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Denon AVR-X3800H 9.4-Channel 8K Network AV Receiver
$980
$1,699
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Amazon has Denon AVR-X3800H 9.4-Channel 8K Network AV Receiver for $981.60 -> now $979.99. Shipping is free.
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Features:
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Features:
- Immersive sound from 9.4 channels Dolby Atmos DTS:X and IMAX Enhanced
- Simple intuitive setup including Audyssey Room Correction Suite
- HEOS Built-in with WiFi and Bluetooth
- Configuration flexibility with 11.4 channel processing capability and Pre-Amplifer mode
- Increased HDMI 2.1 Connectivity with six 8K inputs (6/3 total HDMI in/out)
- New HD GUI AIOS 6.0 New Networking Platform (Module + Antenna)
- Griffin Lite XP - Upgraded DSP with higher calculation power
- Auro 3D processing
- 4 independent subwoofer pre outs
- Dirac Live Upgradability
- HDMI +5V output power 300mA capability for all output (incl. Zone2 output)
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Written by citan359 | Staff- About this Deal:
- This sale price beats this recent Frontpage Deal
- Warranty:
- Includes 3-Year Manufacturer's Warranty for Parts & Labor
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Amazon has Denon AVR-X3800H 9.4-Channel 8K Network AV Receiver for $981.60 -> now $979.99. Shipping is free.
Thanks to Deal Hunter gaamn114 for sharing this deal.
Features:
Thanks to Deal Hunter gaamn114 for sharing this deal.
Features:
- Immersive sound from 9.4 channels Dolby Atmos DTS:X and IMAX Enhanced
- Simple intuitive setup including Audyssey Room Correction Suite
- HEOS Built-in with WiFi and Bluetooth
- Configuration flexibility with 11.4 channel processing capability and Pre-Amplifer mode
- Increased HDMI 2.1 Connectivity with six 8K inputs (6/3 total HDMI in/out)
- New HD GUI AIOS 6.0 New Networking Platform (Module + Antenna)
- Griffin Lite XP - Upgraded DSP with higher calculation power
- Auro 3D processing
- 4 independent subwoofer pre outs
- Dirac Live Upgradability
- HDMI +5V output power 300mA capability for all output (incl. Zone2 output)
Editor's Notes
Written by citan359 | Staff- About this Deal:
- This sale price beats this recent Frontpage Deal
- Warranty:
- Includes 3-Year Manufacturer's Warranty for Parts & Labor
- About this Store:
- Don't have Amazon Prime? Students can get a free 6-Month Amazon Prime trial with free 2-day shipping, unlimited video streaming & more.
- If you're not a student, there's also a free 1-Month Amazon Prime trial available.
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My take is that the 3800 is the "Slickdeal's darling" because it's 90-95% of the 4800 w/o the additional hundreds of dollars (they even share the same DAC and have the same Dirac functionality)!
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in general, if people want multiple sub outs or dirac for instance, we can't get it in all brands, and that's not by accident.
on top of that, the manufacturers fudge the numbers, for instance as someone pointed out with the Onkyo TXRZ50:
"No, the W/ch figure is seriously overinflated:
250 W/Ch (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 10% THD, 1 channel driven)
Notice that's for 1kHz (instead of a full 20Hz-20kHz) and at 10% THD for only 1 channel driven. That's a seriously abnormal way of rating power, plainly done just to post a big number. Also that Onkyo is on the same platform as all the other Onkyos and Pioneers that exhibit an undocumented power limiting mode that's completely hidden from the user.
That said, the RZ-50 is likely totally fine for most people's usage." https://www.audioscienc
"Conclusions
I had high hopes going into this review thinking the company had seen the advantage its superior objective measurements in the past and would try to capitalize on them. Sadly, the reverse seems to be true with the DAC section taking a large step backward. Considering that the 3800 costs $500 more than 3700H, this is very surprising to me. Yes, inflation has a lot to do with that but surely the eye needed to be focused on making sure they at least met the same level of performance as last generation.
The good news is that the amplifier seems to be same design as last generation and has only taken a small hit.
Denon had been my "goto" recommendation for AVRs and even AVPs. When anyone asked me about either, I would just say "get a Denon AVR." While subjectively the performance of this new generation may be similar, I can't accept the regression in objective measured performance.
It is with much sadness that I cannot recommend the Denon AVR-X3800H."
https://www.audiosciencereview.co...iew.38574/ [audiosciencereview.com]
"When using the 3800, I simply replaced a 4500 with the same room, settings, editing (sound curve) and found the sound with music clinical/anemic. I didn't want to invest more money into Dirac in the 3800. I simply switched back to the 4500. I am not sure I will upgrade again but probably just a bit better two channel." https://www.audioscienc
i have a 4500, for me i'd ask if the newer version of audyssey on the x3800 would do a better job of knocking down the brightness on old klipsch speakers.
i'd also try to apply the amir testing to how i use the receiver, for instance i'm only using hdmi inputs.
i don't think that there is a generic application answer for everyone, but we should be questioning how we support the monopoly that owns all of these major brand names; do we buy their substandard crippled receivers, or do we buy their later models with better feature sets, for instance.
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They actually share the same DAC including the 6700.
There isn't anything that offer what this does especially at this price point imo.
"When using the 3800, I simply replaced a 4500 with the same room, settings, editing (sound curve) and found the sound with music clinical/anemic. I didn't want to invest more money into Dirac in the 3800. I simply switched back to the 4500. I am not sure I will upgrade again but probably just a bit better two channel." https://www.audiosciencereview.co...4/page-139 [audiosciencereview.com]
i have a 4500, for me i'd ask if the newer version of audyssey on the x3800 would do a better job of knocking down the brightness on old klipsch speakers.
i'd also try to apply the amir testing to how i use the receiver, for instance i'm only using hdmi inputs.
i don't think that there is a generic application answer for everyone, but we should be questioning how we support the monopoly that owns all of these major brand names; do we buy their substandard crippled receivers, or do we buy their later models with better feature sets, for instance.
For brightness try the reference instead of flat setting after calibration. Should roll off highs slightly. Can try the app too and implement a custom house curve. Assuming you don't want to change the bright speakers.
"No, the W/ch figure is seriously overinflated:
250 W/Ch (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 10% THD, 1 channel driven)
Notice that's for 1kHz (instead of a full 20Hz-20kHz) and at 10% THD for only 1 channel driven.
you are looking at the wrong spec if you are interested in making an AB comparison between two models, the ONLY valid test would be the FTC test as the parameters are outlined in the test (# channels driven, impedance used, THD allowed, FR used, etc.).using that testing method the onkyo has better specs. :
Onkyo RZ50 - 120 wpc (8 ohms, 20Hz–20kHz, 0.08% THD, 2-ch driven) - actual test result = 136wpc
Denon 3800H - 105 wpc (8 ohm, 20Hz-20Khz, 0.08% THD, 2ch driven) - actual test result = 114wpc
Now the caveat to that test is that it only represents the 2 channel output. When you run all channels you are going to be at ~50-70% of the 2 channel rating. And since that is the way users will operate the unit (Not just 2 channel) that makes the 2 channel rating more for info only.
If you look at the Denon spec sheet it shows a similar 1KHz test with 10% THD - 215 watts per channel (6 ohm, 1khz, 10% 1ch drive). So again the Onkyo spec is better at 250 vs 215. But again a meaningless test as no one will operate their AVR driving 1 channel.
The important features for most users will be the number of channels it can process or internally amplify (These may be different), room correction software (Dirac is an added cost option on the Denon), sub outputs which are independent on Denon but can be done in other manners such as REW) and price.
Basically the only real advantage to the 4800 is if you have inefficient speakers and or listen at higher than average levels.
It has a few other added features but are not sonic differences.
If you use or plan to take advantage of the preouts that will pretty much negate that benefit.
Even if you were to get the 4800 for the low sale of $1300, that's almost $400 difference!
That would cover most of both Dirac RCs but you don't really need Dirac imo.
Most people in here don't even believe DLBC offers any benefit/not required!
There is no real market for ART at this level.
TBH unless your base layer/core speakers are all full range/reference & using 4 subs DLBC would suffice at this level.
Keep in mind Audyssey already offers ART like subwoofer support out of the box!
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You could also just stay with Audessy
Basically the only real advantage to the 4800 is if you have inefficient speakers and or listen at higher than average levels.
It has a few other added features but are not sonic differences.
If you use or plan to take advantage of the preouts that will pretty much negate that benefit.
Even if you were to get the 4800 for the low sale of $1300, that's almost $400 difference!
That would cover most of both Dirac RCs but you don't really need Dirac imo.
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