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Select Micro Center Locations: Intel Core i7-14700K CPU, ASUS Z790 Gaming WiFi7 Motherboard, G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32GB Kit DDR5 6000 RAM $500 + Free Store Pickup

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Aug 15, 2024 05:12 PM
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Krakn3DfxAug 15, 2024 05:12 PM
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Give this deal some time to oxidate.
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Aug 15, 2024 05:20 PM
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Zorba1446
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Ok, so here's my question: For a NON-gamer, who is going to use this rig only for multi-tasking Office apps, web browsing (albeit with as many as 50 tabs open at a time), Zoom, and background music streaming, how much massive overkill would it be? On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being "outrageously, unnecessary waste of money" and 1 being "Do it!" Smilie

Those voting "10," please suggest alternatives.

(The only reason I'm thinking of this is because my current desktop cannot be upgraded to Win 11 and Win 10 support will be ending soon.)
Aug 15, 2024 05:33 PM
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Love_ArtAug 15, 2024 05:33 PM
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Quote from mummy2 :
I have this and this thing gets hot, which means more fan noise. I also have a 12700k and prefer that. Yes the 14700 performs better in games but if that's not a priority for you then you'll be happy with the 12700 as the pc I have with that is basically silent
My i7-14700K stays middle of 40C in normal work and 52 to 57 C in Games.
I use 14 Years Old Noctua CPU Fan NH-D14. Not much Fan noise I can hear from it.
However, 14700K is hotter than 12700K of course.
Aug 15, 2024 07:05 PM
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Luigis3rdcousinAug 15, 2024 07:05 PM
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Quote from crazycreations :
Microcode status?
Still kinda too early to tell the status of the microcode update. Some YouTubers who are testing it are saying different things.

I've seen some say that, the microcode update only works if you enable Intel default settings. I believe Tech Yes City was talking about that but what he observed was that the microcode update actually INCREASES voltage and makes it worse.

Jayztwocents is encouraging everyone to skip Intel default settings and use the Intel extreme profile. But I've read several articles and videos showing that the microcode update ONLY applies to the default settings, the extreme profile disables the patch.

So basically what I've seen is the Intel default settings the cpu loses about 35% performance compared to the extreme profile which is a brutal loss.

I think it's way too early to tell because the problem is the voltage and VID voltage is still way too high even with this update. Tech yes city was talking about that and he recommends to set a max voltage no higher than 1.35v but he was seeing spikes well above 1.4 and 1.5.

I would personally caution ⚠️ staying away from Intel until they prove without a shadow of a doubt that they can be trusted
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Luigis3rdcousinAug 15, 2024 07:08 PM
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Quote from Zorbat1446 :
Ok, so here's my question: For a NON-gamer, who is going to use this rig only for multi-tasking Office apps, web browsing (albeit with as many as 50 tabs open at a time), Zoom, and background music streaming, how much massive overkill would it be? On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being "outrageously, unnecessary waste of money" and 1 being "Do it!" Smilie

Those voting "10," please suggest alternatives.

(The only reason I'm thinking of this is because my current desktop cannot be upgraded to Win 11 and Win 10 support will be ending soon.)
Well considering that most of the failures that has been happening on Intel is from high voltage spikes under smaller loads rather than bigger loads, because under large loads, the voltage comes down but it's been observed and even with the new microcode update some random spikes going to 1.5v which is way too high which is what is leading to these CPUs degrading over time, it's highly likely that smaller workload things might hurt these systems more.

You would be better off with an i3 system

Or a amd AM4 system since it's stable and doesn't have any issues with windows 11. Some new updates came out showing how the new AM5 has issues with windows 11
Aug 15, 2024 08:32 PM
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flashdriveAug 15, 2024 08:32 PM
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Quote from Zorbat1446 :
Ok, so here's my question: For a NON-gamer, who is going to use this rig only for multi-tasking Office apps, web browsing (albeit with as many as 50 tabs open at a time), Zoom, and background music streaming, how much massive overkill would it be? On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being "outrageously, unnecessary waste of money" and 1 being "Do it!" Smilie

Those voting "10," please suggest alternatives.

(The only reason I'm thinking of this is because my current desktop cannot be upgraded to Win 11 and Win 10 support will be ending soon.)
For your use case, this bundle would be a 10 (an "outrageously, unnecessary waste of money"). Assuming the problems with the 14700K have been fixed, not only is the CPU overkill, it's one that runs quite hot and you'd have to spend extra money on a hefty cooling solution. I agree with Luigis3rdcousin, you would be fine with a Core i3 (of any recent generation: 12th to 14th) which comes with a CPU cooler. And, if you don't like the included cooler, you could replace it with a number of choices in the $25-$35 range.

Unless your current system is under stress, I'd advise you to wait. Windows 10 does not reach end of life until October of 2025; more than a year away. That gives you plenty of time to wait for more deals to come along and for prices to go down.
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ninexballAug 16, 2024 12:28 AM
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Even if microcode is fixed and this resolves all the issues (still unknown), it might be wise to stay away from this. There are going to be a lot of people with degraded chips asking for RMA and they simply don't have enough chips to fulfill all those requests. So you are going to likely have to fight their support to try if you ever run into any issues.
Last edited by ninexball August 15, 2024 at 05:31 PM.
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deefopAug 16, 2024 02:13 AM
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Quote from crazycreations :
Microcode status?
It hardly matters; all good faith is out the window with Intel at this point. I wouldn't spend this kind of money on these chips with or without a microcode fix.
Aug 16, 2024 02:15 AM
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aegrotatioAug 16, 2024 02:15 AM
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Quote from The_Love_Spud :
Fix available in a beta BIOS release [asus.com].

Good luck!
Jon
Yeah, I paid for a certain amount of performance. I'm not accepting lower performance because Intel can't get its shit together.
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essix8Aug 16, 2024 02:35 AM
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Quote from aegrotatio :
Yeah, I paid for a certain amount of performance. I'm not accepting lower performance because Intel can't get its shit together.
????
Numerous reviewers have already tested the already release microcode update. There is no tangible performance decline with the new microcode.
As for people that are still wary, Intel extended their CPU warranty from 3 years to 5 years... Seeing as people typically upgrade their system every 3-5 years, this basically guarantees youll have no issues with it. Them extending the warranty now makes this the safest CPU generation to buy, as it's the longest CPU warranty ever offered by any brand and they are legally required to cover you.
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OrGoN3Aug 16, 2024 05:04 AM
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Quote from mihscr :
The fix is in beta, and nobody knows if it really works without affecting advertised performance and features. Some have reported noticeable performance decline due to the fix.

I would steer clear of 13- and 14-gen Intel CPUs until there is clear info regarding the effectiveness and implications of this fix.
It's out of beta now. It's a great deal, but I'm not a huge fan of the motherboard.
Aug 16, 2024 12:48 PM
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dj3stripesAug 16, 2024 12:48 PM
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Does it come with free throttling or did intel get around to fixing that yet?
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Aug 16, 2024 01:24 PM
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engineerit
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Aug 16, 2024 01:24 PM
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excellent combo, i7-14th gen sucks if you game! as intel admitted the issues with the 13th and 14th gen cpus crashing during high power draining events, mainly gaming.
Aug 16, 2024 02:46 PM
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coachclassAug 16, 2024 02:46 PM
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Quote from essix8 :
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Them extending the warranty now makes this the safest CPU generation to buy, as it's the longest CPU warranty ever offered by any brand and they are legally required to cover you.
Wow, that's a hot take. We all know they denied having issues for a while until they were forced to admit it. Having to deal with warranty replacement sucks even if the warranty period is longer.

If you don't have to use a busted Intel CPU, there's no reason to consider this deal.

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GolgathaAug 16, 2024 03:38 PM
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Quote from coachclass :
Wow, that's a hot take. We all know they denied having issues for a while until they were forced to admit it. Having to deal with warranty replacement sucks even if the warranty period is longer.

If you don't have to use a busted Intel CPU, there's no reason to consider this deal.
The fact that Intel didn't do a proactive, full recall of these knowingly defective CPUs tells me everything I need to know. If I'm building now, it's on an AM5 socket platform.

It's very easy to squander good faith. For what it's worth, I wrote the above as a happy user of Intel from Pentium 2 through my 9900k on the desktop, and I still have a 10750H based HP gaming laptop. I personally stopped using Intel when the power requirements for getting full performance out of their CPUs started topping 200w on the desktop.
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