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Jul 25, 2024 12:59 AM

Stone Espresso Machines: Premium (Satin), Plus, or Mine (Black)

$900 each

$1,699

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Seattle Coffee Gear has select Stone Espresso Machines on sale for $999.97 - 10% when you apply discount code REKSKJSD via checkout = $899.98 aach. Shipping is free.

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Available (price after code REKSKJSD applied via checkout):Product Details:
  • Each Model Includes:
    • Portafilter, Single Portafilter Basket, Double Portafilter Basket, Backflushing Basket, Tamper, Group Brush & Removable Side Panels

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  • About this deal:
    • These prices are $799.02 lower (47% savings) than the list price of $1699
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    • Includes 2 Year Seattle Coffee Gear Warranty
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Seattle Coffee Gear has select Stone Espresso Machines on sale for $999.97 - 10% when you apply discount code REKSKJSD via checkout = $899.98 aach. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Deal Hunter Navy-Wife for sharing this deal.

Available (price after code REKSKJSD applied via checkout):Product Details:
  • Each Model Includes:
    • Portafilter, Single Portafilter Basket, Double Portafilter Basket, Backflushing Basket, Tamper, Group Brush & Removable Side Panels

Editor's Notes

Written by powerfuldoppler | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • These prices are $799.02 lower (47% savings) than the list price of $1699
    • Get 1%-5% cash back on deals like this with a cash back credit card. Compare the available cash back credit cards here.
    • Includes 2 Year Seattle Coffee Gear Warranty
    • Please see the original post for additional details & give the WIKI and additional forum comments a read for helpful discussion.

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seanleeforever
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Breville Bambino uses thermoblock, so it heats up water as it flows.
where as boiler machine heats up a pot of water. so it requires more energy, and therefor time.

but thermoblock has its issues, lots of issues if you aim for perfection: the temperature coming out of the thermoblock is inversely proportional to the speed of the flow. if you have a perfect flow, e,g, around 27 seconds for 1:2 ratio, then it works wonders, but if you flow differs, say it is bit too fast, then not only you take the penalty of under extraction due to fast flow, but also much lower temperature. so instead of be able to fix two variables out of three (grind size, temperature, time) and fine tune your drink one variable at a time, you are now moving two variables at the same time. this is extremely hard to do if you want consistent good taste of light roast coffee.

you don't have to take my word for it, got yourself a thermometer and test the water out of the Bambino (or anyother thermoblock machine), turn it on and just see the number jumps from 95 to 80 in no time. you would be lucky to have 15ml of water at desired temperature before it fluctuates

i personally have/had espresso machine priced from 200 dollar to 4000 dollars, i think the single most improvement one can do as far as espresso machine is concerned is to move to dual boiler with PID (so you do milk based drink much faster and better). but this been a HX at this price is probably as good as it goes. i won't mind getting it if i were to throw away my current setup
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matt16148
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Personally I think the Bambino's 10 second heat up time is a gimmick because the portafilter is still cold. The water might be hot but my extraction is going to suck if the group robs all the heat away.
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AquaStraw178
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Because that's not the whole story. 10 minutes means the entire system gets up to temperature, including the relatively large steam boiler, the group, and the portafilter. All this equates to impressively stable brewing temperatures and great steaming performance. No need to preheat the portafilter, and the water temperature coming out of the group is much more consistent, check out Kaffeemacher's review on youtube. It also goes without saying that the stone is extremely serviceable and can be maintained to run indefinitely. Sadly Breville still does not provide parts for their machines, and they are a pain to service the internals. I personally think this thing is a steal, and pretty handsome in person. I own the Lite version, in addition to a La Marzocco GS3, and I admittedly use this machine much more often, with extremely similar results.
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Jul 26, 2024 5:59 PM
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sshlykJul 26, 2024 5:59 PM
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Seattle coffee company was recently sold, and reviews are really bad now
Jul 26, 2024 6:00 PM
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xxswishxxJul 26, 2024 6:00 PM
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So this isn't for the Mr. Coffee crowd huh? 😂
Love me my drip coffee. It's luxury compared to kettle brewed camp fire coffee.
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Jul 26, 2024 6:13 PM
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TenseScene1475Jul 26, 2024 6:13 PM
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hx machine only offers tiny improvements to thermoblock machines... I'd rather spend couple of hundreds more to get machines with real boilers
Jul 26, 2024 6:19 PM
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alphawaveJul 26, 2024 6:19 PM
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Quote from sshlyk View quoted comment :
Seattle coffee company was recently sold, and reviews are really bad now
Reviews were never what I would call 'great' or that comprehensive. I'd trust user reviews more than a seller review.
Jul 26, 2024 6:20 PM
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bluetrepJul 26, 2024 6:20 PM
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is this E61 head?
Jul 26, 2024 6:30 PM
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alphawaveJul 26, 2024 6:30 PM
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Quote from bluetrep View quoted comment :
is this E61 head?
See? You had to ask...it looks like one but isn't...by design.

" A custom-designed 1000W, 1.5L steam boiler ensconces a calibrated brew coil that brings brew temperatures up to 165º. From there, a 200W cartridge heater built into the group brings your brew water up to its final temp—all actuated seamlessly with the twist of the brew paddle."

A frankenpaddle.

Edit: which another niggle...it's not even a paddle..there is NO pre-infusion, the 'paddle' is really an on/off switch.
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Jul 26, 2024 6:59 PM
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shmedJul 26, 2024 6:59 PM
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Quote from Triode View quoted comment :
Honestly, my Rocket broke down multiple times in 5 years while my prior basic Rancilio lasted over 10 with no issues. My repair guy says he sees more Apartamentos than anything else by a long shot. Also an absolute nightmare to open up. We finally moved on to a Quickmill and would never buy another Rocket.
To be fair, the Apartamento was Rocket's attempt at an affordable" E61 machine. When looking at Rocket's offering, it's the cheapest one with the lowest grade components they sell - not a great representation of their better products. I've been using an R58 daily for the last 6 years and never had a single problem with it.

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Jul 26, 2024 7:10 PM
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DiogenesofSinopeJul 26, 2024 7:10 PM
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For ~$900, one could get a Turin Legato espresso machine with PID, a DF54 grinder, and a bunch of accessories (tampers, knock box, cups...) and still have $$ left over for coffee.

https://espressooutlet.com/collec...so-machine
https://espressooutlet.com/collec...rr-grinder
Jul 26, 2024 7:16 PM
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ampguyJul 26, 2024 7:16 PM
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I've had a much less expensive crossland cc1 for the last 15 or more years. It's needed a couple of services, and upgrades, but the last 5 years have been uneventful. I keep it on a timer, with some upgraded filters and a vario grinder. Very pleased with it.
Jul 26, 2024 7:20 PM
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DiogenesofSinopeJul 26, 2024 7:20 PM
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Quote from Triode View quoted comment :
Honestly, my Rocket broke down multiple times in 5 years while my prior basic Rancilio lasted over 10 with no issues. My repair guy says he sees more Apartamentos than anything else by a long shot. Also an absolute nightmare to open up. We finally moved on to a Quickmill and would never buy another Rocket.
I have a Quick Mill Vetrano Dual Boiler PID which is on the upper range of the E61 machines.

There's this perception these machines are high quality but honestly, they are not. They look great but if one looks at the metal work carefully the quality control (fabrication, welding, fit and finish) is awful. The "electronics" inside are a kludge of wires and connectors with an off-the-shelf PID just bolted on. I opened mine up to install a shorter 20A line cord and just looking at it gave me a headache.

That all said... the E61 designs have been tweaked over the years so they've hammered out the problems. Parts are easy to come by and there are lots of maintenance instructions available online.

I'm keeping an eye on Odyssey Espresso, which I think is great engineering. They just need to hammer out the production issues and scale the volume.


https://www.odysseyespresso.com
Jul 26, 2024 7:22 PM
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Jul 26, 2024 7:54 PM
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jasonzk51Jul 26, 2024 7:54 PM
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Genuinely curious and just learning about coffee making, can someone explain why coffee machines are so expensive and how various technical specs (and costs) are actually related to various qualities of a good cup of coffee?
Jul 26, 2024 8:00 PM
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ToeJul 26, 2024 8:00 PM
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Quote from sshlyk View quoted comment :
Is this a good machine or just super inflated msrp to make us feel like we get a discount

It's getting hard to find a heat exchanger (like this) or dual boiler espresso machine under $1000 these days. Even at MSRP it's already low priced.
Jul 26, 2024 8:24 PM
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swass001Jul 26, 2024 8:24 PM
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Quote from DiogenesofSinope View quoted comment :
I have a Quick Mill Vetrano Dual Boiler PID which is on the upper range of the E61 machines.

There's this perception these machines are high quality but honestly, they are not. They look great but if one looks at the metal work carefully the quality control (fabrication, welding, fit and finish) is awful. The "electronics" inside are a kludge of wires and connectors with an off-the-shelf PID just bolted on. I opened mine up to install a shorter 20A line cord and just looking at it gave me a headache.

That all said... the E61 designs have been tweaked over the years so they've hammered out the problems. Parts are easy to come by and there are lots of maintenance instructions available online.

I'm keeping an eye on Odyssey Espresso, which I think is great engineering. They just need to hammer out the production issues and scale the volume.


https://www.odysseyespresso.com
If you want a tradition e61 with excellent build quality, ease of repair, wiring neatness, and quality control, look into the ECM Synchronika.

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Quote from pacman777 View quoted comment :
10 min heat up time? How is this better than a $400 Breville Bambino Plus with 10 second heat up time?
Thats like comparing xiaomi phones with iphones. This is heat exchanger, you can brew and steam together, steaming power will be good and most important, temperature on this machine will be constant​.
I had BBE in past and now upgraded to a heat exchanger. And even with Bambino you are supposed to wait till whole machine is warmed up.
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