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BuyRefurbishedUS via eBay [ebay.com] has
(Certified Refurbished) 1TB Lenovo Legion Go 8.8" Handheld Gaming System on sale for $649.99 - 9% off automatically applied at checkout =
$591.49. Shipping is free.
Note: Includes
additional 2 Year Warranty [ebay.com]
Product Specs:
- AMD Ryzen Z1 Extreme Processing Unit
- 8.8" 1440x1600 (2K) 144Hz WQXGA IPS LCD Display
- 1TB Solid State Drive SSD
- AMD Radeon RDNA 3 Graphics Processing Unit
- 16GB LPDDR5X System Memory/RAM
- WiFi w/ Bluetooth
- 2x 2W Integrated Speakers
- Battery Powered USB Type-C/2-USB Port
- Windows Compatible Platform
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I keep hearing about the SD card issue on the Ally, however I plan to just add more storage via SSD with either of these.
Power? 1080 is fine for quality, I like that both use full windows.
I plan to keep them plugged up for playing, just don't feel like being at a desk or laptop.
Having said that, what would be the real pros/cons? I'm not seeing a huge difference.
Before plopping down 500+, I strongly suggest you watch at least 5+ comparison videos.
Interesting if true for the 737; I have the 747 and get another 2 hrs with it plugged in running in performance mode.
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Overall my experience with it so far has been... positive but reserved. First of all, this thing is HUGE. If you've held a Switch before, this is noticeably bigger than that. it's not particularly comfortable to hold in your hands and game for long periods of time. Luckily the kickstand is good because you're gonna want to use it all the time, even if you're lounging on the couch with this thing on your lap.
My specific use case for it is because I wanted it to replace my travel laptop - I do freelance software development and I knew I could put Linux on it for work and also take advantage of the two USB 4 ports to run it with external monitors, keyboard/mouse. Certainly I was very close to saying "why not just buy a laptop" but I reasoned that when I'm travelling I can use it as a gaming device also.
With regards to gaming, the experience has been really positive. I've been really impressed by the beautiful screen and the buttery smooth performance in a lot of rather demanding games. I also have Geforce Now which allows me to run anything I want on this without worrying too much about it overheating or storage space.
However, it runs Windows by default and the experience is actually bad. Like, painfully bad. Sure, it's just a Windows PC so it should be familiar to the average consumer, but you're constantly getting yourself stuck in situations where you need to go grab an external mouse and keyboard to get yourself "un stuck" because something or another isn't working right and you can't get out of it by mashing all the buttons on the controller.
Windows gives you the freedom to play any PC game, but the tradeoff is that you have to deal with a clunky "tablet-like" Windows with the limited inputs of the controller buttons and the touchpad. They are making slow improvements to their built-in software, to their credit (an update that came out a few days ago added the ability to remap all their buttons, finally), but i was left frustrated with their "Lenovo Space" which permanently occupies two of the buttons on your controllers and is essentially a giant ad with a bunch of confusing menus and odd UI.
I was actually on the verge of returning it and then I threw Bazzite Linux on it and oh man, it's like a whole new machine that I absolutely love now. Bazzite out of the box ran flawlessly and put me into "SteamDeck" mode which perfectly replicates the experience on an actual SteamDeck. Once I switched to this OS, I realized there was almost no chance I would ever go back to the Windows handheld experience.
It wasn't overly complicated to install Bazzite onto this machine and get it up and running, but you'll need a USB-C dock and a flash drive and you'll need to be willing to blow away your Windows install or else know what you're doing in order to shrink the partitions and get it to dual boot. I'm very technically proficient and I've installed Linux on dozens of machines and I still spent a few hours tinkering with it to get everything working the way I wanted it to.
Overall, I'm happy with the purchase but I can't imagine recommending one to a non-technical friend. If you come from an Xbox, Nintendo, or Playstation world you're going to be pretty frustrated with how non-intuitive everything is and how much tinkering there is to get to gaming. You need to install all sorts of launchers and apps, type in a bunch of passwords, customize framerates and resolutions, it's just not a "hit a button and play" experience. If you're comparing it to something like a Nintendo Switch, the large clunky form factor also makes it less portable too, and you'd probably be better off just buying a Steam deck if you really want to play PC games and just have it work out of the box, inside their SteamOS.
But if you're willing to spend a lot of time tinkering with this thing and you have some technical abilities, you can get a really nice device with a beautiful 144hz screen, much better performance than a SteamDeck or Switch, and a versatile "media center/desktop" experience to boot. This thing has been amazing as an emulator too, although the screen is almost TOO big to comfortably play some old games.
Hope this rambling rant is helpful to at least one other person who was on the fence like I was.
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600 to me still feels high unless you plan on part timing this as a workstation pc
A USB Type-A plane outlet will only support 5v 3a charging (15W) and will not even charge the device.
If you're lucky enough to have some of the very new modern planes with USB-C ports, those could work. They are labeled 60w and in my testing my own 60w charger worked so you might be good. But I've only ever seen these on one flight (Airbus A321neo)
Hopefully more planes get these ports but for now I'd be carrying the 65w charger and looking for standard 110v outlets
Sending thoughts and prayers your way
A USB Type-A plane outlet will only support 5v 3a charging (15W) and will not even charge the device.
If you're lucky enough to have some of the very new modern planes with USB-C ports, those could work. They are labeled 60w and in my testing my own 60w charger worked so you might be good. But I've only ever seen these on one flight (Airbus A321neo)
Hopefully more planes get these ports but for now I'd be carrying the 65w charger and looking for standard 110v outlets
I was on a United flight on Friday that didn't even have ANY power at the seats but luckily my power brick was full so my Steam Deck kept rocking.
BTW, I loved your write up above. Regarding Windows on a handheld; what you stated has always been my fear of buying something like this or the Ally. The games might 'work' natively but Windows is....Windows full of Windows problems. You are trading off slightly more compatibility in games for the entire OS experience. To me the Steam Deck seems like the Goldilocks zone at the moment. Heck, MS is still trying to figure out the entire tablet interface and that has been going on for a decade plus. Perhaps they'll tackle handhelding gaming PC's by the year 2045
*Steam Remote play is a great way to get around games not working on Linux but does require a PC locally running the game and a strong wifi network to make it an enjoyable experience.
Apples and oranges would be discussing consoles, remote play devices like the Logitech G CLOUD, closed ecosystems handhelds such as the Switch, or emulation in general.
Apples and oranges would be discussing consoles, remote play devices like the Logitech G CLOUD, closed ecosystems handhelds such as the Switch, or emulation in general.
Indeed we are
To suggest this is an apples and oranges comparison is patently absurd. It's nothing more than a bad faith comment.
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To suggest this is an apples and oranges comparison is patently absurd. It's nothing more than a bad faith comment.