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Refurbished EOS Rebel T100 EF-S 18-55MM F/3.5-5.6 III Lens Kit $199

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Jul 27, 2024 09:45 PM
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sil3nt71Jul 27, 2024 09:45 PM
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This a good way to get into DSLRs?
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Quote from seanleeforever :
Dslr are been phased out. Why do you want to get in on that if you want to start something new
What's replacing them?
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CorrosiveJul 27, 2024 10:13 PM
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What's replacing them?
Mirrorless
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LavenderPickle7682Jul 27, 2024 10:16 PM
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Quote from sil3nt71 :
This a good way to get into DSLRs?
Oh goodness no.

First of all, DSLRs are essentially dead. That doesn't mean they magically don't take great images if you own one -- but pretty much every manufacturer has moved onto Mirrorless technology at this point.

There's not much reason to get NEW old tech when updated tech is available.

Furthermore, this isn't a good camera to get started with. It's a bargain basement, entry-level DSLR. Which actually performs pretty decently for being so low-tier. But the issue is, if you're getting into DSLRs, you might want to control your exposure (aperture, shutter, ISO). This model is awful at that -- as most of those settings are buried in menus. These entry-level DSLRs tend to favor "automatic creative modes", which do all the thinking for you. A large-sized glorified mobile phone camera. Even entry-level Mirrorless are like that (Canon R100 and R50).

(and this is saying nothing about that average kit lens that's included)

For $200, you can get several alternatives that actually ARE great DSLR cameras that will help you learn proper exposure. Nikon D300. Canon 5D classic (mk 1). Canon 7D (Mk I or II). They're somewhat old, but that means inexpensive used copies are everywhere -- and they're simple. Very few (if any) fully automatic creative modes on them, and all the manual controls are exposed and easily accessed.

Once you're able to clearly articulate HOW those older cameras don't let you capture specific shots, then you can go ahead and buy in the tech you need.
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KithkinJul 27, 2024 11:15 PM
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I wouldn't recommend a used 5D Classic or any DSLR to a new person. There are plenty of used mirrorless options available, and mirrorless cameras don't have as much of a focus learning curve.

The big benefit is they focus on the sensor, not via an array of offsets that varies from lens to lens. So you don't have to wonder if a lens is bad or just miscalibrated on a mirrorless camera

And because of that, good autofocus across most of the sensor is the default. I'm sure there are some that only have a handful of focusing points, nobody should be learning to focus and reframe when starting out these days.

But definitely agree with manual controls. If you're interested in a real camera and want to learn how photography works, get one with at least one dial—ideally two. I'm full manual, so I want a dial each for iso, shutter and aperture, but most people should set iso to auto with a ceiling, and learn shutter or aperture priority, and then go manual. You can learn what those three settings do on a camera without any dials (and those are the only settings that actually matter [well, white balance if you're not shooting raw]), but if you're trying to get a photo with any time pressure, you don't want to deal with a touch screen.
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Quote from LavenderPickle7682 :
Oh goodness no.

First of all, DSLRs are essentially dead. That doesn't mean they magically don't take great images if you own one -- but pretty much every manufacturer has moved onto Mirrorless technology at this point.

There's not much reason to get NEW old tech when updated tech is available.

Furthermore, this isn't a good camera to get started with. It's a bargain basement, entry-level DSLR. Which actually performs pretty decently for being so low-tier. But the issue is, if you're getting into DSLRs, you might want to control your exposure (aperture, shutter, ISO). This model is awful at that -- as most of those settings are buried in menus. These entry-level DSLRs tend to favor "automatic creative modes", which do all the thinking for you. A large-sized glorified mobile phone camera. Even entry-level Mirrorless are like that (Canon R100 and R50).

(and this is saying nothing about that average kit lens that's included)

For $200, you can get several alternatives that actually ARE great DSLR cameras that will help you learn proper exposure. Nikon D300. Canon 5D classic (mk 1). Canon 7D (Mk I or II). They're somewhat old, but that means inexpensive used copies are everywhere -- and they're simple. Very few (if any) fully automatic creative modes on them, and all the manual controls are exposed and easily accessed.

Once you're able to clearly articulate HOW those older cameras don't let you capture specific shots, then you can go ahead and buy in the tech you need.
I had a T100 once. You don't have to go diving deep into menus to set basic settings like aperture, shutter and ISO. You're being dramatic and incorrect at the same time.
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LavenderPickle7682Jul 28, 2024 12:35 AM
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Quote from SDBuddy :
I had a T100 once. You don't have to go diving deep into menus to set basic settings like aperture, shutter and ISO. You're being dramatic and incorrect at the same time.
Can you change the ISO, shutter, and aperture without taking your eye away from the viewfinder? Probably not, with these consumer entry-level DSLRs/Mirrorless.
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Quote from LavenderPickle7682 :
Can you change the ISO, shutter, and aperture without taking your eye away from the viewfinder? Probably not, with these consumer entry-level DSLRs/Mirrorless.
No. And that's a different statement now. I'm sure the rest of the earlier points were good. I just wanted to counter the incorrect part. Have a good one.
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LavenderPickle7682Jul 28, 2024 02:46 AM
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Quote from SDBuddy :
No. And that's a different statement now. I'm sure the rest of the earlier points were good. I just wanted to counter the incorrect part. Have a good one.
If it's not accessible without moving your eye from the viewfinder, then it's buried in a menu. I don't see how that's hard to understand, but eh, you're arguing about entry level DSLRS, so lol buddy take care.
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SDBuddyJul 28, 2024 02:51 AM
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Quote from LavenderPickle7682 :
If it's not accessible without moving your eye from the viewfinder, then it's buried in a menu. I don't see how that's hard to understand, but eh, you're arguing about entry level DSLRS, so lol buddy take care.
Ok, I'll take the bait to answer because someone here is new to cameras. There is an immediate on-screen configuration. That is not buried in menus. There are, in fact, actual menus placed in tabs for less changed configurations. First, you changed the question, and now you are debating the semantics of menus. But I see your point or perspective is whether you have to remove yourself from the viewfinder. That would have been clearer if that was your original wording in the first comment. But we understand your perspective.

Can he get that feature you prefer for $200 or less? (honest question) Or is it $250 or more? I sold my T100 to a student who had little to spend, and for $150. Some cannot yield more than $200 but would love to explore photography beyond the mobile phone.
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