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YMMV Kobalt 24-volt Variable Speed Brushless 3/8-in Drive Cordless Impact Wrench (Bare Tool) in the Impact Wrenches department at Lowes.com $59.57

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YMMV zip code 15122 had a few of these in stock and on sale

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Kobalt-2...1001864238
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YMMV zip code 15122 had a few of these in stock and on sale

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Kobalt-2...1001864238

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Model: Kobalt 24-volt Max Variable Speed Brushless 3/8-in Drive Cordless Impact Wrench (Bare Tool) in Blue | KRAIW 124B-03

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Jun 07, 2024 08:21 PM
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BN30Jun 07, 2024 08:21 PM
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This is almost as good as Ridgid . After hack I paid 90 for a Ridgid . Definitely a good price .
Jun 07, 2024 08:27 PM
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DiepD5490Jun 07, 2024 08:27 PM
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Full price in my area
Jun 07, 2024 08:32 PM
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LavenderFog180Jun 07, 2024 08:32 PM
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Jun 07, 2024 08:44 PM
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jpd_f550Jun 07, 2024 08:44 PM
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I purchased one of these in March using some gift cards. I have not used it yet, but it is much, much larger than I had anticipated. The size made me question the usefulness of the tool in tight spaces (which it why I bought it in the first place).

This basic theme "too big to be useful" seems to hold true for some of the Kobalt 24V cordless tools I have, including a brushless angle grinder, and a brushless die grinder. The regular 3/8" brushless impact wrench I have is a reasonable size.
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Jun 07, 2024 10:10 PM
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Jun 07, 2024 10:10 PM
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Quote from jpd_f550 :
I purchased one of these in March using some gift cards. I have not used it yet, but it is much, much larger than I had anticipated. The size made me question the usefulness of the tool in tight spaces (which it why I bought it in the first place).

This basic theme "too big to be useful" seems to hold true for some of the Kobalt 24V cordless tools I have, including a brushless angle grinder, and a brushless die grinder. The regular 3/8" brushless impact wrench I have is a reasonable size.
It is huge i was surprised when I pulled out of the box. It is longer than my cat lol.
Jun 07, 2024 11:45 PM
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HartageJun 07, 2024 11:45 PM
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Quote from LavenderFog180 :
I just bot this one
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/32...pt=glo2usa [aliexpress.us]
not the same thing, yours is what is called a cordless ratchet. Like a typical ratchet it has a saw tooth gear and a pall that goes back and forth. It has the advantage of control and a small head that can get into tighter places, but torque and speed it does not have. The kobalt in this thread is a right angle torque wrench it goes at drill speed and when it encounters resistance, it loads up and begins it's impacting mechanism. These two things have some overlap in use but really on opposite sides of the spectrum. Your ratchet cannot spin fast and has no torque. You must use arm strength to "break" bolts and then use the motor. The torque wrench uses motor strength and that impacting mechanism to break bolts free. Conversely, your ratchet has a much lower chance of cross threading or stripping bolts and nuts because of the better control and weaker torque. Very different animals.
Jun 07, 2024 11:47 PM
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HartageJun 07, 2024 11:47 PM
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Quote from jpd_f550 :
I purchased one of these in March using some gift cards. I have not used it yet, but it is much, much larger than I had anticipated. The size made me question the usefulness of the tool in tight spaces (which it why I bought it in the first place).

This basic theme "too big to be useful" seems to hold true for some of the Kobalt 24V cordless tools I have, including a brushless angle grinder, and a brushless die grinder. The regular 3/8" brushless impact wrench I have is a reasonable size.
I have this thing.... love it. the same difference and the same usefulness as a right angle drill vs a regular drill in tight places.

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Jun 08, 2024 03:25 AM
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LavenderFog180Jun 08, 2024 03:25 AM
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Quote from Hartage :
not the same thing, yours is what is called a cordless ratchet. Like a typical ratchet it has a saw tooth gear and a pall that goes back and forth. It has the advantage of control and a small head that can get into tighter places, but torque and speed it does not have. The kobalt in this thread is a right angle torque wrench it goes at drill speed and when it encounters resistance, it loads up and begins it's impacting mechanism. These two things have some overlap in use but really on opposite sides of the spectrum. Your ratchet cannot spin fast and has no torque. You must use arm strength to "break" bolts and then use the motor. The torque wrench uses motor strength and that impacting mechanism to break bolts free. Conversely, your ratchet has a much lower chance of cross threading or stripping bolts and nuts because of the better control and weaker torque. Very different animals.
that make sense.
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Jun 08, 2024 07:45 AM
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CyanPencil512Jun 08, 2024 07:45 AM
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Quote from Hartage :
not the same thing, yours is what is called a cordless ratchet. Like a typical ratchet it has a saw tooth gear and a pall that goes back and forth. It has the advantage of control and a small head that can get into tighter places, but torque and speed it does not have. The kobalt in this thread is a right angle torque wrench it goes at drill speed and when it encounters resistance, it loads up and begins it's impacting mechanism. These two things have some overlap in use but really on opposite sides of the spectrum. Your ratchet cannot spin fast and has no torque. You must use arm strength to "break" bolts and then use the motor. The torque wrench uses motor strength and that impacting mechanism to break bolts free. Conversely, your ratchet has a much lower chance of cross threading or stripping bolts and nuts because of the better control and weaker torque. Very different animals.
"right angle torque wrench" -> "right angle impact wrench"

Torque wrench is yet something different, this is not one, just to clarify.
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Jun 08, 2024 08:18 AM
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HartageJun 08, 2024 08:18 AM
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Quote from CyanPencil512 :
"right angle torque wrench" -> "right angle impact wrench"

Torque wrench is yet something different, this is not one, just to clarify.
Lol, sometimes what we want to say or intend to say doesn't quite come out the way it was supposed to...... Yes, I mean impact wrench, even if my fingers were uncooperative and zigged instead of zagged.
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Jun 08, 2024 02:17 PM
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SkillfulShoe989Jun 08, 2024 02:17 PM
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Quote from jpd_f550 :
I purchased one of these in March using some gift cards. I have not used it yet, but it is much, much larger than I had anticipated. The size made me question the usefulness of the tool in tight spaces (which it why I bought it in the first place).

This basic theme "too big to be useful" seems to hold true for some of the Kobalt 24V cordless tools I have, including a brushless angle grinder, and a brushless die grinder. The regular 3/8" brushless impact wrench I have is a reasonable size.
not sure if you have anything to compare it to but I bought the m12 1/2 drive and compared the size. The heads on both are the same size. the kobalt is a tad longer and using anything bigger than the 2 amp will add bulk.
Jun 08, 2024 05:20 PM
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brotherhpj41Jun 08, 2024 05:20 PM
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went to the store and yes it is huge
Jun 10, 2024 01:09 PM
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jpd_f550Jun 10, 2024 01:09 PM
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Quote from SkillfulShoe989 :
not sure if you have anything to compare it to but I bought the m12 1/2 drive and compared the size. The heads on both are the same size. the kobalt is a tad longer and using anything bigger than the 2 amp will add bulk.
Unfortunately, I don't have anything else to compare against. I can only compare specifications of other tools.

The Milwaukee you referenced is quite an impressive tool. I'm not sure there's really any comparison between the specs of the Kobalt versus the Milwaukee. Excluding any weight/length the batteries might add, the Milwaukee is 1 full pound lighter, more than 3.5" shorter, 1/2" drive, 60 more ft/lbs of torque, and 1000RPM faster max speed. It seems awesome and I want one!

Comparing those two basically illustrates what I was getting at with my original comment. I don't feel that some of the Kobalt "specialty" tools are engineered very well and as a result, they're larger, heavier, and less capable than other brands of tools that perform the same function. Every similar tool I could find (Milwaukee, Ridgid, Ingersoll Rand) beats the Kobalt on size and weight. That's all expected since the Kobalt is on the budget-end of the tool spectrum here. The Kobalt wins on price (and maybe value?), but that's about it.

Since I had the Kobalt, I felt I had to point out how physically large the thing was.
Jun 15, 2024 02:46 AM
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eddie277Jun 15, 2024 02:46 AM
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Quote from jpd_f550 :
Unfortunately, I don't have anything else to compare against. I can only compare specifications of other tools.

The Milwaukee you referenced is quite an impressive tool. I'm not sure there's really any comparison between the specs of the Kobalt versus the Milwaukee. Excluding any weight/length the batteries might add, the Milwaukee is 1 full pound lighter, more than 3.5" shorter, 1/2" drive, 60 more ft/lbs of torque, and 1000RPM faster max speed. It seems awesome and I want one!

Comparing those two basically illustrates what I was getting at with my original comment. I don't feel that some of the Kobalt "specialty" tools are engineered very well and as a result, they're larger, heavier, and less capable than other brands of tools that perform the same function. Every similar tool I could find (Milwaukee, Ridgid, Ingersoll Rand) beats the Kobalt on size and weight. That's all expected since the Kobalt is on the budget-end of the tool spectrum here. The Kobalt wins on price (and maybe value?), but that's about it.

Since I had the Kobalt, I felt I had to point out how physically large the thing was.
Guess you never saw the torque test channel video awhile back on YouTube. Yes the m12 is not as long but the kobalt has more power. By like 70 ft lbs. Kobalt actually unspecs it while milwaukee overspecs theirs. Kobalt was like 250 ft lbs and milwaukee was 180 lbs. I've owned and used both. The kobalt is stronger. Milwaukee is more ergonomic tho

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