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Stone Espresso Machines: Premium (Satin), Plus, or Mine (Black)

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$900 each

$1,699

Seattle Coffee Gear
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Seattle Coffee Gear has select Stone Espresso Machines on sale for $999.97 - 10% when you apply discount code REKSKJSD via checkout = $899.98 aach. Shipping is free.

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Available (price after code REKSKJSD applied via checkout):Product Details:
  • Each Model Includes:
    • Portafilter, Single Portafilter Basket, Double Portafilter Basket, Backflushing Basket, Tamper, Group Brush & Removable Side Panels

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  • About this deal:
    • These prices are $799.02 lower (47% savings) than the list price of $1699
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    • Includes 2 Year Seattle Coffee Gear Warranty
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Seattle Coffee Gear has select Stone Espresso Machines on sale for $999.97 - 10% when you apply discount code REKSKJSD via checkout = $899.98 aach. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Deal Hunter Navy-Wife for sharing this deal.

Available (price after code REKSKJSD applied via checkout):Product Details:
  • Each Model Includes:
    • Portafilter, Single Portafilter Basket, Double Portafilter Basket, Backflushing Basket, Tamper, Group Brush & Removable Side Panels

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Written by powerfuldoppler | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • These prices are $799.02 lower (47% savings) than the list price of $1699
    • Get 1%-5% cash back on deals like this with a cash back credit card. Compare the available cash back credit cards here.
    • Includes 2 Year Seattle Coffee Gear Warranty
    • Please see the original post for additional details & give the WIKI and additional forum comments a read for helpful discussion.

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seanleeforever
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Breville Bambino uses thermoblock, so it heats up water as it flows.
where as boiler machine heats up a pot of water. so it requires more energy, and therefor time.

but thermoblock has its issues, lots of issues if you aim for perfection: the temperature coming out of the thermoblock is inversely proportional to the speed of the flow. if you have a perfect flow, e,g, around 27 seconds for 1:2 ratio, then it works wonders, but if you flow differs, say it is bit too fast, then not only you take the penalty of under extraction due to fast flow, but also much lower temperature. so instead of be able to fix two variables out of three (grind size, temperature, time) and fine tune your drink one variable at a time, you are now moving two variables at the same time. this is extremely hard to do if you want consistent good taste of light roast coffee.

you don't have to take my word for it, got yourself a thermometer and test the water out of the Bambino (or anyother thermoblock machine), turn it on and just see the number jumps from 95 to 80 in no time. you would be lucky to have 15ml of water at desired temperature before it fluctuates

i personally have/had espresso machine priced from 200 dollar to 4000 dollars, i think the single most improvement one can do as far as espresso machine is concerned is to move to dual boiler with PID (so you do milk based drink much faster and better). but this been a HX at this price is probably as good as it goes. i won't mind getting it if i were to throw away my current setup
matt16148
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Personally I think the Bambino's 10 second heat up time is a gimmick because the portafilter is still cold. The water might be hot but my extraction is going to suck if the group robs all the heat away.
AquaStraw178
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Because that's not the whole story. 10 minutes means the entire system gets up to temperature, including the relatively large steam boiler, the group, and the portafilter. All this equates to impressively stable brewing temperatures and great steaming performance. No need to preheat the portafilter, and the water temperature coming out of the group is much more consistent, check out Kaffeemacher's review on youtube. It also goes without saying that the stone is extremely serviceable and can be maintained to run indefinitely. Sadly Breville still does not provide parts for their machines, and they are a pain to service the internals. I personally think this thing is a steal, and pretty handsome in person. I own the Lite version, in addition to a La Marzocco GS3, and I admittedly use this machine much more often, with extremely similar results.

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Jul 25, 2024 02:26 PM
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88noodlesJul 25, 2024 02:26 PM
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$999 on Amazon Stone Mine Espresso Machine, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BTR6X3JR
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pacman777Jul 25, 2024 06:26 PM
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10 min heat up time? How is this better than a $400 Breville Bambino Plus with 10 second heat up time?
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matt16148Jul 25, 2024 07:39 PM
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Quote from pacman777 :
10 min heat up time? How is this better than a $400 Breville Bambino Plus with 10 second heat up time?
Personally I think the Bambino's 10 second heat up time is a gimmick because the portafilter is still cold. The water might be hot but my extraction is going to suck if the group robs all the heat away.
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CarPartsPleaseJul 25, 2024 08:18 PM
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True but you can always run an empty water shot with the portafilter attached to heat it up. At least that's what I do if I'm in a rush with my BBE.
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AquaStraw178Jul 25, 2024 08:29 PM
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Quote from pacman777 :
10 min heat up time? How is this better than a $400 Breville Bambino Plus with 10 second heat up time?
Because that's not the whole story. 10 minutes means the entire system gets up to temperature, including the relatively large steam boiler, the group, and the portafilter. All this equates to impressively stable brewing temperatures and great steaming performance. No need to preheat the portafilter, and the water temperature coming out of the group is much more consistent, check out Kaffeemacher's review on youtube. It also goes without saying that the stone is extremely serviceable and can be maintained to run indefinitely. Sadly Breville still does not provide parts for their machines, and they are a pain to service the internals. I personally think this thing is a steal, and pretty handsome in person. I own the Lite version, in addition to a La Marzocco GS3, and I admittedly use this machine much more often, with extremely similar results.
Last edited by AquaStraw178 July 25, 2024 at 02:35 PM.
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dkd711Jul 25, 2024 08:32 PM
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Quote from matt16148 :
Personally I think the Bambino's 10 second heat up time is a gimmick because the portafilter is still cold. The water might be hot but my extraction is going to suck if the group robs all the heat away.
You're supposed to run a cycle to preheat it.
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youra6Jul 25, 2024 09:09 PM
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Quote from dkd711 :
You're supposed to run a cycle to preheat it.
This! I have to do same on my Barista Pro. I see a lot of people complain about the temps of their shots when they don't do this before hand.

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Quote from pacman777 :
10 min heat up time? How is this better than a $400 Breville Bambino Plus with 10 second heat up time?
Breville Bambino uses thermoblock, so it heats up water as it flows.
where as boiler machine heats up a pot of water. so it requires more energy, and therefor time.

but thermoblock has its issues, lots of issues if you aim for perfection: the temperature coming out of the thermoblock is inversely proportional to the speed of the flow. if you have a perfect flow, e,g, around 27 seconds for 1:2 ratio, then it works wonders, but if you flow differs, say it is bit too fast, then not only you take the penalty of under extraction due to fast flow, but also much lower temperature. so instead of be able to fix two variables out of three (grind size, temperature, time) and fine tune your drink one variable at a time, you are now moving two variables at the same time. this is extremely hard to do if you want consistent good taste of light roast coffee.

you don't have to take my word for it, got yourself a thermometer and test the water out of the Bambino (or anyother thermoblock machine), turn it on and just see the number jumps from 95 to 80 in no time. you would be lucky to have 15ml of water at desired temperature before it fluctuates

i personally have/had espresso machine priced from 200 dollar to 4000 dollars, i think the single most improvement one can do as far as espresso machine is concerned is to move to dual boiler with PID (so you do milk based drink much faster and better). but this been a HX at this price is probably as good as it goes. i won't mind getting it if i were to throw away my current setup
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realruggeddiyJul 25, 2024 11:45 PM
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Have any of you made the switch from Nespresso to one of these machines?
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Jul 26, 2024 12:42 AM
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sshlykJul 26, 2024 12:42 AM
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Is this a good machine or just super inflated msrp to make us feel like we get a discount
Jul 26, 2024 12:55 AM
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DtotheJtotheHJul 26, 2024 12:55 AM
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Quote from pacman777 :
10 min heat up time? How is this better than a $400 Breville Bambino Plus with 10 second heat up time?
58mm group head vs 54mm

Heat exchanger vs thermoblock

Metal build vs plastic

Not setup at 15 bar

(I have a Breville Barista Express, which is similar to the bambino, and this seems like quite an upgrade)
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alphawaveJul 26, 2024 01:16 AM
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This appears to be a 'style' brand aimed at younger buyers fixated on decor. At least the parentage of Rocket/ECM means its capable, but I question 10 minutes for temp stability of all that brass, which appears/tries to mimic an E61 group. Also pointing out you'll need a mid to high dollar grinder to get this machine close to its potential.


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TimgusNJul 26, 2024 02:47 AM
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Quote from sshlyk :
Is this a good machine or just super inflated msrp to make us feel like we get a discount
It's not a super inflated MSRP in my opinion. it's in line with other machines in that price point, I just think the machine wasn't as popular as the creators expected so it's probably getting discounted and eventually clearanced out.

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