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Seagate Store has their One Touch Hub drive external USB 3.0 drive in 8Tb size (only) on sale for $130+tax shipped free
vs. $200 retail or $170 on Amazon (where there are allegedly >250,000 reviews) or $213+$20 shipping on NewEgg
Seems like a decent deal on a well-reviewed external HDD if you're into that.
https://www.seagate.com/products/...touch-hub/
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Sorry if it's dumb question, I don't know a lot about the data storage side of things
Last summer I did buy WD 14TB enterprise drives (manufacture refurbs) for about 114 dollars, and no problems in my NAS and DAS.
All my 8TB WD reds that I have had for years and years still work in my NAS and TIVO.
$130 if you really really need them now but not a deal imo...
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Beware that some 5tb has power plug though so you gotta look it up which.
Last summer I did buy WD 14TB enterprise drives (manufacture refurbs) for about 114 dollars, and no problems in my NAS and DAS.
All my 8TB WD reds that I have had for years and years still work in my NAS and TIVO.
I'm not sure SMR is necessarily responsible for them dying, but a quick rabbit hole does confirm the earlier "treat them like burned DVDs" suggestion.
Really pretty neat - the read head doesn't need writes as big as the smallest write head makes, so they reposition the write head to write over some percentage of the height of previous writes.
This means they kludge smaller write marks, so to speak, but if you need to rewrite a section with these "overlapping shingles" you potentially gotta rewrite several layers of unrelated data bc the write head is too big to edit them in place.
Gives you lots more data with the same hardware, but with a much more complicated and eventually much slower write speed.
A very cool idea, but with that fairly obvious shortcoming.
https://blocksandfiles.
Really pretty neat - the read head doesn't need writes as big as the smallest write head makes, so they reposition the write head to write over some percentage of the height of previous writes.
This means they kludge smaller write marks, so to speak, but if you need to rewrite a section with these "overlapping shingles" you potentially gotta rewrite several layers of unrelated data bc the write head is too big to edit them in place.
Gives you lots more data with the same hardware, but with a much more complicated and eventually much slower write speed.
A very cool idea, but with that fairly obvious shortcoming.
https://blocksandfiles.
yeah, ... I'm not completely negative about SMR drives , and you hit it on the head, these SMR drives have to be used differently then other drives.
I have about 10 WD 5tb portables that are SMR drives. I do the once write policy on them and unplug them and put them in safe place as ONE of my backup methods. NOW, I can re-write on them but I use the very slow method of slow format that takes hours to complete, that puts all 0's in each sector, so it is like brand new drive. I DO NOT USE quick format that keeps files on drive and just delete the file names. ... the limitation of single write SMR would be acceptable in some situations. I would not buy this device in this thread.
Now I was able to buy the WD 5TB portables recerts directly from WD for about 55 dollars a while back, and no problems with them (with the way I use them). But for computer use, or NAS/DAS I would not use them if they are SMR. Everybody has to decide for their situation what type drive they need or want. And others can share how they use SMR drives . For computer use and NAS/DAS use, I don't use them!
The worse part is the Seagate Hub remapped the physical sectors of the drive inside. I found this out the hard way when the Hub suddenly died earlier this year. The drive inside still worked when I put it in a regular SATA enclosure but I couldn't read the data because the sectors were remapped. I ended up having to buy a replacement board from eBay and put the drive back in to recover the data.
$130 if you really really need them now but not a deal imo...
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