warranty might be hard to claim bc they aren't a authorized reseller. Seagate has refurb units with a guaranteed 2 year warranty you can trust because you're getting them direct for about 15 bucks cheaper a drive.

Personally, since you have to pay shipping both ways, I'm not sure it's worth it. You're talking about 40 to 60 bucks for combined shipping both ways and the hassle of dealing with the warranty. I'd rather just view the drives as disposable and roll the dice with even cheaper refurb drives from reputable stores. I've done this for years and of you pick the right stores, you can really hedge your bets.

Especially when you're talking enterprise drives. These things are designed to handle the abuse and hours of data centers. My guess you're not going to be as hard on them as data centers, so that has to improve the odds/longevity.

Here is the drives I'd buy. 120k purchases. Store was on there since 2005. 9k feedback. Huge stock.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/304194684486

Here is some advice / info I found.

Warranty:

You can verify serial numbers / warranty here.:
https://www.seagate.com/support/w...lacements/

Common counterfeit techniques here:

I didn't know stripping the screws would void the warranty, lol. Crazy.

https://www.seagate.com/support/w...checklist/

Do you need to buy from an authorized reseller for warranty?

Yes. They aren't on the list.

https://www.seagate.com/support/w...-warranty/

Worth getting new?

Your choice. Can't verify they are new because unsure of seller. But, you can buy refurb directly from Seagate on ebay for 209.

They offer 2 year warranty and you know it's legit. Yes, not 5 years, but still unsure of seller and if the warranty would even be honored.

If you're worried about warranty, you can buy an additional 2 years from all state from ebay for 18,which gets you to about the same price.

Tbh, tech depreciates quickly, so after 2/4 years, what is replacement cost going to be? Potentially new with another warranty? How much more to upgrade to a larger drive?

You still have shipping costs and such when doing warranties. 50+ for round trip.

Ebay link:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/226051716791


Vetting the store:

AAA seems to be the same company as platinum micro. Thanks to a reddit post

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc...aawavecom/

They have the same addresses and have two stores.This already seems odd to me. I don't trust it. They have identical inventory in stock numbers as well.
Last edited by nhbrsx April 10, 2024 at 09:17 PM.
Apr 10, 2024 09:14 AM
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T.B.ftwApr 10, 2024 09:14 AM
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Quote from drsgrinch :
Really went down the rabbit hole here, but here it is. All proof and references are below. Done quite a lot of research. Please rep if found useful.

Warranty might be hard to claim bc they aren't a authorized reseller. Seagate has refurb units with a guaranteed 2 year warranty you can trust because you're getting them direct for about 15 bucks cheaper a drive.

Personally, since you have to pay shipping both ways, I'm not sure it's worth it. You're talking about 40 to 60 bucks for combined shipping both ways and the hassle of dealing with the warranty. I'd rather just view the drives as disposable and roll the dice with even cheaper refurb drives from reputable stores. I've done this for years and of you pick the right stores, you can really hedge your bets.

Especially when you're talking enterprise drives. These things are designed to handle the abuse and hours of data centers. My guess you're not going to be as hard on them as data centers, so that has to improve the odds/longevity.

Here is the drives I'd buy. 120k purchases. Store was on there since 2005. 9k feedback. Huge stock.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/304194684486

Here is some advice / info I found.

Warranty:

You can verify serial numbers / warranty here.:
https://www.seagate.com/support/w...lacements/ [seagate.com]

Common counterfeit techniques here:

I didn't know stripping the screws would void the warranty, lol. Crazy.

https://www.seagate.com/support/w...checklist/ [seagate.com]

Do you need to buy from an authorized reseller for warranty?

Yes. They aren't on the list.

https://www.seagate.com/support/w...-warranty/ [seagate.com]

Worth getting new?

Your choice. Can't verify they are new because unsure of seller. But, you can buy refurb directly from Seagate on ebay for 209.

They offer 2 year warranty and you know it's legit. Yes, not 5 years, but still unsure of seller and if the warranty would even be honored.

If you're worried about warranty, you can buy an additional 2 years from all state from ebay for 18,which gets you to about the same price.

Tbh, tech depreciates quickly, so after 2/4 years, what is replacement cost going to be? Potentially new with another warranty? How much more to upgrade to a larger drive?

You still have shipping costs and such when doing warranties. 50+ for round trip.

Ebay link:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/226051716791


Vetting the store:

AAA seems to be the same company as platinum micro. Thanks to a reddit post

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc...aawavecom/ [reddit.com]

They have the same addresses and have two stores.This already seems odd to me. I don't trust it. They have identical inventory in stock numbers as well.
Graet investigative work, Thank you!
Last edited by nhbrsx April 10, 2024 at 09:17 PM.
Apr 10, 2024 02:01 PM
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angelmaldito23Apr 10, 2024 02:01 PM
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Quote from sixtyfps :
Have had multiple of these in my Unraid setup for years. No complaints.

No idea about reliability of this retailer, but since there is a warranty they seem to be an authorized seller. I bought my drives as refurbs thru ServerPartDeals.
i use goharddrive and they are amazing next to the other one DBSKY both are fantastic refurbished rebranded companies i made a claim through both and they both replaced in less than 3 days i had the replacement.
Apr 10, 2024 05:46 PM
111 Posts
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WasabiNMEApr 10, 2024 05:46 PM
111 Posts
Quote from drsgrinch :
Really went down the rabbit hole here, but here it is. All proof and references are below. Done quite a lot of research. Please rep if found useful.

Warranty might be hard to claim bc they aren't a authorized reseller. Seagate has refurb units with a guaranteed 2 year warranty you can trust because you're getting them direct for about 15 bucks cheaper a drive.

Personally, since you have to pay shipping both ways, I'm not sure it's worth it. You're talking about 40 to 60 bucks for combined shipping both ways and the hassle of dealing with the warranty. I'd rather just view the drives as disposable and roll the dice with even cheaper refurb drives from reputable stores. I've done this for years and of you pick the right stores, you can really hedge your bets.

Especially when you're talking enterprise drives. These things are designed to handle the abuse and hours of data centers. My guess you're not going to be as hard on them as data centers, so that has to improve the odds/longevity.

Here is the drives I'd buy. 120k purchases. Store was on there since 2005. 9k feedback. Huge stock.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/304194684486

Here is some advice / info I found.

Warranty:

You can verify serial numbers / warranty here.:
https://www.seagate.com/support/w...lacements/ [seagate.com]

Common counterfeit techniques here:

I didn't know stripping the screws would void the warranty, lol. Crazy.

https://www.seagate.com/support/w...checklist/ [seagate.com]

Do you need to buy from an authorized reseller for warranty?

Yes. They aren't on the list.

https://www.seagate.com/support/w...-warranty/ [seagate.com]

Worth getting new?

Your choice. Can't verify they are new because unsure of seller. But, you can buy refurb directly from Seagate on ebay for 209.

They offer 2 year warranty and you know it's legit. Yes, not 5 years, but still unsure of seller and if the warranty would even be honored.

If you're worried about warranty, you can buy an additional 2 years from all state from ebay for 18,which gets you to about the same price.

Tbh, tech depreciates quickly, so after 2/4 years, what is replacement cost going to be? Potentially new with another warranty? How much more to upgrade to a larger drive?

You still have shipping costs and such when doing warranties. 50+ for round trip.

Ebay link:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/226051716791


Vetting the store:

AAA seems to be the same company as platinum micro. Thanks to a reddit post

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc...aawavecom/ [reddit.com]

They have the same addresses and have two stores.This already seems odd to me. I don't trust it. They have identical inventory in stock numbers as well.
The drive you have listed from Serverpartdeals.com on eBay is cheaper directly from the seller, and they don't charge tax on their website.

https://serverpartdeals.com/colle...hard-drive
Last edited by nhbrsx April 10, 2024 at 09:18 PM.

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Apr 10, 2024 07:48 PM
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rickstaman05Apr 10, 2024 07:48 PM
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Quote from WasabiNME :
The drive you have listed from Serverpartdeals.com on eBay is cheaper directly from the seller, and they don't charge tax on their website.

https://serverpartdeals.com/colle...hard-drive [serverpartdeals.com]
LINCOLN5 seems to give a $5 extra discount as well.

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