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Costco Members: Ecoflow Delta Pro Ultra Whole-Home Power Solution (18 KWH Solution)

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Costco Wholesale has for their Members: Ecoflow Delta Pro Ultra Whole-Home Power Solution (18 KWH Solution) for the prices listed. Shipping is free.

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  • Ecoflow Delta Pro Ultra Whole-Home Power Solution (18 KWH Solution) $7999.99
  • Ecoflow Delta Pro Ultra Whole-Home Power Solution w/ Panel (18 KWH Solution) $8999.99
Features:
  • Scalable 18 kWh Solution Provides Up to a Week of Essential Power Supply
  • Exceptional 7200w Output Powers Most Household Appliances at 120v or 240v
  • Super-fast Charge Up to 8800w by Combining Solar and AC
  • Online Ups Ensures 0-ms Transfer Time, Offering Constant Protection for Sensitive Devices
  • Long-lasting 10-year LFP Battery for Reliable Performance

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  • About this deal:
    • This price is $1000 lower (11% savings) than the list price of $8999.99
    • $1,000 manufacturer's savings is valid 8/1/24 through 9/1/24. While supplies last. Limit 5 per member.
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    • Rating of 4.1 from over 20 customer reviews.

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Costco Wholesale has for their Members: Ecoflow Delta Pro Ultra Whole-Home Power Solution (18 KWH Solution) for the prices listed. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member gspfunk for finding this deal.

Available:
  • Ecoflow Delta Pro Ultra Whole-Home Power Solution (18 KWH Solution) $7999.99
  • Ecoflow Delta Pro Ultra Whole-Home Power Solution w/ Panel (18 KWH Solution) $8999.99
Features:
  • Scalable 18 kWh Solution Provides Up to a Week of Essential Power Supply
  • Exceptional 7200w Output Powers Most Household Appliances at 120v or 240v
  • Super-fast Charge Up to 8800w by Combining Solar and AC
  • Online Ups Ensures 0-ms Transfer Time, Offering Constant Protection for Sensitive Devices
  • Long-lasting 10-year LFP Battery for Reliable Performance

Editor's Notes

Written by StrawMan86 | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • This price is $1000 lower (11% savings) than the list price of $8999.99
    • $1,000 manufacturer's savings is valid 8/1/24 through 9/1/24. While supplies last. Limit 5 per member.
    • Get 1%-5% cash back on deals like this with a cash back credit card. Compare the available cash back credit cards here.
  • About this product:
    • Rating of 4.1 from over 20 customer reviews.

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vnangia
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I got this last time (without the panel) and am overall reasonably pleased with it, though the promised trolley still hasn't arrived. I do recommend strongly you have a plan to integrate it with your house before you buy it. I am stuck trying to integrate it since I have an older house and panel with limited options to hook up a essential load panel and so on.

In retrospect, I might have chosen to go down a different path now that I know all of this, and am still debating returning it and replacing it with a DIY solar PV system, but it's not for the lack of quality but logistics for my particular house, and what I'm trying to achieve with it. Otherwise, it's an extraordinary device.
Covvie
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I got the 12 kWh version and overall I am pretty pleased with it but there are some issues.

I tried using the 0 ms online UPS port to power my network & server stack directly, removing my normal UPS from the path, and few days later got a notice that the NAS had unexpectedly rebooted. Looked and found that the entire network & server stack had unexpectedly rebooted, meaning that the online UPS port briefly went offline for some reason. I've split the load across the online & standby ports to see if it happens again and so far it hasn't, so I don't know what caused it to happen. It might be load related, might be linked to the fact I was only using an online port & not the standby ports, or it might have been a one time thing due to some combination of those.

The other annoying point is that the scheduling for time of use/time shifting is half baked at best. It is only possible to create a single schedule, which doesn't sound bad but is extremely frustrating if you want to have different schedules on different days. In my case I need a M-F schedule, the days I have mixed on peak/off peak power rates, and then a Sat-Sun schedule when the entire day is off peak. That simply isn't possible to do. Creating the M-F schedule entry works, but then it is impossible to add another entry for Sat-Sun. With just the M-F schedule the system shifts to battery only mode on Saturday and only pulls from the AC input when the battery is drained to the configured minimum level. To make M-F work, and still have it use the AC input most of the time on Sat-Sun, I had to create a single entry that says I have a peak power charge every day. So even on the two days where I don't need to power shift I have to because I want to power shift the five other days.

Oh, and setting up as "time of use" had its own problems of running on battery even though the app dashboard said it was supposed to be charging the battery. Supposedly there was a bug about it using UTC instead of the local time zone, but I'm not sure that was what was happening. It might have been because when I finally left it alone for a day or so it did seem to finally sync up with what the dashboard said should be happening. At least mostly, since the same single schedule problem above exists and it still went into battery only mode.
kalieaire
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Have you joined the EcoFlow DELTA Series Official facebook group?

Regarding hookup, I figure you can just install a standard transfer switch with interlock or a GenerLink. That would be the best way without the SHP2.

The Smart Home Panel 2 has some potential issues. If there's a problem with the relays, they're integrated, so you'd have to replace the entire panel. If you use a transfer switch with interlock, you can power everything (your main panel) through your Delta Pro Ultra and then connect the DPU to your service panel.

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Aug 03, 2024 03:27 AM
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PowerClerkAug 03, 2024 03:27 AM
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Buy a Powerwall 3 instead of this. The software, integrated power electronics, thermal efficiency, and finally the UI experience are superior.

And, if you happen to have solar or are planning to get it, then it has a built-in 11.5kW inverter, which is enough to power 95% of homes (with a single unit).
Last edited by PowerClerk August 3, 2024 at 07:29 AM.
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Aug 03, 2024 03:29 AM
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SlickEnoughAug 03, 2024 03:29 AM
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Quote from DmitriyM7540 :
Will this charge an iPhone?
Good question. Try plugging ur phone up the dark hole between your legs. Don't forget to report back. 😂
Aug 03, 2024 03:31 AM
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SlickEnoughAug 03, 2024 03:31 AM
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Quote from PowerClerk :
Buy a Powerwall 3 instead of this.
I'm looking for SDGE time shift. Tell us more why power wall 3 is the better answer?
Aug 03, 2024 03:34 AM
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arbitragerAug 03, 2024 03:34 AM
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Quote from SlickEnough :
I'm looking for SDGE time shift. Tell us more why power wall 3 is the better answer?
To show off by paying 2x-3x more for the "Tesla" name
Aug 03, 2024 03:38 AM
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gfresh35Aug 03, 2024 03:38 AM
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I pulled the trigger last time when the 12kwh had this deal (May 30th). Does anyone know if I can buy this and return the 12kwh order? That way I get another battery for $2k.

Just for info. I also bought the smart home panel 2 last time and it's been working decent. I had 2 EF delta pro, but for some reason they aren't working with my SHP2 (trouble shooting with EF currently, they are slooooow). For some reason TOU is not working for me. I have PG&E, so I just use time of use, which is does the job as I only have peak and off peak rates. The app advice you to only charge the battery to 90% and only allows you to set 10% as the lowest to preserve for backup. So for 18kwh, you only get 14.4kwh to be used during peak hour.
Aug 03, 2024 03:39 AM
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LivninSCAug 03, 2024 03:39 AM
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Quote from SlickEnough :
I'm looking for SDGE time shift. Tell us more why power wall 3 is the better answer?
It only is if you want to pay more so some narcistic dbag can become even richer and plan (cuz we all know it won't realistically happen in his lifetime) to leave the rest of us here on the planet we all were born on.

PW's were a great deal for a while. So great that Tesla took deposits from thousands of us yet they didn't deliver the hardware years after they said they would. These days I honestly don't know why anyone would buy a PW given their less than desirable cost or battery chemistry when there are cheaper (per kWh) and better long term battery chemistry available. It's like people that do buy them want to make sure everyone knows they were gouged for an inferior product so that they could feed some excess $ to some massive insanely rich dbag... Bravo!
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Aug 03, 2024 03:41 AM
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CovvieAug 03, 2024 03:41 AM
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Quote from CoolChicken9796 :
Yup.. I'm fully planning to hard wire it with a high amperage circuit. I'm not too sure if ecoflow by default only charges with a 15 A input. Is this correct?
According to the specs on the manual page [ecoflow.com] the AC input supports 120V/15A and 240V/12.5A, however there is also a big Caution block:
Quote :
Keep the AC power button off while recharging the product through a high-voltage wall outlet.
There is no other explanation beyond that warning, so I don't know exactly why they have that warning. My guess is that is is due to the X-Fusion bit that is supposed to bypass the inverter (for the standby ports; online ports always pull from battery) when AC input is available, meaning that it effectively directly connects the 120V standby output ports to the AC input port. If the AC input is 240V instead of 120V, anything plugged into those ports might get fed 240V and go poof. That's just a guess based on the behavior I've seen on the standby vs online ports. It is possible to overload the 120V AC input using the standby ports, which triggers an error on the unit and briefly shuts off the AC input for about 30 seconds. That behavior doesn't occur when using the online ports since those always pull directly from battery.

Also, since the caution is explicitly referencing the AC input I suspect that it may not apply to the EV charging adapter since that uses a different input on the side of the inverter. That's just a guess; I don't know for sure so if you are planning to use 240V I recommend reaching out to support for clarification.

edit: X-Path should have been X-Fusion (I forgot what they called their bypass)
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Aug 03, 2024 04:13 AM
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user1121345Aug 03, 2024 04:13 AM
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Quote from SlickDealzYo :
I wish they had the 12kwh package at $6k (Costco did this before) or the 6kwh at $3k (like the home depot deal) but I've never seen them offer the 6kwh ultra package at Costco. 18kwh at $8k is not bad but i don't need this large of a capacity. the wait continues...
Any suggestions on how best to calculate the capacity needed? Trying to help an elderly family member out with either this or a generator and have no idea where to start figuring out even what output is needed for a generator, let alone capacity for something like this.
Aug 03, 2024 04:18 AM
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PowerClerkAug 03, 2024 04:18 AM
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Quote from arbitrager :
To show off by paying 2x-3x more for the "Tesla" name
To show off? Hardly

To pay 2-3x more? lol - you are VERY misinformed.
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Aug 03, 2024 04:21 AM
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trifirstAug 03, 2024 04:21 AM
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Quote from CoolChicken9796 :
I have cheap power from 12AM-6AM. At 12c/ kwh This is when I charge my electric car. Can I back up (fill up) this 18 kWh every night and use it during the day. For context my non- peak charge is 45c and peak is 65c.
By default u can charge the dpu at 12.5a at 240v so about 3kwh, times 6 hours and theoretically u can get 18kwh but in reality probably will take longer than 6 hours if its completely drained.

They sell an x-stream adapter that allows u to charge at 30a at 240v so about 7.2kwh which would be more than sufficient to get 18kwh every day - theoretically u could get a little over 40kwh each nigh during those 6 hours.

If u could add a little bit solar u may be able to reach roi sooner.

Also I haven't found the round trip efficiency of the EcoFlow products all that great. The inverter and WiFi connection use power at idle and larger loads generate more heat etc. Depending on the use case you may only get about 80% efficiently meaning for every kWh u feed it you get .8kwh usable.
Aug 03, 2024 04:46 AM
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BigTonyTonesAug 03, 2024 04:46 AM
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Just want to tell the story of what just literally happend to me. SCE power just went out in the neighborhood for almost 2 hours. We had people over. Luckily I have a nice 3000w honda inverter generator with propane conversion. Started up instantly and powered the whole house with it. First time iv ever used it in the 9 years iv owned it. My wife now thinks im a hero. But it definitely makes me want batteries even more now.
Aug 03, 2024 04:55 AM
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CovvieAug 03, 2024 04:55 AM
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Quote from trifirst :
If u could add a little bit solar u may be able to reach roi sooner.

Also I haven't found the round trip efficiency of the EcoFlow products all that great. The inverter and WiFi connection use power at idle and larger loads generate more heat etc. Depending on the use case you may only get about 80% efficiently meaning for every kWh u feed it you get .8kwh usable.
When I was measuring the power draw and noticed that I forgot to factor in the inverter conversion loss, I realized that it would really, really benefit from even a little bit of solar to help offset that inverter loss. I wanted to try it using a(barely) portable 400W panel until I realized that it wasn't really feasible due to a) my building location, and b) HOA restrictions. I would have had to set it up & take it down every day, and even then I would only get a few hours of direct sunlight due to how the building faces & tree coverage.

I'm not sure what the wifi power draw is but it can be disabled and switched back to bluetooth mode by doing the wifi reset, although that process requires unplugging & shutting the inverter off (it can not be turned off if it sees AC input). No idea what, if any, power savings there may be for bluetooth versus wifi. I've used both modes and didn't notice much of a difference between the two in my power monitoring system, so probably not much benefit. I think most of the conversion loss/internal power draw is from the inverter itself since it is always pulling from the battery to some degree due to the online UPS ports (assuming the AC output is on).
Aug 03, 2024 05:00 AM
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BigTonyTonesAug 03, 2024 05:00 AM
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Quote from LivninSC :
It only is if you want to pay more so some narcistic dbag can become even richer and plan (cuz we all know it won't realistically happen in his lifetime) to leave the rest of us here on the planet we all were born on.

PW's were a great deal for a while. So great that Tesla took deposits from thousands of us yet they didn't deliver the hardware years after they said they would. These days I honestly don't know why anyone would buy a PW given their less than desirable cost or battery chemistry when there are cheaper (per kWh) and better long term battery chemistry available. It's like people that do buy them want to make sure everyone knows they were gouged for an inferior product so that they could feed some excess $ to some massive insanely rich dbag... Bravo!
I used to be an elon fan but not lately. Especially with how many lies he spills out .
But anyways the tesla powerwall system is actually pretty nice and I believe the lowest cost per kw unless you want to go with sometihng like eg4 batteries.
Telsas system also seems to be the one integrating with the power companies (selling back power when they need it) Not sure if other manufacturers have that.
Aug 03, 2024 05:26 AM
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nxw152Aug 03, 2024 05:26 AM
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Quote from gfresh35 :
I pulled the trigger last time when the 12kwh had this deal (May 30th). Does anyone know if I can buy this and return the 12kwh order? That way I get another battery for $2k.

Just for info. I also bought the smart home panel 2 last time and it's been working decent. I had 2 EF delta pro, but for some reason they aren't working with my SHP2 (trouble shooting with EF currently, they are slooooow). For some reason TOU is not working for me. I have PG&E, so I just use time of use, which is does the job as I only have peak and off peak rates. The app advice you to only charge the battery to 90% and only allows you to set 10% as the lowest to preserve for backup. So for 18kwh, you only get 14.4kwh to be used during peak hour.
oops I clicked the wrong msg
costco should have no problem accepting the return
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SlickEnoughAug 03, 2024 07:05 AM
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Quote from PowerClerk :
To show off? Hardly

To pay 2-3x more? lol - you are VERY misinformed.
Respectfully, your response triggered this quote to come fwd in my mind "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
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