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Linksys LN1301 Tri-Band AX4200 WiFi 6 Wireless Router

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  • Handles 40+ devices
  • Speed up to 4.2 Gbps (AX4200)
  • WiFi 6 Tri-Band
  • Quad-Core Processor
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SlySol
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Note that the previous thread on this has a massive amount of technical discussion about practically every aspect of this router and detailed setup instructions etc. If looking for answers, I'd start with a search in that thread (terms like OpenWRT, DD-WRT, stock, CA, mesh, USB, throughput, wired, backhaul, bricked, etc). That may be a good start for those new to it, as it probably already answers a lot of questions that are sure to crop up.

https://slickdeals.net/f/17735319-linksys-ln1301-tri-band-ax4200-wifi-6-wireless-router-20-free-shipping?t=17735319

Also, here's a link to some of the basic support docs for it from the Linksys site …

https://support.linksys.com/kb/article/1010-en/
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2nd truckload just arrived! Thanks op for posting
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Bricked one to OpenWRT... time to stock up more for science.

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Quote from Guy767 :
Backhaul should be connected to the yellow LAN port of the nodes I believe. This makes sense to me as the WAN port is for outside connections of your LAN which requires more security and is separate from LAN traffic.

Since your backhaul is for LAN traffic that ultimately connects to your LN1301 Gateway which connects to WAN, the nodes should be connected to ethernet/wired backhaul via its yellow Lan port IMO.

Try connecting all your nodes that have ethernet backhaul to the yellow Lan Port and don't have anything connecting to their WAN Ports. Once that's done; restart the router+node network via the stock firmware's gui. (CA>Troubleshooting>Diagnostics>Restart)

Have Node Steering enabled for awhile (A few hours) just to give the mesh setup a chance to auto find the best connection it can with the other nodes. Once that's done you can disable Node Steering to maintain/lock the topology of the nodes.
I'm able to use my child node's WAN port as the wired backhaul port. On initial setup of the mesh, I connected the parent LAN port to child WAN port as the instructions indicate for stock firmware. After I moved the child to its location, I used the child WAN port to connect for wired backhaul as I needed to use the other 3 LAN ports for wired connections. I don't have any problems with my mesh using this config.
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Quote from Slickdeezee :
I'm able to use my child node's WAN port as the wired backhaul port. On initial setup of the mesh, I connected the parent LAN port to child WAN port as the instructions indicate for stock firmware. After I moved the child to its location, I used the child WAN port to connect for wired backhaul as I needed to use the other 3 LAN ports for wired connections. I don't have any problems with my mesh using this config.
Are your nodes that have backhaul on their WAN port still connecting via WiFi though? Have you confirmed that ethernet backhaul is being used for the nodes and no wireless connection is being made? The Linksys app will show all nodes that using Ethernet Backhaul as (…)

I believe supersizedkid's issue is that all nodes using Ethernet backhaul when connected to their WAN port don't use it but rather connect via Wifi. IMO the yellow LAN port is intended for LAN Ethernet backhaul for the reasons I explained previously.

I think it's worth a shot for supersizedkid to try using the yellow Lan port for ethernet backhaul to see if it resolves the problem. If that doesn't work, he might need to factory reset the nodes (Hold reset button down for several seconds until the red LED goes off) and try adding the nodes again. Perhaps the Add Wired Nodes setting didn't take on the first attempt and only Wireless Child Nodes is functioning?
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Quote from Guy767 :
Are your nodes that have backhaul on their WAN port still connecting via WiFi though? Have you confirmed that ethernet backhaul is being used for the nodes and no wireless connection is being made? The Linksys app will show all nodes that using Ethernet Backhaul as (…)

I believe supersizedkid's issue is that all nodes using Ethernet backhaul when connected to their WAN port don't use it but rather connect via Wifi. IMO the yellow LAN port is intended for LAN Ethernet backhaul for the reasons I explained previously.

I think it's worth a shot for supersizedkid to try using the yellow Lan port for ethernet backhaul to see if it resolves the problem. If that doesn't work, he might need to factory reset the nodes (Hold reset button down for several seconds until the red LED goes off) and try adding the nodes again. Perhaps the Add Wired Nodes setting didn't take on the first attempt and only Wireless Child Nodes is functioning?
Yep confirmed the child node is using the wired connection and not wifi. I have two child nodes, one is using the WAN port for backhaul, the other is using LAN port. My mesh network works properly with that mixed config.

If his problem is the nodes connecting via wifi for backhaul, one idea that popped into my head is utilizing the MAC address filtering to deny the wifi MAC addresses of the nodes. I would also do a sanity check and connect the child to parent using a short cable to verify there's no connection issue with the longer cable.
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supersizedkidSep 30, 2024 12:53 AM
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Quote from Guy767 :
Are your nodes that have backhaul on their WAN port still connecting via WiFi though? Have you confirmed that ethernet backhaul is being used for the nodes and no wireless connection is being made? The Linksys app will show all nodes that using Ethernet Backhaul as (…)

I believe supersizedkid's issue is that all nodes using Ethernet backhaul when connected to their WAN port don't use it but rather connect via Wifi. IMO the yellow LAN port is intended for LAN Ethernet backhaul for the reasons I explained previously.

I think it's worth a shot for supersizedkid to try using the yellow Lan port for ethernet backhaul to see if it resolves the problem. If that doesn't work, he might need to factory reset the nodes (Hold reset button down for several seconds until the red LED goes off) and try adding the nodes again. Perhaps the Add Wired Nodes setting didn't take on the first attempt and only Wireless Child Nodes is functioning?
Thanks for the suggestion, I think I already tried that as well, but I can try again to be sure. I saw the yellow line, but didn't know what it meant. Have you seen any documentation on that?

That said, LAN port of parent node to WAN port of child node did seem to connect via ethernet both during setup and intermittently after that. That's also the configuration that works for my Nest mesh.
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supersizedkidSep 30, 2024 12:55 AM
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Quote from Slickdeezee :
Yep confirmed the child node is using the wired connection and not wifi. I have two child nodes, one is using the WAN port for backhaul, the other is using LAN port. My mesh network works properly with that mixed config.

If his problem is the nodes connecting via wifi for backhaul, one idea that popped into my head is utilizing the MAC address filtering to deny the wifi MAC addresses of the nodes. I would also do a sanity check and connect the child to parent using a short cable to verify there's no connection issue with the longer cable.
Thanks for confirming, and I appreciate the suggestion. That said, this is becoming more of a headache than it's worth and I probably have to cut my losses. There are other products out there that cost more but have good manufacturer software and support.

EDIT - I wonder if my problem is that I'm trying to have mixed wired and wireless backhaul. Sounds like you have all-wired backhaul. But again, that works fine on my Nest mesh, so it should be doable with a good mesh system. Was just hoping to upgrade to WIFI 6 and tri band on the cheap.
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Quote from supersizedkid :
Thanks for the suggestion, I think I already tried that as well, but I can try again to be sure. I saw the yellow line, but didn't know what it meant. Have you seen any documentation on that?

That said, LAN port of parent node to WAN port of child node did seem to connect via ethernet both during setup and intermittently after that. That's also the configuration that works for my Nest mesh.
Honestly, I'm inferring that the yellow LAN port is used for backhaul. This post [confusedbird.com] for Tenda Nova backhaul topology helped to convince me that my assumptions are correct though; especially if you are using a switch.

I have a 5 LN1301 setup (1 router 4 nodes; one of which has ethernet backhaul via yellow LAN port) . Everything has been stable with 64 devices for nearly a month now. I think it's worth the effort to try my yellow LAN port scheme before giving up as the LN1301s are enterprise grade devices and an incredible bargain IMO.

If the yellow lan port suggestion doesn't work then you might need to factory reset the nodes as I'm guessing the Add Wired Child Nodes setting didn't take. Just add one node at first and see if backhaul works. Once that's confirmed add an additional; each time testing/confirming ethernet backhaul before adding more. Good Luck
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s11018Sep 30, 2024 01:34 AM
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Actually no, I can get a dumb AP behavior from LN1301 only if I connect it LAN to LAN.

If I connect main router LAN to WAN on LN1301 - yes, it has selected static IP, but :
1) LN1301 is not reachable by this static IP (was the main reason to begin with).
2) LN1301 doesn't behave as AP at all, not passing thru DHCP IPs from main router to WiFi clients connected to LN1301.
So,
LAN to LAN - normal dumb AP, but with IP coming from DHCP of main router;
LAN to LN1301 WAN - yes, static IP, but no AP.
OK, When you said AP mode I incorrectly assumed you were talking about bridge mode (bridges WAN to LAN).
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If you want to connect LAN to LAN and never use the WAN port then you should be able to do as follows. I recommend factory reset just to be safe before starting.

After reset the LN1301 should have an IP of 192.168.1.1 and provide DHCP to a PC connected to another LAN port. Don't plug in any cable from your primary router during configuration. And make sure that your main router will provide a DHCP address to your PC for later use.

Connect PC to LN1301 lan port (make sure to turn off WIFI if it is enabled to avoid any confusion). Run ipconfig and it should show an IP assigned to your PC wired interface (i.e. 192.168.1.154) and a gateway of 192.168.1.1. You should be able to ping 192.168.1.1 at this time since the LN1301 provided a DHCP address to the PC. Then launch browser connection to 192.168.1.1 and reset the default password. You will not be making any configuration changes under internet since you are not going to use WAN port, just local tab. Disable DHCP under local configuration. Change the IP (and appropriate netmask if not using 255.255.255.0) under local tab to an address on the same subnet as your main router and make sure it is a static entry that will not conflct with DHCP range of main router (ie: if main router is 10.0.0.1, then assign 10.0.0.2to LN1301). Once you hit OK you will get disconnected from the LN1301. Change your PC to a manual IP on the same new subnet (i.e. 10.0.0.99). This is temporary just to make sure everything is ok with LN1301. Once you are able to ping 10.0.0.2 then you can access the LN1301 again from a browser. Configure your wireless settings as desired on the LN1301. Once everything is completed, turn the LN1301 off/on to make sure everything is working again. Change your PC from static to DHCP now. Connect cable from main router to available LAN port on LN1301. Your DHCP address should get set on the PC and you should be able to ping 10.0.0.2 (or whatever address you set for the local IP of the LN1301. You should also gave a check mark for internet status. The LN1301 is acting like an unmanaged switch for the 3 LAN ports and any connection to an open LAN port or a WiFi connection should get an IP assigned from your main router.

Hope this helps.
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Quote from Guy767 :
Honestly, I'm inferring that the yellow LAN port is used for backhaul. This post [confusedbird.com] for Tenda Nova backhaul topology helped to convince me that my assumptions are correct though; especially if you are using a switch.

I have a 5 LN1301 setup (1 router 4 nodes; one of which has ethernet backhaul via yellow LAN port) . Everything has been stable with 64 devices for nearly a month now. I think it's worth the effort to try my yellow LAN port scheme before giving up as the LN1301s are enterprise grade devices and an incredible bargain IMO.

If the yellow lan port suggestion doesn't work then you might need to factory reset the nodes as I'm guessing the Add Wired Child Nodes setting didn't take. Just add one node at first and see if backhaul works. Once that's confirmed add an additional; each time testing/confirming ethernet backhaul before adding more. Good Luck
If you look at the manual for the MX4200 (should be same basic config as MX4300/LN1301), it states the following:

Internet port—Connect an ethernet cable to the yellow gigabit (10/100/1000) port, and to a
broadband internet cable/DSL or fiber modem. If you are using this router as a child node in a mesh Wi-Fi system, you can use this port to create a wired connection to another node
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If you look at the manual for the MX4200 (should be same basic config as MX4300/LN1301), it states the following:

Internet port—Connect an ethernet cable to the yellow gigabit (10/100/1000) port, and to a
broadband internet cable/DSL or fiber modem. If you are using this router as a child node in a mesh Wi-Fi system, you can use this port to create a wired connection to another node
Interesting, so no indication what the LAN port marked in yellow might be for.
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Interesting, so no indication what the LAN port marked in yellow might be for.
I have looked at manual for several Linksys Velop systems and can find no reference to it. I assumed it was Link Aggreation since many other routers I have will use WAN port and first LAN port for that purpose. So it seemed logical for the WAN yellow and LAN yellow to have that relation, but I find no indication of LAG support in any of the documentation I have checked so far.
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Didn't work. I reset and tried only selecting wired. Still connects wirelessly regardless
I saw some weirdness like that so I tried using the third LAN (with the yellow mark) instead of the WAN on the child and it seemed to stay on wired. That said, I have a spare unit so on that one I first selected setup wired node then done then apply. If didn't seem to work, so I did the mesh setup again this time selecting setup wired node and setup wireless node, etc. I also made sure to disconnect from the WAN and wait for the node to get back to blue before moving.
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Quote from bikerbandito :
Be warned if you flash openwrt - I made the mistake of upgrading to a recent release of the firmware on Arix00 GitHub page. All scripts/software from my previous openWRT firmware don't work...then I bricked the router by attempting to downgrade/flash the original sysupgrade.bin that once worked flawlessly (I got greedy and wanted to install sqm, which is why I tried to upgrade to a newer build)...somehow I managed to recover the latest unstable firmware by hitting the reset button on the router. Very lucky to have a working router again but I'm stuck with a build that doesn't work with any of my previously installed packages...tons of kernel errors. What a mess, I guess downgrading to an older version isn't possible with these snapshot builds. Be careful everyone.

/ has anyone managed to downgrade a few versions back when running into similar issues?
This is typical of using snapshot builds - essentially the kernel gets updated, but the packages only work on a very specific kernel version. You have to reinstall packages after each upgrade. When there's a stable release, you won't have to do this as long as you stick to official builds. You can potentially also use the firmware builder to get a custom download with your desired packages already included. The config files are the important part to maintain between upgrades.
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Is there a way to set up a wireless bridge on stock firmware? I'm not new to networking and so far could not make it happen.
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Quote from LmG7119 :
Is there a way to set up a wireless bridge on stock firmware? I'm not new to networking and so far could not make it happen.
I tried to get one set up as a wireless bridge, with both stock firmware and DD-WRT, and could never get it to work. The directions just didn't quite track with what I saw.

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Quote from supersizedkid :
Thanks for confirming, and I appreciate the suggestion...

EDIT - I wonder if my problem is that I'm trying to have mixed wired and wireless backhaul. Sounds like you have all-wired backhaul.
Perhaps daisy chaining Ethernet back-haul with the nodes is the problem IE LN1301 does not support it with the basic Frankenstein stock firmware?

Are you forced to daisy chain or can you use a switch that distributes the back-haul to the nodes like in this topology [confusedbird.com]?

The switch method should work IMO without having to try my half ars Yellow LAN Port scheme. I still think it is worth a shot though if daisy chaining is necessary because the LN1301 is a pretty powerful enterprise grade router and quite a bargain IMO; it would be a shame if you can't take full advantage of the deal.


Quote from LmG7119 :
Is there a way to set up a wireless bridge on stock firmware? I'm not new to networking and so far could not make it happen.
I don't think it's possible on the stock firmware with a single unit. Having 2 LN1301 will work nicely though. One will act like an access point/bridge that connects directly to your primary router via Ethernet and the other LN1301 in mesh/node mode will be able to be placed anywhere and give you access to wireless Ethernet ports.

You should be able to use a single LN1301 for Ethernet wireless bridging by flashing it with DD-WRT firmware however.

I did this myself over a decade ago with an old Belkin router which was compatible with DD-WRT to enable wireless Ethernet access to an original old school Xbox that I wanted to use as a streaming media player via XBMC; worked well I recall.

Perhaps someone here that has more recent experience with DD-WRT can confirm this is still possible. I would be surprised if DD-WRT removed the wireless bridging feature though..

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