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Pioneer® Diamante Pro Series 36,000 BTU 19 SEER2 Ductless Mini-Split Air Conditioner Inverter+ Heat Pump Full Set 230V with 16 Ft. Kit

$1,789

$2,799

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Was about to settle for the 24k and found this for the 36k

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Total 1,789.20 + tax

https://www.pioneerminisplit.com/...J0aHOTQBrg
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Was about to settle for the 24k and found this for the 36k

List 2799
Sale 1988

4THOFJULY
- 198.80

Total 1,789.20 + tax

https://www.pioneerminisplit.com/...J0aHOTQBrg

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Jul 6, 2024
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PowerfulMagic115
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Funny, I had an hvac company come out about a year ago and a mini split (forget all the specs, sorry) was like $10k for 1 unit.

What do we do here? DIY install and then have someone who is licensed come deal with the coolant?
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I_slayed_Harambe
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Wow, a 3 ton unit. That's huge
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Quote from PowerfulMagic115 :
Funny, I had an hvac company come out about a year ago and a mini split (forget all the specs, sorry) was like $10k for 1 unit.

What do we do here? DIY install and then have someone who is licensed come deal with the coolant?
The compressor comes charged with freon. The line sets can't have any air, humidity, or containments in them so once you get everything installed you either hook up a vacuum pump or use a "flush kit" which pioneer sells. I've never used the flush kit. With the vacuum pump I let it run 15-30 minutes then turn it off and let the system sit a couple hours. If the system still has the same vacuum level after a sitting for a while you know there are no leaks and then turn a screw to release the refrigerant into the lines.

I have the MrCool 4 zone 36k for my house and the lines come pre charged so you just connect and go. It's convenient and I've had a great experience with the system but they have raised their prices so much I'd rather just vac the system. I'm not a HVAC tech but I've DIYd car A/C and commercial refrigeration repairs now and IMO it's pretty easy stuff.
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badfcar
Jul 6, 2024
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Looks the the 4th sale isn't still active?
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Quote from I_slayed_Harambe :
Wow, a 3 ton unit. That's huge
That's what she said
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joebells
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Yeah I installed one last year, it was really easy. I did the vacuum pump too, ran it for 45 minutes to be extra safe. It's been running since. The only real issue with my pioneer unit is the plastic that flips up on the internal unit, so you can work on it, sometimes vibrates a little and makes an annoying noise. Not super loud, but definitely noticeable. I plan on either putting some weight on it to keep it held down, or just tape it to the lower part.
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Quote from inhospitableUterus :
The compressor comes charged with freon. The line sets can't have any air, humidity, or containments in them so once you get everything installed you either hook up a vacuum pump or use a "flush kit" which pioneer sells. I've never used the flush kit. With the vacuum pump I let it run 15-30 minutes then turn it off and let the system sit a couple hours. If the system still has the same vacuum level after a sitting for a while you know there are no leaks and then turn a screw to release the refrigerant into the lines.

I have the MrCool 4 zone 36k for my house and the lines come pre charged so you just connect and go. It's convenient and I've had a great experience with the system but they have raised their prices so much I'd rather just vac the system. I'm not a HVAC tech but I've DIYd car A/C and commercial refrigeration repairs now and IMO it's pretty easy stuff.
Am pretty handy but haven't done anything like this. Could have swore I read some time ago that a licensed person needed to deal with part of it if one wanted warranties to be kept.

I'd def rather DIY this but not so sure about this particular unit itself. Have to do more research.

Thanks.

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Quote from PowerfulMagic115 :
Funny, I had an hvac company come out about a year ago and a mini split (forget all the specs, sorry) was like $10k for 1 unit.

What do we do here? DIY install and then have someone who is licensed come deal with the coolant?
Some of these warranties are voided with DIY installs according to NYTimes.Wirecutter
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Quote from PowerfulMagic115 :
Am pretty handy but haven't done anything like this. Could have swore I read some time ago that a licensed person needed to deal with part of it if one wanted warranties to be kept.

I'd def rather DIY this but not so sure about this particular unit itself. Have to do more research.

Thanks.
The tricky part is getting all the right fittings to do the vacuum pull. And having a digital vacuum gauge helped me determine if I have a good sealed system prior to releasing the refrigerant.
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PowerfulMagic115
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Quote from zdiddy987 :
Some of these warranties are voided with DIY installs according to NYTimes.Wirecutter
Yeah, I've read a bunch of conflicting things.

Not about to pay $10k for 1 unit if I can do it for around $2-3k.
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Quote from vwtoys :
The tricky part is getting all the right fittings to do the vacuum pull. And having a digital vacuum gauge helped me determine if I have a good sealed system prior to releasing the refrigerant.
So how many others things did you need to purchase?

A digital vacuum gauge, what else?
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karazi
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Just installed a 24k diamante ultra... Amazing unit... Good deal for 36k just no Wi-Fi (sold separately) and not energy star rated so can't do federal rebate I don't think... Install is not for the faint of heart.

Fyi warranty is NOT voided for diy install of these pioneer units, had confirmed with pioneer myself. Mr cool is an easier diy for the fact that the lineset comes pre charged while these do not necessitating vacuuming the lineset to remove impurities and testing for leaks. However Mr cool is plenty more expensive so depends if that's worth it for you
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Quote from PowerfulMagic115 :
Funny, I had an hvac company come out about a year ago and a mini split (forget all the specs, sorry) was like $10k for 1 unit.

What do we do here? DIY install and then have someone who is licensed come deal with the coolant?
I've had the same experience after seeing these DIY MrCool posts for years for an all in of closer to 2k. Is that margin pretty standard for central air systems as well?

I understand labor, insurance, etc costs. These just seem like an excellent option for someone who is handy.
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Quote from CleverLaborer7386 :
I've had the same experience after seeing these DIY MrCool posts for years for an all in of closer to 2k. Is that margin pretty standard for central air systems as well?

I understand labor, insurance, etc costs. These just seem like an excellent option for someone who is handy.
I'm not sure about central air. I didn't bother with quotes for that, only ductless mini-splits.

My attic is wide open and a prime candidate for central air but I'd rather mini-splits.

I'm handy but these have me second guessing all of the time due to the warranty. I'd obviously want the warranty intact.

I'm not sure how these perform vs various Mitsubishi units.

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sharartimunda
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36k def enough for a business or a whole house floor.

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