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For those more knowledgeable, would the Intel problems be enough for you to stay away? What other factors/considerations am I missing? Thanks!
For those more knowledgeable, would the Intel problems be enough for you to stay away? What other factors/considerations am I missing? Thanks!
First, the issue is that over-volting these chips causes some sort of oxidation in the die and over time (like high blood pressure) can cause the chip to start to fail. The failure manifests as reboots and blue screens. What else causes reboots and blue screens? EVERYTHING. Freezing, reboots and BSOD has been around since the CPU was invented. So people who claim their laptop CPU has the same problem because it freezes or blue-screens is pure conjecture and surely these people use it to get their 15 minutes of fame on YT.
First, the issue is that over-volting these chips causes some sort of oxidation in the die and over time (like high blood pressure) can cause the chip to start to fail. The failure manifests as reboots and blue screens. What else causes reboots and blue screens? EVERYTHING. Freezing, reboots and BSOD has been around since the CPU was invented. So people who claim their laptop CPU has the same problem because it freezes or blue-screens is pure conjecture and surely these people use it to get their 15 minutes of fame on YT.
The damage to the CPU is permanent. Does Intel's patch guarantee that there won't be any future problems?
How can you be sure that people's laptop problems are just 'pure conjecture'? I might agree with you if Intel were transparent, but they're not.
Don't forget that Intel CPU issues surfaced due to people's 'pure conjecture'. No one believed Intel CPUs would have problems until numerous reports of Blue Screens of Death prompted investigations into Intel's CPUs, forcing the company to admit their issues.
The damage to the CPU is permanent. Does Intel's patch guarantee that there won't be any future problems?
How can you be sure that people's laptop problems are just 'pure conjecture'? I might agree with you if Intel were transparent, but they're not.
Don't forget that Intel CPU issues surfaced due to people's 'pure conjecture'. No one believed Intel CPUs would have problems until numerous reports of Blue Screens of Death prompted investigations into Intel's CPUs, forcing the company to admit their issues.
Look up what "conjecture" means. People with laptops claiming they have the same issue (BSOD or reboots) because of this same flaw have absolutely ZERO way to tell unless maybe they have an electron microscope and the equipment needed to inspect their CPU die. So it is conjecture to believe their laptop has the same flaw.
Intel's investigation has led to public acknowledgement that certain unlocked CPU's are affected. That's not conjecture. When 10's of thousands of laptop users suddenly start complaining of similar symptoms along certain 13/14th gen CPU's then there might be some evidence and Intel will investigate. Until then, a couple people with flakey laptops does not equal the same thing.
Look up what "conjecture" means. People with laptops claiming they have the same issue (BSOD or reboots) because of this same flaw have absolutely ZERO way to tell unless maybe they have an electron microscope and the equipment needed to inspect their CPU die. So it is conjecture to believe their laptop has the same flaw.
Intel's investigation has led to public acknowledgement that certain unlocked CPU's are affected. That's not conjecture. When 10's of thousands of laptop users suddenly start complaining of similar symptoms along certain 13/14th gen CPU's then there might be some evidence and Intel will investigate. Until then, a couple people with flakey laptops does not equal the same thing.
Laptop chips were never affected, Intel has confirmed this, the 13900H uses completely different silicon than the desktop chips.
Intel has already released the microcode update that completely prevents the issue, reviewers have tested it and found that it works without any performance loss.
Intel has extended their CPU warranty from 3 years to 5 years, while that only applies to the desktop chips (because thats where the issue was) many laptop brands have pro-actively decided to extend their warranties as a sign of good faith for anyone with concerns. Even if that doesnt happen, you still get the normal 1 year warranty on your laptop, which is plenty of time to know if you have an issue (you wont).
Long story short, i'd have absolutely have no concerns about buying Intel CPUs or Intel based laptops at this point.
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