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frontpageNavy-Wife | Staff posted Jul 25, 2024 12:59 AM
Stone Espresso Machines: Premium (Satin), Plus, or Mine (Black)
$900 each
$1,699
+ Free Shippingat Seattle Coffee Gear
+ Free Shippingat Seattle Coffee GearDeal Details
Seattle Coffee Gear has select Stone Espresso Machines on sale for $999.97 - 10% when you apply discount code REKSKJSD via checkout = $899.98 aach. Shipping is free.
Thanks to Deal Hunter Navy-Wife for sharing this deal.
Available (price after code REKSKJSD applied via checkout):
Thanks to Deal Hunter Navy-Wife for sharing this deal.
Available (price after code REKSKJSD applied via checkout):
- Stone Premium Espresso Machine (Satin) $899.98
- Stone Plus Espresso Machine $899.98
- Stone Mine Espresso Machine (Black) $899.98
- Each Model Includes:
- Portafilter, Single Portafilter Basket, Double Portafilter Basket, Backflushing Basket, Tamper, Group Brush & Removable Side Panels
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Written by powerfuldoppler | Staff- About this deal:
- These prices are $799.02 lower (47% savings) than the list price of $1699
- Get 1%-5% cash back on deals like this with a cash back credit card. Compare the available cash back credit cards here.
- Includes 2 Year Seattle Coffee Gear Warranty
- Please see the original post for additional details & give the WIKI and additional forum comments a read for helpful discussion.
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Seattle Coffee Gear has select Stone Espresso Machines on sale for $999.97 - 10% when you apply discount code REKSKJSD via checkout = $899.98 aach. Shipping is free.
Thanks to Deal Hunter Navy-Wife for sharing this deal.
Available (price after code REKSKJSD applied via checkout):
Thanks to Deal Hunter Navy-Wife for sharing this deal.
Available (price after code REKSKJSD applied via checkout):
- Stone Premium Espresso Machine (Satin) $899.98
- Stone Plus Espresso Machine $899.98
- Stone Mine Espresso Machine (Black) $899.98
- Each Model Includes:
- Portafilter, Single Portafilter Basket, Double Portafilter Basket, Backflushing Basket, Tamper, Group Brush & Removable Side Panels
Editor's Notes
Written by powerfuldoppler | Staff- About this deal:
- These prices are $799.02 lower (47% savings) than the list price of $1699
- Get 1%-5% cash back on deals like this with a cash back credit card. Compare the available cash back credit cards here.
- Includes 2 Year Seattle Coffee Gear Warranty
- Please see the original post for additional details & give the WIKI and additional forum comments a read for helpful discussion.
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where as boiler machine heats up a pot of water. so it requires more energy, and therefor time.
but thermoblock has its issues, lots of issues if you aim for perfection: the temperature coming out of the thermoblock is inversely proportional to the speed of the flow. if you have a perfect flow, e,g, around 27 seconds for 1:2 ratio, then it works wonders, but if you flow differs, say it is bit too fast, then not only you take the penalty of under extraction due to fast flow, but also much lower temperature. so instead of be able to fix two variables out of three (grind size, temperature, time) and fine tune your drink one variable at a time, you are now moving two variables at the same time. this is extremely hard to do if you want consistent good taste of light roast coffee.
you don't have to take my word for it, got yourself a thermometer and test the water out of the Bambino (or anyother thermoblock machine), turn it on and just see the number jumps from 95 to 80 in no time. you would be lucky to have 15ml of water at desired temperature before it fluctuates
i personally have/had espresso machine priced from 200 dollar to 4000 dollars, i think the single most improvement one can do as far as espresso machine is concerned is to move to dual boiler with PID (so you do milk based drink much faster and better). but this been a HX at this price is probably as good as it goes. i won't mind getting it if i were to throw away my current setup
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For anyone who likes steamed milk drinks, a thermoblock is invariably a source of disappointment. Been there, done that many times. I ultimately had to spend a lot of money to get a machine that could produce good microfoam.
Apart from skill, the most significant factor in making good coffee is using freshly roasted beans. No matter how good your machine is, store-bought coffee will always lead to subpar espresso. Freshly roasted coffee is essential.
Next, the grinder plays a crucial role. The more uniform the grind, the better the quality of the espresso. The espresso machine is certainly important, but it comes last in the hierarchy of factors.
Now, focusing on the equipment: you can make an equally good cup of coffee with a standard machine like the Bambino compared to this entry-level prosumer machine. What these higher-end machines offer over entry-level models are numerous quality-of-life features, such as:
- The ability to steam and brew simultaneously.
- The capability to maintain a constant temperature, which is critical for a good cup.
- Higher steaming power
- A more aesthetically pleasing design, among other features.
And why these machines are so expensive, mostly because these are high-precision machines made with high-quality materials. A good espresso machine can last for more than 10 years with proper maintenance. Being a niche product also contributes to their higher cost, as they cater to a specific market willing to invest in premium coffee equipment.Nothing against you personally but the discussions going on in this thread is very interesting to say to least.
For example, how are people even comparing single boilers and thermoblock to HX? Is the workflow even comparable? The point of HX is it doesn't cost as much as dual boiler but technically allows you to steam drinks with good power very fast and efficiently back to back, which a single boiler or bambino cannot do.
The real concerns I have for this machine is the real of lack high quality reviewers out there testing this machine.
There's this perception these machines are high quality but honestly, they are not. They look great but if one looks at the metal work carefully the quality control (fabrication, welding, fit and finish) is awful. The "electronics" inside are a kludge of wires and connectors with an off-the-shelf PID just bolted on. I opened mine up to install a shorter 20A line cord and just looking at it gave me a headache.
That all said... the E61 designs have been tweaked over the years so they've hammered out the problems. Parts are easy to come by and there are lots of maintenance instructions available online.
I'm keeping an eye on Odyssey Espresso, which I think is great engineering. They just need to hammer out the production issues and scale the volume.
https://www.odysseyespr
my Evo 2B had some just the wildest assembly issues such as... they put the silicon gasket in the water tank the wrong way that causes a slow leak. or that some of the wiring aren't fixed in place, or the noise dampening pad isn't glued properly. i also had to replace the pressure gauge as it was broken right off the bat. i think i have completely dissembled my system no less than 2 times.
but if you go with, say Breville (which i also had), you will be presented a different problem: it is all plastic inside, open the machines for parts replacements (solenoid pump have a finite life span) are pain in the ass because those machines are not meant to be serviceable.
so at the end, i tent to stick with a machine that i can fix. I would actually want to get the parts and build one myself, so i know everything is put in right.
It does not have, however, an E61 group head for those who care.
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It does not have, however, an E61 group head for those who care.
BTW I bought a used Londinium L1 a few years back for exactly $1000. Buying a used known-good machine locally could be a better bet.
Apart from skill, the most significant factor in making good coffee is using freshly roasted beans. No matter how good your machine is, store-bought coffee will always lead to subpar espresso. Freshly roasted coffee is essential.
Next, the grinder plays a crucial role. The more uniform the grind, the better the quality of the espresso. The espresso machine is certainly important, but it comes last in the hierarchy of factors.
Now, focusing on the equipment: you can make an equally good cup of coffee with a standard machine like the Bambino compared to this entry-level prosumer machine. What these higher-end machines offer over entry-level models are numerous quality-of-life features, such as:
- The ability to steam and brew simultaneously.
- The capability to maintain a constant temperature, which is critical for a good cup.
- Higher steaming power
- A more aesthetically pleasing design, among other features.
And why these machines are so expensive, mostly because these are high-precision machines made with high-quality materials. A good espresso machine can last for more than 10 years with proper maintenance. Being a niche product also contributes to their higher cost, as they cater to a specific market willing to invest in premium coffee equipment.BTW, if you're an advocate for the E61 group, I'm guessing you're not as long and deep into this game as me. Flow control on the E61 is almost an oxymoron.
FYI I started from a lowly Krupps machine, spent many thousands up and down the range, and ended with a simple lever. It's a fun hobby that can last decades, but eventually I just wanted a good cup of coffee without the PhD thesis. Many people start and end with just wanting a good cup of coffee. This machine might be it, but without solid reviews, we can't know.
And please don't get pissy. I have no opinions I will not change immediately to avoid an argument.
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BTW, if you're an advocate for the E61 group, I'm guessing you're not as long and deep into this game as me. Flow control on the E61 is almost an oxymoron.
FYI I started from a lowly Krupps machine, spent many thousands up and down the range, and ended with a simple lever. It's a fun hobby that can last decades, but eventually I just wanted a good cup of coffee without the PhD thesis. Many people start and end with just wanting a good cup of coffee. This machine might be it, but without solid reviews, we can't know.
And please don't get pissy. I have no opinions I will not change immediately to avoid an argument.
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