San Martin makes reasonable quality GMTs now using the same Seiko movement (and my experience the quality all around is a noticeable upgrade at a lower price point).
Case in point, GMT with Seiko NH34 automatic from San Martin:
Way better bracelet and clasp than the Seiko 5 GMTs (I have both the Black dial with applied and the white dial with printed indices). Swiss BGW9 lume on the Black and Swiss C3 on the White - lume is better if you get the applied indicies though
Phase 1: Quartz is for children, automatics are the only real watches.
Phase 2: Acquire a box or seven of automatics. Star to wear them. Suddenly one stops keeping good time, so you get it serviced. $120 dollars later you go 'at least its running well'. Then 3 or 4 more do the same thing after you schwack your wrist on a door jamb or your desk at work......."ummmm"....$600 later you say "Man I could have bought another watch with that money!".
Phase 3: Buy a quartz watch, you know..as a 'beater'...only for 'around the house wear'. Realize the watch is always on time, and when it stops...you replace the $8 dollar battery yourself. Find yourself wearing it out more and more because you don't have to constantly set it. The date may be wrong but nobody looks at that complication anyhow and you just grab and go it.
Final Phase: Acquire a case full of quartz watches because all watches are cool, they are just for looking at and nobody gives a rats @$$ about what movement it has, and you've learned that the people online who tell you to only buy autos............are n00bs
Great looking watch at $125.
Quartz movement, no one would pay 1.4k for this.
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Quick google search and Reddit writeups suggest this company's business model is high msrp with big markdowns. Seems scammy to me but I'm not an expert in watches
All you need to know is if it's got a sapphire crystal. It's decent, build quality and this is a Swiss movement and made in Switzerland. You just don't find that for $125 and I have probably seven or eight automatics and three or four high accuracy courses and your automatics. You need to keep unwinders all the time and it's nice. Just to have a couple of high accuracy courses. Just grab and go. Not worry about winding and setting
Quartz watch is a fancy name for battery watch. It's only a $5 electronic device. Gotta go mechanical, unless you go full electronic like an apple or Samsung watch. Hard pass on this. Your basically paying $120 for a case.
Wrong. The Rhonda gl852 quartz movement in this cost $40 alone. People are so ignorant on the site. The people espousing owning automatic Stone on them. I own several of them and they're a pain in the ass because the watch you want to wear unless you've got a winder for every watch is not wound. They're highly inaccurate. I mean they lose two to three seconds a day versus a high accuracy quartz which will lose one second a year. A high accuracy course I think is only allowed to lose 2 seconds a year. So the time you lose in a day or gain based on the inaccuracy of an automatic unless it's a cosc certified chronograph is going to be 2 to 3 seconds a day. So you're going to lose 10 to 15 minutes a year in accuracy with an automatic.
I bought glycine just when they were off loading all the subcombats before Invicta bought them.
This a hell of a deal for $125
I like my automatics but it's nice to have a high accuracy course with a sapphire. Crystal that you can actually read the dial easily. You're all against electronic watches. What about all your iWatches and etc. Come on people
I bought one of these (via Slickdeals) from Ashford about 2 months ago. Mine is a blue dial with bracelet. Paid about $127.
It's a great watch for the money. Swiss, sapphire, good finishing, nice bracelet. I'm not a GMT guy, but quite like how it's a small second dial.
For those concerned with the size: I have a 7.5 inch wrist and typically wear 40-42mm watches. This watch, even with the thin bezel, doesn't feel oversized to me. Please note that everything was new in box, with stickers, tags etc. But mine didn't come with extra links and probably wouldn't fit someone with much greater than a 7.5 inch wrist.
I don't get the quartz hate. It's nice to not wear a watch for a week, pick it up, and be ticking away on time.
Two firsts for me: This is my first butterfly clasp. It's not my preference but I'm getting used to it and the milling is good enough. And, it's my first pilots watch, so I'm not sure if this is typical or a manufacturing error, but the hour hand is beneath the minute hand. So when it's 12:00, you only see the minute hand. Kind of strange when you first see it.
As for the retail price: yes, no one is paying 1500 or whatever, or 500. But it's good at 200 and great for $125 if you're in the market for a pilot style watch.
Anyway, this was my first Ashford purchase and no complaints. New watch, smooth transaction.
I just wish the green dial was on sale when I bought mine, but I'm very pleased with the watch.
Phase 1: Quartz is for children, automatics are the only real watches.
Phase 2: Acquire a box or seven of automatics. Star to wear them. Suddenly one stops keeping good time, so you get it serviced. $120 dollars later you go 'at least its running well'. Then 3 or 4 more do the same thing after you schwack your wrist on a door jamb or your desk at work......."ummmm"....$600 later you say "Man I could have bought another watch with that money!".
Phase 3: Buy a quartz watch, you know..as a 'beater'...only for 'around the house wear'. Realize the watch is always on time, and when it stops...you replace the $8 dollar battery yourself. Find yourself wearing it out more and more because you don't have to constantly set it. The date may be wrong but nobody looks at that complication anyhow and you just grab and go it.
Final Phase: Acquire a case full of quartz watches because all watches are cool, they are just for looking at and nobody gives a rats @$$ about what movement it has, and you've learned that the people online who tell you to only buy autos............are n00bs
Great looking watch at $125.
For real.
Out of all the watches in my watch box, my Citizen Eco-drive Nighthawk has gotten the most compliments. Plus I never have to set its time.
Phase 1: Quartz is for children, automatics are the only real watches.
Phase 2: Acquire a box or seven of automatics. Star to wear them. Suddenly one stops keeping good time, so you get it serviced. $120 dollars later you go 'at least its running well'. Then 3 or 4 more do the same thing after you schwack your wrist on a door jamb or your desk at work......."ummmm"....$600 later you say "Man I could have bought another watch with that money!".
Phase 3: Buy a quartz watch, you know..as a 'beater'...only for 'around the house wear'. Realize the watch is always on time, and when it stops...you replace the $8 dollar battery yourself. Find yourself wearing it out more and more because you don't have to constantly set it. The date may be wrong but nobody looks at that complication anyhow and you just grab and go it.
Final Phase: Acquire a case full of quartz watches because all watches are cool, they are just for looking at and nobody gives a rats @$$ about what movement it has, and you've learned that the people online who tell you to only buy autos............are n00bs https://static.slickdealscdn.com/ima...lies/smile.gif
Quartz watch is a fancy name for battery watch. It's only a $5 electronic device. Gotta go mechanical, unless you go full electronic like an apple or Samsung watch. Hard pass on this. Your basically paying $120 for a case.
Wrong. There's more to various quartz watches than just the quartz module. This watch has a Ronda 4210.B movement. GMT function and 4 jewels. Cost for me as a watchmaker is around $50. So, no, you're not paying $120 for a case. A cheap plastic PC11 movement is around $10.
Phase 1: Quartz is for children, automatics are the only real watches.
Phase 2: Acquire a box or seven of automatics. Star to wear them. Suddenly one stops keeping good time, so you get it serviced. $120 dollars later you go 'at least its running well'. Then 3 or 4 more do the same thing after you schwack your wrist on a door jamb or your desk at work......."ummmm"....$600 later you say "Man I could have bought another watch with that money!".
Phase 3: Buy a quartz watch, you know..as a 'beater'...only for 'around the house wear'. Realize the watch is always on time, and when it stops...you replace the $8 dollar battery yourself. Find yourself wearing it out more and more because you don't have to constantly set it. The date may be wrong but nobody looks at that complication anyhow and you just grab and go it.
Final Phase: Acquire a case full of quartz watches because all watches are cool, they are just for looking at and nobody gives a rats @$$ about what movement it has, and you've learned that the people online who tell you to only buy autos............are n00bs https://static.slickdealscdn.com/ima...lies/smile.gif
Great looking watch at $125.
I'll second that. Any watch that costs more than, say, $300 is first and foremost jewelry.
The BEST timekeepers are Quartz, this is indisputable. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. But each type has it's place depending on what you value.
The biggest problem I have with quartz is that they are so affordable, I continue to add to an almost embarrassingly large collection.
Quartz watch is a fancy name for battery watch. It's only a $5 electronic device. Gotta go mechanical, unless you go full electronic like an apple or Samsung watch. Hard pass on this. Your basically paying $120 for a case.
I own this watch. it is really nice and well worth $125 IMO. Dual time is good for me as i travel out of country a lot. I have both mechanical/auto and quartz watches. As an engineer, I like the mechanical aspect. the whole "being one with your watch" thing. I totally get it and prefer that most of the time. But to say auto is the only way to go is a ridiculous statement. i specifically picked up my eco drive today because i was running late and didn't feel like setting the watch. both can exist in your watch box.
couple comments...
the link goes to a dual time watch. Not a GMT watch. i think the dual time is more useful for me because it is easier to read at a glance.
the leather strap is really nice at this price. quick change strap so you can swap out easily. I have the one with the blue face and works well with the brown, black or even grey straps.
would have liked to have raised indices. lume is decent.
overall seems to be built well. it is swiss made for what that means anymore. for a dual time watch with this kind of build, $125 is absolutely worth it.
Phase 1: Quartz is for children, automatics are the only real watches.
Phase 2: Acquire a box or seven of automatics. Star to wear them. Suddenly one stops keeping good time, so you get it serviced. $120 dollars later you go 'at least its running well'. Then 3 or 4 more do the same thing after you schwack your wrist on a door jamb or your desk at work......."ummmm"....$600 later you say "Man I could have bought another watch with that money!".
Phase 3: Buy a quartz watch, you know..as a 'beater'...only for 'around the house wear'. Realize the watch is always on time, and when it stops...you replace the $8 dollar battery yourself. Find yourself wearing it out more and more because you don't have to constantly set it. The date may be wrong but nobody looks at that complication anyhow and you just grab and go it.
Final Phase: Acquire a case full of quartz watches because all watches are cool, they are just for looking at and nobody gives a rats @$$ about what movement it has, and you've learned that the people online who tell you to only buy autos............are n00bs https://static.slickdealscdn.com/ima...lies/smile.gif
Great looking watch at $125.
Buy what you like, like what you buy. Wear it and enjoy. Don't worry about what anyone else thinks. People buy watches for many reasons. People collect watches for many reasons. People wear watches for many reasons. Very rarely, if ever, does a watch deal show up on this site that could be considered an investment. Very rarely, if ever, does a watch deal show up on this site that can be flipped for a reasonable profit. But... there are always deals on nice watches on this site.
The only watch I would 100% suggest not to buy are counterfeit/replicas. Those are bad mojo and a waste of hard earned $. Just buy a homage instead. Even a $25 Chinese homage is better than any counterfeit/replica watch.
The most important part about buying/wearing watches is to have fun and enjoy them for what ever reason you choose.
Phase 1: Quartz is for children, automatics are the only real watches.
Phase 2: Acquire a box or seven of automatics. Star to wear them. Suddenly one stops keeping good time, so you get it serviced. $120 dollars later you go 'at least its running well'. Then 3 or 4 more do the same thing after you schwack your wrist on a door jamb or your desk at work......."ummmm"....$600 later you say "Man I could have bought another watch with that money!".
Phase 3: Buy a quartz watch, you know..as a 'beater'...only for 'around the house wear'. Realize the watch is always on time, and when it stops...you replace the $8 dollar battery yourself. Find yourself wearing it out more and more because you don't have to constantly set it. The date may be wrong but nobody looks at that complication anyhow and you just grab and go it.
Final Phase: Acquire a case full of quartz watches because all watches are cool, they are just for looking at and nobody gives a rats @$$ about what movement it has, and you've learned that the people online who tell you to only buy autos............are n00bs
Great looking watch at $125.
My IWC Pilot has been sitting in it's winding case for years now. Unplugged. I dont even wear a watch anymore. Just use my iphone. I might get an apple watch. I should really just sell my IWC.
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Case in point, GMT with Seiko NH34 automatic from San Martin:
About $150 after discounts: https://watchdives.com/collection...f=
Way better bracelet and clasp than the Seiko 5 GMTs (I have both the Black dial with applied and the white dial with printed indices). Swiss BGW9 lume on the Black and Swiss C3 on the White - lume is better if you get the applied indicies though
At the same $300 level you can get a truly premium looking piece:
https://watchdives.com/collection...f=
And my personal favorite GMT (I like the sizing better than the Tudor GMT)- also has the Seiko inside.
https://watchdives.com/collection...f=
Phase 1: Quartz is for children, automatics are the only real watches.
Phase 2: Acquire a box or seven of automatics. Star to wear them. Suddenly one stops keeping good time, so you get it serviced. $120 dollars later you go 'at least its running well'. Then 3 or 4 more do the same thing after you schwack your wrist on a door jamb or your desk at work......."ummmm"....$600 later you say "Man I could have bought another watch with that money!".
Phase 3: Buy a quartz watch, you know..as a 'beater'...only for 'around the house wear'. Realize the watch is always on time, and when it stops...you replace the $8 dollar battery yourself. Find yourself wearing it out more and more because you don't have to constantly set it. The date may be wrong but nobody looks at that complication anyhow and you just grab and go it.
Final Phase: Acquire a case full of quartz watches because all watches are cool, they are just for looking at and nobody gives a rats @$$ about what movement it has, and you've learned that the people online who tell you to only buy autos............are n00bs
Great looking watch at $125.
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All you need to know is if it's got a sapphire crystal. It's decent, build quality and this is a Swiss movement and made in Switzerland. You just don't find that for $125 and I have probably seven or eight automatics and three or four high accuracy courses and your automatics. You need to keep unwinders all the time and it's nice. Just to have a couple of high accuracy courses. Just grab and go. Not worry about winding and setting
Wrong. The Rhonda gl852 quartz movement in this cost $40 alone. People are so ignorant on the site. The people espousing owning automatic Stone on them. I own several of them and they're a pain in the ass because the watch you want to wear unless you've got a winder for every watch is not wound. They're highly inaccurate. I mean they lose two to three seconds a day versus a high accuracy quartz which will lose one second a year. A high accuracy course I think is only allowed to lose 2 seconds a year. So the time you lose in a day or gain based on the inaccuracy of an automatic unless it's a cosc certified chronograph is going to be 2 to 3 seconds a day. So you're going to lose 10 to 15 minutes a year in accuracy with an automatic.
I bought glycine just when they were off loading all the subcombats before Invicta bought them.
This a hell of a deal for $125
I like my automatics but it's nice to have a high accuracy course with a sapphire. Crystal that you can actually read the dial easily. You're all against electronic watches. What about all your iWatches and etc. Come on people
It's a great watch for the money. Swiss, sapphire, good finishing, nice bracelet. I'm not a GMT guy, but quite like how it's a small second dial.
For those concerned with the size: I have a 7.5 inch wrist and typically wear 40-42mm watches. This watch, even with the thin bezel, doesn't feel oversized to me. Please note that everything was new in box, with stickers, tags etc. But mine didn't come with extra links and probably wouldn't fit someone with much greater than a 7.5 inch wrist.
I don't get the quartz hate. It's nice to not wear a watch for a week, pick it up, and be ticking away on time.
Two firsts for me: This is my first butterfly clasp. It's not my preference but I'm getting used to it and the milling is good enough. And, it's my first pilots watch, so I'm not sure if this is typical or a manufacturing error, but the hour hand is beneath the minute hand. So when it's 12:00, you only see the minute hand. Kind of strange when you first see it.
As for the retail price: yes, no one is paying 1500 or whatever, or 500. But it's good at 200 and great for $125 if you're in the market for a pilot style watch.
Anyway, this was my first Ashford purchase and no complaints. New watch, smooth transaction.
I just wish the green dial was on sale when I bought mine, but I'm very pleased with the watch.
Phase 1: Quartz is for children, automatics are the only real watches.
Phase 2: Acquire a box or seven of automatics. Star to wear them. Suddenly one stops keeping good time, so you get it serviced. $120 dollars later you go 'at least its running well'. Then 3 or 4 more do the same thing after you schwack your wrist on a door jamb or your desk at work......."ummmm"....$600 later you say "Man I could have bought another watch with that money!".
Phase 3: Buy a quartz watch, you know..as a 'beater'...only for 'around the house wear'. Realize the watch is always on time, and when it stops...you replace the $8 dollar battery yourself. Find yourself wearing it out more and more because you don't have to constantly set it. The date may be wrong but nobody looks at that complication anyhow and you just grab and go it.
Final Phase: Acquire a case full of quartz watches because all watches are cool, they are just for looking at and nobody gives a rats @$$ about what movement it has, and you've learned that the people online who tell you to only buy autos............are n00bs
Great looking watch at $125.
For real.
Out of all the watches in my watch box, my Citizen Eco-drive Nighthawk has gotten the most compliments. Plus I never have to set its time.
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Phase 1: Quartz is for children, automatics are the only real watches.
Phase 2: Acquire a box or seven of automatics. Star to wear them. Suddenly one stops keeping good time, so you get it serviced. $120 dollars later you go 'at least its running well'. Then 3 or 4 more do the same thing after you schwack your wrist on a door jamb or your desk at work......."ummmm"....$600 later you say "Man I could have bought another watch with that money!".
Phase 3: Buy a quartz watch, you know..as a 'beater'...only for 'around the house wear'. Realize the watch is always on time, and when it stops...you replace the $8 dollar battery yourself. Find yourself wearing it out more and more because you don't have to constantly set it. The date may be wrong but nobody looks at that complication anyhow and you just grab and go it.
Final Phase: Acquire a case full of quartz watches because all watches are cool, they are just for looking at and nobody gives a rats @$$ about what movement it has, and you've learned that the people online who tell you to only buy autos............are n00bs https://static.slickdealscdn.com/ima...lies/smile.gif
Great looking watch at $125.
Wrong. There's more to various quartz watches than just the quartz module. This watch has a Ronda 4210.B movement. GMT function and 4 jewels. Cost for me as a watchmaker is around $50. So, no, you're not paying $120 for a case. A cheap plastic PC11 movement is around $10.
Phase 1: Quartz is for children, automatics are the only real watches.
Phase 2: Acquire a box or seven of automatics. Star to wear them. Suddenly one stops keeping good time, so you get it serviced. $120 dollars later you go 'at least its running well'. Then 3 or 4 more do the same thing after you schwack your wrist on a door jamb or your desk at work......."ummmm"....$600 later you say "Man I could have bought another watch with that money!".
Phase 3: Buy a quartz watch, you know..as a 'beater'...only for 'around the house wear'. Realize the watch is always on time, and when it stops...you replace the $8 dollar battery yourself. Find yourself wearing it out more and more because you don't have to constantly set it. The date may be wrong but nobody looks at that complication anyhow and you just grab and go it.
Final Phase: Acquire a case full of quartz watches because all watches are cool, they are just for looking at and nobody gives a rats @$$ about what movement it has, and you've learned that the people online who tell you to only buy autos............are n00bs https://static.slickdealscdn.com/ima...lies/smile.gif
Great looking watch at $125.
The BEST timekeepers are Quartz, this is indisputable. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. But each type has it's place depending on what you value.
The biggest problem I have with quartz is that they are so affordable, I continue to add to an almost embarrassingly large collection.
couple comments...
the link goes to a dual time watch. Not a GMT watch. i think the dual time is more useful for me because it is easier to read at a glance.
the leather strap is really nice at this price. quick change strap so you can swap out easily. I have the one with the blue face and works well with the brown, black or even grey straps.
would have liked to have raised indices. lume is decent.
overall seems to be built well. it is swiss made for what that means anymore. for a dual time watch with this kind of build, $125 is absolutely worth it.
Phase 1: Quartz is for children, automatics are the only real watches.
Phase 2: Acquire a box or seven of automatics. Star to wear them. Suddenly one stops keeping good time, so you get it serviced. $120 dollars later you go 'at least its running well'. Then 3 or 4 more do the same thing after you schwack your wrist on a door jamb or your desk at work......."ummmm"....$600 later you say "Man I could have bought another watch with that money!".
Phase 3: Buy a quartz watch, you know..as a 'beater'...only for 'around the house wear'. Realize the watch is always on time, and when it stops...you replace the $8 dollar battery yourself. Find yourself wearing it out more and more because you don't have to constantly set it. The date may be wrong but nobody looks at that complication anyhow and you just grab and go it.
Final Phase: Acquire a case full of quartz watches because all watches are cool, they are just for looking at and nobody gives a rats @$$ about what movement it has, and you've learned that the people online who tell you to only buy autos............are n00bs https://static.slickdealscdn.com/ima...lies/smile.gif
Great looking watch at $125.
The only watch I would 100% suggest not to buy are counterfeit/replicas. Those are bad mojo and a waste of hard earned $. Just buy a homage instead. Even a $25 Chinese homage is better than any counterfeit/replica watch.
The most important part about buying/wearing watches is to have fun and enjoy them for what ever reason you choose.
IMHO this is a pretty darn nice watch for $125...
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Phase 1: Quartz is for children, automatics are the only real watches.
Phase 2: Acquire a box or seven of automatics. Star to wear them. Suddenly one stops keeping good time, so you get it serviced. $120 dollars later you go 'at least its running well'. Then 3 or 4 more do the same thing after you schwack your wrist on a door jamb or your desk at work......."ummmm"....$600 later you say "Man I could have bought another watch with that money!".
Phase 3: Buy a quartz watch, you know..as a 'beater'...only for 'around the house wear'. Realize the watch is always on time, and when it stops...you replace the $8 dollar battery yourself. Find yourself wearing it out more and more because you don't have to constantly set it. The date may be wrong but nobody looks at that complication anyhow and you just grab and go it.
Final Phase: Acquire a case full of quartz watches because all watches are cool, they are just for looking at and nobody gives a rats @$$ about what movement it has, and you've learned that the people online who tell you to only buy autos............are n00bs
Great looking watch at $125.