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30-Pack Deluxe Valley Greene Heirloom Non-GMO Vegetable Garden Seeds

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Black Duck Deals via Amazon has 30-Pack Deluxe Valley Greene Heirloom Non-GMO Vegetable Garden Seeds on sale for $9.99. Shipping is free w/ Prime or on $35+ orders.

Thanks to Community Member Tinkleondabeach2 for finding this deal.

Includes:
  • Burpee Stringless Green Pod Garden Bean
  • Topnotch Golden Wax Garden Bean
  • Detroit Dark Red Beet
  • Calabrese Green Sprouting Broccoli
  • Nantes Coreless Carrots
  • Cubanelle Pepper
  • Stowell's Evergreen Sweetcorn
  • Country Gentleman Sweetcorn
  • Table Queen Squash
  • Chicago Pickling Cucumber
  • Marketmore 76 Cucumber
  • White Spine Cucumber
  • Black Seeded Simpson Lettuce
  • Beefsteak Tomato
  • Garlic Chives
  • Green Arrow Peas
  • Keystone Resistant Giant Pepper
  • Rutgers Tomato
  • Jack O' Lantern Pumpkin
  • Champion Radish
  • Golden Bantam Sweetcorn
  • Parris Island Cos Lettuce
  • Cherry Tomato
  • Purple Top White Globe Turnip
  • Seven Top Turnip
  • Black Beauty Zucchini Squash
  • Early Scarlet Globe Radish
  • Bloomsdale Longstanding Spinach
  • Early Prolific Straightneck Squash
  • Buttercrunch Lettuce

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Written by citan359 | Staff
  • About this Deal:
    • This matches the previous Frontpage Deal from earlier this month.
    • All seeds are dated Sell By December 2024 but if kept in a cool dry place seeds typically stay viable for years.
    • Rated 4.5 stars overall based on over 4,800 reviews.
    • Please see the original post for additional details and give the WIKI and forum comments a read for helpful discussion.
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Black Duck Deals via Amazon has 30-Pack Deluxe Valley Greene Heirloom Non-GMO Vegetable Garden Seeds on sale for $9.99. Shipping is free w/ Prime or on $35+ orders.

Thanks to Community Member Tinkleondabeach2 for finding this deal.

Includes:
  • Burpee Stringless Green Pod Garden Bean
  • Topnotch Golden Wax Garden Bean
  • Detroit Dark Red Beet
  • Calabrese Green Sprouting Broccoli
  • Nantes Coreless Carrots
  • Cubanelle Pepper
  • Stowell's Evergreen Sweetcorn
  • Country Gentleman Sweetcorn
  • Table Queen Squash
  • Chicago Pickling Cucumber
  • Marketmore 76 Cucumber
  • White Spine Cucumber
  • Black Seeded Simpson Lettuce
  • Beefsteak Tomato
  • Garlic Chives
  • Green Arrow Peas
  • Keystone Resistant Giant Pepper
  • Rutgers Tomato
  • Jack O' Lantern Pumpkin
  • Champion Radish
  • Golden Bantam Sweetcorn
  • Parris Island Cos Lettuce
  • Cherry Tomato
  • Purple Top White Globe Turnip
  • Seven Top Turnip
  • Black Beauty Zucchini Squash
  • Early Scarlet Globe Radish
  • Bloomsdale Longstanding Spinach
  • Early Prolific Straightneck Squash
  • Buttercrunch Lettuce

Editor's Notes

Written by citan359 | Staff
  • About this Deal:
    • This matches the previous Frontpage Deal from earlier this month.
    • All seeds are dated Sell By December 2024 but if kept in a cool dry place seeds typically stay viable for years.
    • Rated 4.5 stars overall based on over 4,800 reviews.
    • Please see the original post for additional details and give the WIKI and forum comments a read for helpful discussion.
  • About this Store:

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Written by Tinkleondabeach

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jeecay
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Heirloom basically means that the plant you grow can produce seeds that can grow more of the same kind of plant.
bmv_a2
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​LOL well let's see . . . I currently have their beefsteek tomato, Detroit dark red beet (almost ready to harvest) keystone resistant giant bell pepper, cubanelle pepper, mammoth dill (not included in the 30 packet offer) and a 2nd round of purple top turnips growing, but it will be a month or so before I can share harvest pictures of most of those. I'm attaching photos of the black seeded simpson lettuce, parris island cos Lettuce, buttercrunch lettuce, 1st round of purple top turnips, and bloomsdale longstanding spinach I harvested last month.
EyeVandy
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The other type of plant is a "hybrid." They've crossed two types of tomato, pepper, etc. because that plant will produce veggies that have desirable characteristics. The child plant might produce more, or have a longer growing season, or sweeter fruit, something like that.

But when THAT plant produces seeds, those seeds aren't going to produce the same plant. The "grandchild" plant is going to be different. You can't buy Jalafuego seeds and grow them this year, and then save the seeds and grow more Jalafuegos next year.

Heirloom seeds are not better or worse than hybrids, just a different mindset. I haven't really heard of the term "heirloom" being applied to anything besides tomatoes before (sometimes it's just called "open-pollinated"). With tomatoes you have people that like the idea of really unique tomatoes that they can cultivate over the course of years, and you have people that just want a plant that produces hundreds of super sweet cherry tomatoes and is resistant to disease, and don't mind buying seeds or plants every year.

I've said this in other posts on these same seeds, but I think calling these "heirloom" is a little misleading. The concept of heirloom chives is ridiculous. Chives are a perennial that spread by multiplying bulbs underground, there's no reason to care whether their seeds will grow the same plant. I also can't imagine trying to collect seeds from broccoli or lettuce but maybe people do this? As many people have said, these are not particularly expensive seeds, how could that be worth your time? At any rate there are no health or quality implications with hybrids vs. heirlooms despite what this seller is saying. And of course they throw the GMO scare in there even though you can't even buy GMO seeds at the consumer level.

If it were me, I'd take the $10 and buy 4 or 5 individual packets of vegetables that you really like, and get experience with those. And apart from tomatoes, don't worry about whether they are heirloom.

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Quote from Tinkleondabeach :
Thank you, that's a better definition than google's: "seeds passed down from previous generations". But with your definition, where else would seeds come from? Artificial?
The other type of plant is a "hybrid." They've crossed two types of tomato, pepper, etc. because that plant will produce veggies that have desirable characteristics. The child plant might produce more, or have a longer growing season, or sweeter fruit, something like that.

But when THAT plant produces seeds, those seeds aren't going to produce the same plant. The "grandchild" plant is going to be different. You can't buy Jalafuego seeds and grow them this year, and then save the seeds and grow more Jalafuegos next year.

Heirloom seeds are not better or worse than hybrids, just a different mindset. I haven't really heard of the term "heirloom" being applied to anything besides tomatoes before (sometimes it's just called "open-pollinated"). With tomatoes you have people that like the idea of really unique tomatoes that they can cultivate over the course of years, and you have people that just want a plant that produces hundreds of super sweet cherry tomatoes and is resistant to disease, and don't mind buying seeds or plants every year.

I've said this in other posts on these same seeds, but I think calling these "heirloom" is a little misleading. The concept of heirloom chives is ridiculous. Chives are a perennial that spread by multiplying bulbs underground, there's no reason to care whether their seeds will grow the same plant. I also can't imagine trying to collect seeds from broccoli or lettuce but maybe people do this? As many people have said, these are not particularly expensive seeds, how could that be worth your time? At any rate there are no health or quality implications with hybrids vs. heirlooms despite what this seller is saying. And of course they throw the GMO scare in there even though you can't even buy GMO seeds at the consumer level.

If it were me, I'd take the $10 and buy 4 or 5 individual packets of vegetables that you really like, and get experience with those. And apart from tomatoes, don't worry about whether they are heirloom.
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52clubJun 24, 2024 04:00 PM
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Just a tip is to check your local library, as many are accepting donations for seed libraries. Then patrons often get a set number of seed packets they are allowed each year.
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SchoobyJun 24, 2024 04:22 PM
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hmm I wonder if I can spread the seeds around the parameter of my yard so stuff grows that will keep the deer from eating my flowers.
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joebob2000Jun 24, 2024 05:09 PM
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Dont forget to stock up on seed starter kits that are getting clearanced out, if you are anywhere north of the mason dixon line you are going to need to start these seeds indoors for some time before the last frost (varies per plant) so mark your calendars for what seeds you are going to do and when they can go in the ground. Not many seends besides carrots and lettuce can you just drop in the ground whenever spring hits.
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hpark21Jun 24, 2024 05:23 PM
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Quote from Schooby :
hmm I wonder if I can spread the seeds around the parameter of my yard so stuff grows that will keep the deer from eating my flowers.
I have a feeling it will attract even MORE deers.
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SchoobyJun 24, 2024 05:31 PM
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Quote from hpark21 :
I have a feeling it will attract even MORE deers.
Yeah... probably.

I'd love for them to stop eating my lilies and well everything.

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Quote from bigetan :
Do these expire? If I save for next year?
I've used seeds that were five years old. The germination rate will go down but it never goes to zero unless they've gotten wet. They don't expire, but you need to keep them cool and away from humidity. I use photo boxes to organize my seeds. I'll never use all my seeds until we have the zombie apocalypse, but I'm ready when we do.
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turbodogJun 24, 2024 06:19 PM
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Thanks OP, but I get all my seeds from the guys at Sneed's Feed and Seed. (formerly Chuck's)
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EricJ3237Jun 24, 2024 08:51 PM
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Quote from bigetan :
Do these expire? If I save for next year?
Depends on the plant. You can expect the number of seeds that are successful year after year to keep dropping off. Apparently onions are pretty bad and have low success even after a couple years
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nolifeJun 25, 2024 02:32 AM
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Quote from jeecay :
Heirloom basically means that the plant you grow can produce seeds that can grow more of the same kind of plant.
I haven't bought cherry tomatoes in 5 years and have a hundred or so pop up everywhere every year. I consolidate the 15-20 I want to keep into my rows and pots. This year I have a pile of about 5 yards of compost and manure and the entire pile is 100% covered thick with them and they even come up through my river rocks.
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LivelyMusic493Jun 25, 2024 04:16 AM
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Look up if you have a local seed library and possibly get them for free.

https://seedlibraries.weebly.com/
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yuesehanJun 25, 2024 12:49 PM
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Quote from Tinkleondabeach :
You can't say it's good without showing us pics of your harvests!
That's right!WinkWinkWinkWinkwootwootwootwootwoot
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SenorPantalonesJun 25, 2024 03:04 PM
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Quote from 52club :
Just a tip is to check your local library, as many are accepting donations for seed libraries. Then patrons often get a set number of seed packets they are allowed each year.
Just found this at a local library the other day. They ask that "each family only take 3 packets a month". My county also runs a seed library where they send kits out but those are once a year go really fast.

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Quote from EyeVandy :
The other type of plant is a "hybrid." They've crossed two types of tomato, pepper, etc. because that plant will produce veggies that have desirable characteristics. The child plant might produce more, or have a longer growing season, or sweeter fruit, something like that.

But when THAT plant produces seeds, those seeds aren't going to produce the same plant. The "grandchild" plant is going to be different. You can't buy Jalafuego seeds and grow them this year, and then save the seeds and grow more Jalafuegos next year.

Heirloom seeds are not better or worse than hybrids, just a different mindset. I haven't really heard of the term "heirloom" being applied to anything besides tomatoes before (sometimes it's just called "open-pollinated"). With tomatoes you have people that like the idea of really unique tomatoes that they can cultivate over the course of years, and you have people that just want a plant that produces hundreds of super sweet cherry tomatoes and is resistant to disease, and don't mind buying seeds or plants every year.

I've said this in other posts on these same seeds, but I think calling these "heirloom" is a little misleading. The concept of heirloom chives is ridiculous. Chives are a perennial that spread by multiplying bulbs underground, there's no reason to care whether their seeds will grow the same plant. I also can't imagine trying to collect seeds from broccoli or lettuce but maybe people do this? As many people have said, these are not particularly expensive seeds, how could that be worth your time? At any rate there are no health or quality implications with hybrids vs. heirlooms despite what this seller is saying. And of course they throw the GMO scare in there even though you can't even buy GMO seeds at the consumer level.

If it were me, I'd take the $10 and buy 4 or 5 individual packets of vegetables that you really like, and get experience with those. And apart from tomatoes, don't worry about whether they are heirloom.
actually, most seeds produced and sold in the United States are of GMO nature. there's a huge article about this almost 10 years ago in nature, magazine, and various other publications
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