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Linksys LN1301 Tri-Band WiFi Router $25 + Free Shipping

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Woot via Amazon [amazon.com] has Linksys LN1301 Tri-Band WiFi Router on sale for $24.99. Shipping is Free.
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Model: Linksys LN1301 WiFi Router - Tri-Band WiFi - Plug-n-Play Setup - Covers up to 2700 sq. ft. - Speed up tp 4.2 Gbps - Handles 40+ Devices

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Aug 07, 2024 09:21 AM
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frollicAug 07, 2024 09:21 AM
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Quote from wivpinata :
but people go out of their way to buy mesh systems with 6ghz backhaul. The lack of congestion combined with being able to add nodes with mesh and alleviate the problem of range has made those systems into desirable products for a lot of people.
6GHz back haul doesn't help much if the 2,4 and 5 GHz channels are packed with other networks.
Sure, node intercommunication is blazing fast, but the user bands aren't.
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Aug 07, 2024 11:17 AM
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nebugeaterAug 07, 2024 11:17 AM
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Quote from Fangolio :
Tri-Band? So a third band apart from 2.4 and 5? What is it?
I belive the third band is to communicate between multiple devices if they are tri band so that the band with is not used / shared with your devices using the node
Aug 07, 2024 12:53 PM
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wivpinataAug 07, 2024 12:53 PM
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Quote from frollic :
6GHz back haul doesn't help much if the 2,4 and 5 GHz channels are packed with other networks.
Sure, node intercommunication is blazing fast, but the user bands aren't.
The alternative is increasing the congestion on those 2.4 ghz or 5 ghz bands with backhaul there, or getting systems that support simultaneous 6 ghz backhaul and access point mode + devices I suppose.

You don't even need to have heavy congestion for 6 ghz backhaul to be useful. There really aren't a lot of bands once you start utilizing 80 mhz or 40 mhz channels in the 5 ghz spectrum. If you want to maximize speed and coverage on those bands, it's useful to not waste bandwidth on backhaul there.
Aug 07, 2024 01:46 PM
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TimlessAug 07, 2024 01:46 PM
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Quote from 1wondershow :
Just a warning to everyone, lynksys does not want to honor the warranty advertised on woot.com. I'm currently waiting for an email or call back from both an online chat and a phone call. All I need is a new power supply and im having trouble.
oh yea. these probably have zero warranty outside of woot/walmart return policy.
Aug 07, 2024 09:41 PM
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tiankongAug 07, 2024 09:41 PM
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Quote from Shawndak07 :
It works for me in the app. I was even able to add a mx4200 as a child node mesh.
How do you add mx4200 as child node?
Aug 07, 2024 10:19 PM
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Shawndak07Aug 07, 2024 10:19 PM
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Quote from wivpinata :
Things change pretty quick. I've never gone out of my way to buy 6ghz devices, but already my firestick, my computer, my phone, and my TV all support it. That's kind of how things happen with wifi for me.

The killer feature of 6ghz to me is all the extra spectrum that it has. You mentioned backhaul. I don't know if you know this, I assume not based on your comment, but people go out of their way to buy mesh systems with 6ghz backhaul. The lack of congestion combined with being able to add nodes with mesh and alleviate the problem of range has made those systems into desirable products for a lot of people.

All that said, I think your overall sentiment isn't wrong. Most people don't need it. I'm not running out to replace my stuff yet. These Linksys routers are a great value. I ordered three of them before I wrote my comment. I wasn't trashing them. I was only pointing out factors for why these aren't going to fly off the shelves if Linksys wanted to try to market and sell them as high end routers today rather than what they've done in essentially writing them off. They didn't decide to stop selling routers. They've moved on to new products.
Yeah I agree with your statements. Well illustrated. I literally don't have a single 6ghz device and only a few AX. I actually have quite a bit of spectrum let on 5ghz and even 2.4ghz. I have a 1/2 acre lot so that helps. 6ghz backhaul would be virtually useless not to mention the 5ghz signal barely goes through anything. A floor and a single wall in my house can drop 5g to borderline unusable. 6ghz would be worse. I'd rather backhaul over Ethernet honestly.
Last edited by Shawndak07 August 7, 2024 at 03:22 PM.
Aug 07, 2024 10:23 PM
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Shawndak07Aug 07, 2024 10:23 PM
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Quote from tiankong :
How do you add mx4200 as child node?
I did it in my Linksys app on my android. No issues at all.

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Aug 08, 2024 12:17 AM
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ElatedSummer9477Aug 08, 2024 12:17 AM
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$34.99 tag price? routers tend to be much more expensive than that
Aug 08, 2024 02:03 AM
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1wondershowAug 08, 2024 02:03 AM
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Quote from Timless :
oh yea. these probably have zero warranty outside of woot/walmart return policy.
on the ones i bought they advertised 90 lynksys warranty.
Aug 09, 2024 02:07 AM
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dun4cheapAug 09, 2024 02:07 AM
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Quote from amart565 :
Any idea if this has AP mode ?
Yes it does and works through the linksys app. You can also separate the wifi band SSIDS from the webif but not the linksys app.
Last edited by dun4cheap August 8, 2024 at 10:44 PM.
Aug 09, 2024 02:15 AM
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dun4cheapAug 09, 2024 02:15 AM
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Quote from sr27 :
Got one. It works great as a standalone. The AX improved the WiFi speed noticeably.

One trick is to create a separate networks for 2.5 and 5 hz and connect to just one. Otherwise the devices needlessly try to switch and cause response lag.
How were you able to split the 2.4 and 5ghz. I do not see this setting at all. Ln1301
Aug 09, 2024 02:19 AM
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wivpinataAug 09, 2024 02:19 AM
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Quote from Shawndak07 :
Yeah I agree with your statements. Well illustrated. I literally don't have a single 6ghz device and only a few AX. I actually have quite a bit of spectrum let on 5ghz and even 2.4ghz. I have a 1/2 acre lot so that helps. 6ghz backhaul would be virtually useless not to mention the 5ghz signal barely goes through anything. A floor and a single wall in my house can drop 5g to borderline unusable. 6ghz would be worse. I'd rather backhaul over Ethernet honestly.
My opinion is definitely influenced by having filled up the entire 160mhz available on the 5ghz channel with four access points. I have one centrally located access point meant to serve most of the house, along with 3 other ones that kind of serve their local area. The main one is 80mhz, one is 40mhz, and the last two are 20mhz. I'm excited to eventually have access to the 1200mhz available on 6ghz.

Those 20mhz networks can have issues with loads that have low latency and high throughput requirements like game streaming. That said, writing this I'm realizing I should just switch to 40 mhz for all those networks. That shouldn't be a problem anymore once I have some Wifi7 equipment years from now.

With all that in mind, AX has been a major upgrade along with the carryover from AC. Beamforming has surprised me with how well it works in making 5ghz way faster and more stable through walls and floors. 2.4ghz isn't a complete afterthought for me anymore with the throughput improvements. It still kind of is because every device I have that has AX also does 5ghz, but it's nice to see potential improvements for whatever doesn't in the future.
Aug 09, 2024 02:24 AM
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bazza36Aug 09, 2024 02:24 AM
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Quote from Shawndak07 :
I did it in my Linksys app on my android. No issues at all.
Then it can be used as mesh?
Or am I mixing up 2 things. Online reviews are saying you can't use 2 as a mesh network.
Aug 09, 2024 02:28 AM
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Shawndak07Aug 09, 2024 02:28 AM
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Quote from bazza36 :
Then it can be used as mesh?
Or am I mixing up 2 things. Online reviews are saying you can't use 2 as a mesh network.
The ln1301/mx4300 can not be a child node but it can be a parent node. I confirmed it with an mx4200 from a mx8000 kit.

*Update* these will work. Read rbtcordells comments below.
Last edited by Shawndak07 August 11, 2024 at 05:08 AM.
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Aug 09, 2024 04:33 AM
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bazza36Aug 09, 2024 04:33 AM
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Quote from Shawndak07 :
The ln1301/mx4300 can not be a child node but it can be a parent node. I confirmed it with an mx4200 from a mx8000 kit.
Thank you!
Am I correct that the mx4200 from Walmart
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Linksy...5645414143) won't work as a child node out of the box?

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