The n100 is a very capable chip for its efficiency.
Weak also implies low power consumption. I'm planning to use this to run a few services (Proxmox as OS, Uptime Kuma, Ntfy, Wireguard) as a server in my networking closet and the price couldn't be beat, especially since I have some spare ram and ssd that was unused.
Was either this or was Raspberry Pi 5, and this ended up a better cost/performance for me after considering the extra accessories I'd need for the PI.
N100 Passmark score is 5555, that's basically an Intel 7th gen i5, minus 60w. For low powered mini machine it's not bad at all. Sure someone could buy a dell Optiplex ultra small form factor pc but they would be missing out on some modern features and considerably more power consumption
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In the end, it all depends on multiple factors, such as:
Total cost, regardless of price-per-performance
Minimum performance
Features (e.g. none of these tiny business PCs have USB4/thunderbolt)
Idle and/or max power usage
New vs old
Large/known vs small/unknown manufacturer
Business-grade vs consumer-grade
Hardware support (e.g. the 6500t Lenovo m700q has a BIOS update from 2022, 6+ years after its release)
Parts availability
there are plenty of N5095/N100/N200 around the $100-$150 mark. this one just has branding/support (MSI) versus Beelink/minisforum ($150 includes RAM/SSD) versus Aliexpress noname ($100+ includes RAM/SSD)
think about what you use RaspberryPi for (HomeAutomation, DVR recording, Plex, ~2-10W usage) - at this price range ($100-$150), these N100 chips offer much better CPU/expandability while also power efficient (5-20W)
obviously you can pay more, eg Asus miniPC series or Minisforum series. but is worth extra cost (see PN64 example below)
PN62S has thunderbolt but 8th-10th gen U chip, $150refurb to $350 new
PN64 has 12th gen CPU, $350+, i3 1200P with triple passmark score compared to N100 (but also triple the price). 8W idle, 50+W load https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvITfTPmvlg
What the hell are you talking about? Do you even know what you are saying? Ryzen can't handle 4k? Dude is straight up lying. Go watch some reviews.
OK, please share a pointer to one, so we can all learn. Be sure to include HDR.
It appears with some AMD iGPU (Ryzen 7900 in this example) it does provide a good experience, but it's still not as consistent as the Intel experience: https://forums.unraid.net/topic/1...yzen-7900/, nor as cheap as a basic N100.
There's a reason Plex says: *Note: Our hardware-transcoding system has technical support for many dedicated AMD graphics cards, but we haven't done official, full testing on those. Support for AMD GPUs is provided "as is" and your mileage may vary. It is recommended that you use Intel Quick Sync Video or a dedicated NVIDIA GPU." here: https://support.plex.tv/articles/...streaming/
OK, please share a pointer to one, so we can all learn. Be sure to include HDR.
It appears with some AMD iGPU (Ryzen 7900 in this example) it does provide a good experience, but it's still not as consistent as the Intel experience: https://forums.unraid.net/topic/1...yzen-7900/, nor as cheap as a basic N100.
There's a reason Plex says: *Note: Our hardware-transcoding system has technical support for many dedicated AMD graphics cards, but we haven't done official, full testing on those. Support for AMD GPUs is provided "as is" and your mileage may vary. It is recommended that you use Intel Quick Sync Video or a dedicated NVIDIA GPU." here: https://support.plex.tv/articles/...streaming/
Hate to burst your bubble but it's not just Ryzen 7000 that can hw transcode. My 5600G does a great job. Still, the n100 is an amazing chip for $100 and you just can't go wrong with it.
Hate to burst your bubble but it's not just Ryzen 7000 that can hw transcode. My 5600G does a great job. Still, the n100 is an amazing chip for $100 and you just can't go wrong with it.
No bubbles burst here; please read the posts; "it varies a lot" is probably the best way to summarize it.
And if Plex doesn't support it, most worryingly, there's no guarantee it will continue to work, even halfway as it does now.
If you're doing Plex, Intel iGPU is the best solution, bar none.
the OS included would definitely be a mistake, considering this barebones kit doesn't include RAM or HDD/SSD, so it would be impossible for OS to be included unless they give you a USB drive or a CD with the OS
Windows keys can be embedded in the motherboard firmware like what Windows does with any digital activation or can be easily done with UEFI flashing.
there are plenty of N5095/N100/N200 around the $100-$150 mark. this one just has branding/support (MSI) versus Beelink/minisforum ($150 includes RAM/SSD) versus Aliexpress noname ($100+ includes RAM/SSD)
think about what you use RaspberryPi for (HomeAutomation, DVR recording, Plex, ~2-10W usage) - at this price range ($100-$150), these N100 chips offer much better CPU/expandability while also power efficient (5-20W)
obviously you can pay more, eg Asus miniPC series or Minisforum series. but is worth extra cost (see PN64 example below)
PN62S has thunderbolt but 8th-10th gen U chip, $150refurb to $350 new
PN64 has 12th gen CPU, $350+, i3 1200P with triple passmark score compared to N100 (but also triple the price). 8W idle, 50+W load https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvITfTPmvlg
Thanks for info. The PN64 is nice, but where are you seeing it for only $350?
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Was either this or was Raspberry Pi 5, and this ended up a better cost/performance for me after considering the extra accessories I'd need for the PI.
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think about what you use RaspberryPi for (HomeAutomation, DVR recording, Plex, ~2-10W usage) - at this price range ($100-$150), these N100 chips offer much better CPU/expandability while also power efficient (5-20W)
obviously you can pay more, eg Asus miniPC series or Minisforum series. but is worth extra cost (see PN64 example below)
https://www.asus.com/displays-des...ll-series/
PN62S has thunderbolt but 8th-10th gen U chip, $150refurb to $350 new
PN64 has 12th gen CPU, $350+, i3 1200P with triple passmark score compared to N100 (but also triple the price). 8W idle, 50+W load
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvITfTP
It appears with some AMD iGPU (Ryzen 7900 in this example) it does provide a good experience, but it's still not as consistent as the Intel experience: https://forums.unraid.n
There's a reason Plex says: *Note: Our hardware-transcoding system has technical support for many dedicated AMD graphics cards, but we haven't done official, full testing on those. Support for AMD GPUs is provided "as is" and your mileage may vary. It is recommended that you use Intel Quick Sync Video or a dedicated NVIDIA GPU." here: https://support.plex.tv/articles/...streaming/
The basic problem is the HIGHLY varied experience; for many it just doesn't work: https://www.reddit.com/r/PleX/com...ding_is_a/.
It appears with some AMD iGPU (Ryzen 7900 in this example) it does provide a good experience, but it's still not as consistent as the Intel experience: https://forums.unraid.n
There's a reason Plex says: *Note: Our hardware-transcoding system has technical support for many dedicated AMD graphics cards, but we haven't done official, full testing on those. Support for AMD GPUs is provided "as is" and your mileage may vary. It is recommended that you use Intel Quick Sync Video or a dedicated NVIDIA GPU." here: https://support.plex.tv/articles/...streaming/
The basic problem is the HIGHLY varied experience; for many it just doesn't work: https://www.reddit.com/r/PleX/com...ding_is_a/.
Hate to burst your bubble but it's not just Ryzen 7000 that can hw transcode. My 5600G does a great job. Still, the n100 is an amazing chip for $100 and you just can't go wrong with it.
And if Plex doesn't support it, most worryingly, there's no guarantee it will continue to work, even halfway as it does now.
If you're doing Plex, Intel iGPU is the best solution, bar none.
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Windows keys can be embedded in the motherboard firmware like what Windows does with any digital activation or can be easily done with UEFI flashing.
… or including a card with the digits on it.
think about what you use RaspberryPi for (HomeAutomation, DVR recording, Plex, ~2-10W usage) - at this price range ($100-$150), these N100 chips offer much better CPU/expandability while also power efficient (5-20W)
obviously you can pay more, eg Asus miniPC series or Minisforum series. but is worth extra cost (see PN64 example below)
https://www.asus.com/displays-des...ll-series/
PN62S has thunderbolt but 8th-10th gen U chip, $150refurb to $350 new
PN64 has 12th gen CPU, $350+, i3 1200P with triple passmark score compared to N100 (but also triple the price). 8W idle, 50+W load
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvITfTP
Thanks for info. The PN64 is nice, but where are you seeing it for only $350?
Amazon has it for $360 and $369, one left each, different listings
Mitxpc.com has it for $350 (plus shipping?) . Unknown vendor
PN64-E1 has usb4/TB port, but more $
Mitxpc.com has it for $350 (plus shipping?) . Unknown vendor
PN64-E1 has usb4/TB port, but more $
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