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Sep 6, 2024 6:25 AM

Refurbished: Segway Ninebot F35 Electric Scooter

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Segway Inc Official via Walmart has Segway Ninebot F35 Electric Scooter (Refurbished) for $249.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member NackJ for posting this deal.

Note: Per product page, product has been professionally inspected, tested, and cleaned by a performance managed seller or supplier.

Features:
  • Max. Speed: Approx. 18.6 mph (30 km/h)
  • Typical Range: Approx. 24.9 miles (40 km)
  • Battery Capacity: 367 Wh
  • Charging Time: Approx. 6.5 h
  • Net Weight: Approx. 34.8 lbs (15.8 kg)
  • Payload: 66–265 lbs
  • Max. Slope: Approx. 20%
  • Riding Modes: Speed limit, Standard, Sport

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Written by StrawMan86 | Staff
  • Our research indicates that this deal is $50 less (16.7% savings) than the next best available price for a refurbished unit from a reputable merchant with prices starting from $299.99 at the time of this posting.
  • Refer to the original post & forum comments for additional details & discussion. -StrawMan86

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Segway Inc Official via Walmart has Segway Ninebot F35 Electric Scooter (Refurbished) for $249.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member NackJ for posting this deal.

Note: Per product page, product has been professionally inspected, tested, and cleaned by a performance managed seller or supplier.

Features:
  • Max. Speed: Approx. 18.6 mph (30 km/h)
  • Typical Range: Approx. 24.9 miles (40 km)
  • Battery Capacity: 367 Wh
  • Charging Time: Approx. 6.5 h
  • Net Weight: Approx. 34.8 lbs (15.8 kg)
  • Payload: 66–265 lbs
  • Max. Slope: Approx. 20%
  • Riding Modes: Speed limit, Standard, Sport

Editor's Notes

Written by StrawMan86 | Staff
  • Our research indicates that this deal is $50 less (16.7% savings) than the next best available price for a refurbished unit from a reputable merchant with prices starting from $299.99 at the time of this posting.
  • Refer to the original post & forum comments for additional details & discussion. -StrawMan86

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Sep 8, 2024 6:39 PM
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burner1515Sep 8, 2024 6:39 PM
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Quote from zippy55513 View quoted comment :
Walmart has a 90 day return period while the eBay one says only 30. The walmart one says it's in like new condition, while eBay only says used. It's likely the same stock, but worth the $10 difference for the risk?

Personally, I'd rather take the longer return period. My experience with Segway's customer service/warranty was terrible. I got a Segway through Kohls and there was one rubber bumper that was being held in place with a screw. They overtightened the screw and damaged the bumper. I emailed customer support asking just to send me the rubber bumper and they made me send the whole scooter back. I will admit, they were good about sending me a whole box and paying for shipping. The scooter got back to me with "no trouble found." I told support they didn't fix the problem and they made me ship the scooter back again. This time I put a big yellow sticker on it pointing to the problem and a note saying what's going on. It came back to me again with "no trouble found". Shipping the scooter back and forth was definitely taking it's toll as I could tell the scooter was getting beat up every time it was being shipping around because the box they sent me was not as secure as the original box. I told support to please just send me the rubber bumper and they refused, saying I have to send it back for replacement. I got frustrated, so tried to return the scooter to Kohls, but they refused because it was past the 30 day return period. I reached out to my Capital one and filed a dispute but they refused because it was past the 30 day return period. I tried to argue that it went past the 30 days because Segway was forcing me to ship the scooter back and forth for repairs. Neither Capital One nor Kohls cared and told me to pound sand. As a last effort, I filed a complaint with the FTC and that did escalate things at Segway, but the manager told me that they didn't have the part and are not sure when they will get it.

I went on ebay and bought the rubber bumper for like $10. The scooter worked pretty well after that and I will admit it was fun to use.

That experience soured me on a lot of companies and made me wary not to trust any of them to have your back. Especially if there's significant money at stake. Being able to to take it back to a Walmart store for 90 days, for any reason, is worth the extra $10 to me.
Next time this happens for anything (non-car) you need to tell them they are running a foul of the Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act. Ask for an explanation why they feel they are not, noting you are attempting to avoid small claims court to recoup your losses that include your personal time, expense (if incurred, like fuel and wear and tear on transportation), and compensation for the period where your property was unavailble for your use (think how much a rental would be each day, petty I know, but you would be entitled to it) beyond the initial promised warranty repair process. That usually gets 'exceptions' made (total is because it should not be an exception for them to fulfill their freaking warranty). If not, you could make bank from a judge when they are awarding damages from them violating the act. Definetely a hassle, but that's the better option when dealing with companies that pull this crap.
Sep 8, 2024 7:18 PM
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TheRedEyeBanditSep 8, 2024 7:18 PM
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Quote from AllanA6531 View quoted comment :
Are the batteries easily replaceable? If so what is a realistic life expectancy on these batteries and how much to replace ?
While not a direct comparison, I have a segway gt1 w/ 850miles and counting.... No noticeable battery degradation so far.
Sep 8, 2024 7:22 PM
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AllanA6531Sep 8, 2024 7:22 PM
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Quote from TheRedEyeBandit View quoted comment :
While not a direct comparison, I have a segway gt1 w/ 850miles and counting.... No noticeable battery degradation so far.
This is great news! I'm still on the fence but I might just have to get one now! Seems to be a decent deal!
Sep 8, 2024 7:33 PM
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jmstueweSep 8, 2024 7:33 PM
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Quote from Neon_Shell View quoted comment :
Should I get this for $250 or the g30lp for $312 from ebay?
I second this question. But I hear the biggest difference is the F35 has air filled tires and you have to worry about flats. G30LP is tubeless. Both are probably overkill for what I really need haha.
Sep 8, 2024 7:35 PM
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MohitD4158Sep 8, 2024 7:35 PM
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Quote from Neon_Shell View quoted comment :
Should I get this for $250 or the g30lp for $312 from ebay?
where can you find g30lp for 312? I would guess that to be a better deal. Assuming similar condition.
Sep 8, 2024 7:56 PM
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burner1515Sep 8, 2024 7:56 PM
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Quote from BrokePanda View quoted comment :
The question is has anyone gone through Allstate to get a replacement today? Ask a lot of questions and you got to go through hoops to get the warranty to work. Anyone have any experience of Allstate?
I looked at the Allstate overview, and my personal opinion is I would pass. No one with experience is complaining about mechanical malfunctions, which is interesting considering they seem to have a lot of these refurbished by them. This appears to indicate these are just returns. I mean look at the comments complaining the tire is not solid. There are advantages to a tubed tire, but it does require more maintenance. One quick example is the air creates a shock absorption, but then see the comment here complaining about scooters that lack shock absorbers. Yeah, they want solid unyielding tires, but want the shock absorption, so they will pay more for that, while this is cheaper and works. Replacing a tube in a tire is not that hard, but everyone here states otherwise. If they replaced tube's in bike tires that would add credence, but it seems more likely they don't deal with tube tires often, and these wheels are harder to remove than bike wheels. If you have no tools, it's definetely going to seem impossible. I'd suggest just spending the $35 you saved on a cheap mechanics toolset from Walmart or harbor freight specifically with the needed sizes to remove and install the wheel. You can 100% buy better tube's than what they are probably installing in these.

Anyway back to that Allstate warranty. It is a repair or replace. So you will be sending it out for repair, it could take months and that would be fully legal under the terms you agreed to. They won't have you jump through many hoops to get to the shipping point, their more likely to just ship and then deny the claim while possibly sending you a bill for the no fault found diagnosis and shipping. I would not be suprised if they just eat that cost though, its still cheaper than paying someone to review these details in depth with every claimant and 'AI' would just send the box+label with instructions to send back. If they can't repair they will replace. I don't know what happened with that guys TV in the comments, but for a phone I had the Allstate accidental on, they just cut us a check for the price of the phone instead of trying to offer a replacement. If the guys TV was over $500 I guess I can see them trying to force a store replacement that costs less than the original value, but even in his story he got the original TV price back. I took a look at the Allstate terms document and it definetely points out younneed to buy battery coverage for batteries to be covered, and shows the path for service is repair>replace>refund. The replace part could have been forced at walmart, but if you go to squaretrade you literally see you can buy coverage there on a lot of items without having to do it at a specific retailer. The replace has a note your replacement might be lesser value but will be like kind in performance and specs. You definetely get screwed when trying to utilize that for computers, $2000 years ago can easily be just $500 today. Obviously it's not as big an issue with cheaper items, they will just cut the check probably.

Sorry, I got off the point a bit there. The Allstate terms literally say it covers mechanical failures, but wear and tear would not be considered a failure. So think like the tube breaking is a failure if it's not punctured, but that would be harder to prove. It's also insane to send the entire scooter out for a flat, just replace the tube yourself with a better one. There is also the high probability it will be sent back unrepaired noting it is normal wear and tear item that is not covered. Same goes for brakes, battery (think fuel, who warranties that? When it is, it needs to be specifically called out in the terms) and tires (worn out treads and even a blow out will be deemed wear and tear, and accident from a road hazard). Mechanical failure literally means machined parts that move together mechanically and fail. So if this has brake lines, handle brake, and throttle with linkage, those would be covered. The charging mechanism would be covered too. Wheel bearing will probably be covered, but might not since they have an life expectancy based on load and rotations (miles) used, but you have an easier time proving it's a failure vs wear and tear failure by showing the milage.

So to me Allstate is not worth it. I would 100% hate packing this thing to be shipped and then wasting time waiting for a pickup, or bringing it to a drop off. Working on the wear and tear items is not that bad really, especially when you buy the right tools for the $35 you saved. You get the bonus of choosing a better part if the one they are using is just not a good one and prone to quicker failures from normal use.

As an aside, I'd personally take the rest of the comments here, and in reviews with a grain, of salt. I mean, airing up tires is not a giant pain or chore. Anyone who thinks that must never had a bicycle in their life, or they personally never did any maintenance on it. If it's the latter, I don't know what to say. Barring a disability you are fully capable, like the vast majority of the population who handle these normal parts of life on a daily basis. If you just want the slight convenience, great, pay more, this is for us looking for the sickest deal. Post the solid tired equivalent at the same price and old farts like me will just shut up lol.
Sep 8, 2024 8:20 PM
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burner1515Sep 8, 2024 8:20 PM
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Quote from Neon_Shell View quoted comment :
Should I get this for $250 or the g30lp for $312 from ebay?
G30lp is certified used. Im not sure how they got these back used, but if its not a return, your are literally just getting one someone else used and Segway checked it for failure, found none, then put it up for sale as certified used. That means if they missed a failure, or it was just intermittent and they did not detect it, that's what you are getting. This personally does not bother me, but if you want something without that possibility the certified refurbished is better. For this f35 refurbished, they found an issue, corrected it, and now you have an actually repaired item instead of a potential lottery as I outlined.

I like that the g30lp folds, but I'm going to point out you need to check your public transits policy if your plan is to carry it on with you. Trains are not usually a problem, but the bus policy normally forbids scooters regardless if they are folded up or not. Your local drivers may not enforce the stupid rule, but that does not mean they never will.

One other thing to note is the tires. As someone else said they would not consider it because there are no shock absorbers. The cheaper tubed air tired act as a shock absorbers. That means the ride on this F35 should actually feel better than the g30lp. Of course you can get all sorts of nails in your solid rubber without having to stop, but you are trading off quite a bit of cash and ride quality for the just in case situation. Spend $15 and strap a mini bike pump to this and carry a patch kit, and you will get where you need buying time to complete the repair properly later. Mini pump is good for other things as well of course. What happens when you neglect those tubeless and they fall apart from all sorts of debris getting lodged into them? You can't do an emergency repair, and the cost to replace solid over tube is definitely higher.

Those appear to be the only differences I see. I'd save the money personally.

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Sep 8, 2024 10:24 PM
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Neon_ShellSep 8, 2024 10:24 PM
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Quote from MohitD4158 View quoted comment :
where can you find g30lp for 312? I would guess that to be a better deal. Assuming similar condition.
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Sep 8, 2024 10:57 PM
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handyguySep 8, 2024 10:57 PM
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Quote from ShrewdGorilla5647 View quoted comment :
These appear to be shipping directly from Segway through Walmart. At least that's what I just ordered. Hoping they arrive in as excellent condition as yours.
Walmart refund I find ix really easy. This is through Segway though
Sep 9, 2024 3:05 AM
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chimacc773Sep 9, 2024 3:05 AM
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got this the last time got a brand new one not a scratch i am 165 pds and top speed was 18 last over a hour with out the head lights on this will not get me up a bridge /hill good on grass def feel every bump wish it had front shocks very fun was able to keep up with my friends rental scooter def a good deal at 250
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Sep 9, 2024 3:28 AM
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AllanA6531Sep 9, 2024 3:28 AM
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Gonna try it ! Been wanting an electric scooter and this deal is best bang for the $. I will open and inspect. If it's more used up than expected, I will return asap. If close enough to BNIB, will keep!
Sep 9, 2024 3:47 AM
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hoyunSep 9, 2024 3:47 AM
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I ordered one from ebay yesterday before I found out that it doesn't have suspension...let's hope that my cancelation processed through.
Sep 9, 2024 4:13 AM
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AllanA6531Sep 9, 2024 4:13 AM
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Anyone install any additional accessories that are worth having? If so, what do y'all recommend?

I was looking at the extended battery for a start. Wonder if it's worth the extra miles that you get out of it.

Any recommendations is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Sep 9, 2024 4:13 AM
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NackJ
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Sep 9, 2024 4:13 AM
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Quote from NackJ View quoted comment :
The Segway App shows the total miles on my son's scooter. My F35 arrives tomorrow so I will find out then.
The scoot arrived and the battery appears to have been replaced with a larger capacity battery. 10mah instead of 7.5. couple small scratches. Will give it a test run tomorrow but it appears I have an F40 instead of an F35 since the only difference seems to be the battery capacity.

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Sep 9, 2024 4:16 AM
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thunderriverSep 9, 2024 4:16 AM
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Quote from BrokePanda View quoted comment :
The question is has anyone gone through Allstate to get a replacement today? Ask a lot of questions and you got to go through hoops to get the warranty to work. Anyone have any experience of Allstate?
Fool me once shame on Allstate. I only tried Allstate once and their agent lied about sending a check to me to cover the loss of Jabra Bluetooth. Basically paid the premium and the insurance did nada. You will get a much better coverage from your credit card company than Allstate. Don't waste your money with them

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