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Onkyo TX-RZ70 11.2 Channel AV Receiver - $2299

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Great price on what may be the best AVR ever built! $2299 w/ Free Prime Shipping from Amazon.

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11 CHANNELS, 140 WATTS: Home theater buffs rejoice! The Onkyo TX-RZ70 is our most powerful AVR yet, giving you the power to design the ultimate entertainment space with discrete zones, multiple subwoofers, and high-performance components that won't overheat or lag.
STUDIO GRADE PROCESSING: Built by and for audiophiles, but intuitively built for the everyman. Utilizing the very latest audio technology including ESS Sabre DACs, THX Certification, and eARC functionality, the Onkyo TX-RZ70 overdelivers on premium home theater performance.
DIRAC LIVE TECHNOLOGIES: You deserve an AVR that adapts to your life, not the other way around. With built-in Dirac Live Room Calibration Full Bandwidth, the Onkyo TX-RZ70 uses machine learning to perfectly adapt and calibrate your audio settings to your unique speaker system and room layout. And big bass fans will also be able to upgrade their system (firmware available June 2023) with Dirac Live Bass Control Single/Multi Subwoofer for optimal calibration of the lowest tones.
IMAX ENHANCED MODE: Bring the theater experience to your home by recreating IMAX content just as filmmakers intended. The TX-RZ70 meets the precise quality standards established by IMAX to reduce noise and grain to produce brighter, clearer pictures, plus immersive sound for the ultimate cinema experience. IMAX Enhanced Mode also provides a stretched aspect ratio for up to 26% more picture on your screen.
THX CERTIFIED: In 1993, Onkyo became the first consumer home theater electronics brand to be THX-certified, after thousands of tests. No matter what input is used, what combination of built-in features are used, what preamplifier or amplifier, there can be absolutely nothing added, nothing taken away from the source material. And the TX-RZ70 offers four distinct THX listening modes: cinema, gaming, music, and surround EX.
KLIPSCH OPTIMIZE MODE: Klipsch and Onkyo teamed up to implement the precise crossover values for specific new speakers, so you can easily and seamlessly integrate your Klipsch Reference and Reference Premiere speakers with your new Onkyo AVR. Simply select the model of speaker for each channel, and the optimized crossover setting will be automatically applied.
ADVANCED MUSIC STREAMING & CONNECTIVITY: Our customers are precise and value the latest technology. That's why we've included a host of built-in options for your favorite streaming apps and smart home assistants.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BZWR8JWV
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Great price on what may be the best AVR ever built! $2299 w/ Free Prime Shipping from Amazon.

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11 CHANNELS, 140 WATTS: Home theater buffs rejoice! The Onkyo TX-RZ70 is our most powerful AVR yet, giving you the power to design the ultimate entertainment space with discrete zones, multiple subwoofers, and high-performance components that won't overheat or lag.
STUDIO GRADE PROCESSING: Built by and for audiophiles, but intuitively built for the everyman. Utilizing the very latest audio technology including ESS Sabre DACs, THX Certification, and eARC functionality, the Onkyo TX-RZ70 overdelivers on premium home theater performance.
DIRAC LIVE TECHNOLOGIES: You deserve an AVR that adapts to your life, not the other way around. With built-in Dirac Live Room Calibration Full Bandwidth, the Onkyo TX-RZ70 uses machine learning to perfectly adapt and calibrate your audio settings to your unique speaker system and room layout. And big bass fans will also be able to upgrade their system (firmware available June 2023) with Dirac Live Bass Control Single/Multi Subwoofer for optimal calibration of the lowest tones.
IMAX ENHANCED MODE: Bring the theater experience to your home by recreating IMAX content just as filmmakers intended. The TX-RZ70 meets the precise quality standards established by IMAX to reduce noise and grain to produce brighter, clearer pictures, plus immersive sound for the ultimate cinema experience. IMAX Enhanced Mode also provides a stretched aspect ratio for up to 26% more picture on your screen.
THX CERTIFIED: In 1993, Onkyo became the first consumer home theater electronics brand to be THX-certified, after thousands of tests. No matter what input is used, what combination of built-in features are used, what preamplifier or amplifier, there can be absolutely nothing added, nothing taken away from the source material. And the TX-RZ70 offers four distinct THX listening modes: cinema, gaming, music, and surround EX.
KLIPSCH OPTIMIZE MODE: Klipsch and Onkyo teamed up to implement the precise crossover values for specific new speakers, so you can easily and seamlessly integrate your Klipsch Reference and Reference Premiere speakers with your new Onkyo AVR. Simply select the model of speaker for each channel, and the optimized crossover setting will be automatically applied.
ADVANCED MUSIC STREAMING & CONNECTIVITY: Our customers are precise and value the latest technology. That's why we've included a host of built-in options for your favorite streaming apps and smart home assistants.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BZWR8JWV

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Jul 13, 2024 05:14 PM
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Here is an in depth rundown on the RZ70

https://youtu.be/AhUPirMGydQ?si=ci1JY7WiLZbeDTpP
Jul 13, 2024 06:04 PM
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shaddaiJul 13, 2024 06:04 PM
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A good receiver but the discount is nothing special!
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Quote from shaddai :
A good receiver but the discount is nothing special!
Based on what is available out there

Name others that offer this level of performance for anywhere near this price
It out benches the Denon X6800

and oh..btw...I bet it would pass the AV Science Sinad testing Wink

https://www.audioholics.com/av-re...-tx-rz70-1
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OP you need to link the latest Audioholics testing of the amp /power supply on this

The numbers are extremely impressive and I dont know an AVR under $5-6K that can touch these measurements...Denon X4800 cant...Denon X6800 cant

https://www.audioholics.com/av-re...-tx-rz70-1
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Quote from turnne :
Based on what is available out there

Name others that offer this level of performance for anywhere near this price
It out benches the Denon X6800

and oh..btw...I bet it would pass the AV Science Sinad testing Wink

https://www.audioholics.com/av-re...-tx-rz70-1
The Pioneer LX805 (same receiver but with XLR output for LR channels) was $1699 no so long ago from buydig - that was a much better deal than this.
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Quote from jmmarsh2 :
The Pioneer LX805 (same receiver but with XLR output for LR channels) was $1699 no so long ago from buydig - that was a much better deal than this.
Agreed. Get closer to $1699 and it's a hot deal!

I would've gone for the 805 if I didn't have a 3800 already! The XLR inputs on my XPA2 continue to be unused but it sounds fine on RCA connections.
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Quote from turnne :
It out benches the Denon X6800
Now it's my turn to call BS on you! Show me the link from a professional site where the 6800 was bench tested!
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Quote from jmmarsh2 :
The Pioneer LX805 (same receiver but with XLR output for LR channels) was $1699 no so long ago from buydig - that was a much better deal than this.
Thats a good point...and the Integra version was here for $3299...which I dont think is a good deal

My only concern about the Pioneer is I think it has global crossovers...but at $1699 that was the deal of the decade IMO
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Quote from shaddai :
Now it's my turn to call BS on you! Show me the link from a professional site where the 6800 was bench tested!
LOL...you read AV science right?

There are details there with bench testing for both the Denon X6800 and A1H

if you havent noticed..I dont waste much time responding to you anymore since your credibility is shot

But you have taken the time to read my posts from 10-15 years ago on AVS ..correct?
You wont find any BS , inconsistency , or pivoting," confusion" or just flat making things up with no basis in my posts

But ..based on your " said" examination of my history, you already know that...Wink
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Quote from shaddai :
Agreed. Get closer to $1699 and it's a hot deal!

I would've gone for the 805 if I didn't have a 3800 already! The XLR inputs on my XPA2 continue to be unused but it sounds fine on RCA connections.
With that purchase you no doubt would have gotten some better Sinad numbers....
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shaddaiJul 14, 2024 05:19 PM
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Quote from turnne :
LOL...you read AV science right?

There are details there with bench testing for both the Denon X6800 and A1H

if you havent noticed..I dont waste much time responding to you anymore since your credibility is shot

But you have taken the time to read my posts from 10-15 years ago on AVS ..correct?
You wont find any BS , inconsistency , or pivoting," confusion" or just flat making things up with no basis in my posts

But ..based on your " said" examination of my history, you already know that...Wink
So no link, right? Thank you for confirming your complete fabrication! Wink
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Quote from turnne :
With that purchase you no doubt would have gotten some better Sinad numbers....
So I have nothing better to do than chase SINAD differences all day that have no impact due to being inaudible?

From Gene's recent bench test of the RZ70:
"The TX-RZ70 produced very low distortion of 99dB SINAD (.001% THD+N) for the main channels and 86dB SINAD (.005% THD+N) for the surround channels via the multi-ch preouts.
Note: While this distortion difference is measurable between channel groups, it's unlikely to be audible."
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Quote from shaddai :
So no link, right? Thank you for confirming your complete fabrication! Wink
Oh..I didnt fabricate anything

Are you suggesting that I use your tactics?

What did you learn from ready my 15 years of posts on AVS forums?....Wink
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Quote from shaddai :
So I have nothing better to do than chase SINAD differences all day that have no impact due to being inaudible?

From Gene's recent bench test of the RZ70:
"The TX-RZ70 produced very low distortion of 99dB SINAD (.001% THD+N) for the main channels and 86dB SINAD (.005% THD+N) for the surround channels via the multi-ch preouts.
Note: While this distortion difference is measurable between channel groups, it's unlikely to be audible."
Well...that is your opinion....and he uses the word unlikely which doesnt reconcile with 100% percent situation does it?

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shaddaiJul 14, 2024 06:15 PM
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Quote from turnne :
Well...that is your opinion....and he uses the word unlikely which doesnt reconcile with 100% percent situation does it?
Yes, an opinion apparently shared by Gene of Audioholics as well as many others on ASR and AVS. So we believe Gene or we don't? Make up your mind!

I don't judge folks chasing SINAD numbers because that's they're prerogative. What I take offense to is if someone claims to be able to tell 99dB SINAD from 86dB SINAD in a DBT!

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