Alienware Aurora R16 Desktop: i9 13900F, RTX 4080 SUPER, 32GB DDR5, 1TB SSD

lingula6

Nov 1, 2024 2:59 PM

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How do you guys like this Lenovo Legion w 4070 ti super?
https://slickdeals.net/f/17857137-legion-tower-5-gen-8-amd-with-rtx-4070-ti-super-1489-99-at-lenovo?src=jfy&prop=rcmid-fee8d9f010a584585d67b6bddcd9d75d&attrsrc=JFYCarousel%3APosition%3A1%7CJFYCarousel%3AType%3Athread

Coupled with 10% C B seems like a decent deal, or am i missing something as an old-man noob to sim racing?

Enoch42

Nov 1, 2024 3:55 PM

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Enoch42Nov 1, 2024 3:55 PM

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OP thought this was a good deal. If you don't build them, yeah it's an okay deal.

But after a couple YouTube videos, and a smaller budget, I'm ready to build my own for cheaper. Cheaper because I don't want a $1,000 computer and a $1,000 GPU.

That being said, black Friday is close by. I'd still wait either way for potentially better deals.

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shmed

Nov 1, 2024 5:11 PM

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Quote from Hat-Trick

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If you want to tinker with cars, don't buy a Tesla, right? If you intend to replace main components in your gaming PC, don't by this as the system board can't be changed later if you want something newer in a few years. But everything else that most people upgrade CAN be changed/upgraded.

The problem with the propriatory motherboard is that it will prevent you from upgrading to a new CPU in a few years. Also, even things that are theoretically easy to upgrade on this machine are limited. For e.g., the bios doesn't let you turn on XMP if you upgrade the memory. The case is also pretty small and basically custom designed to basically only fit the few components they sell on their website (they have their own Dell RTX cards). There's a risk you may need a whole new case if you want to update the gpu down the line, and since the motherboard is custom for the case, you'll need a new motherboard and a new power supply too. Basically, only get this if you are confident you won't do anything more than upgrade the storage or maybe ram, or maybe if you intend on getting a lower end configuration and intend on only upgrading to same generation but higher end components sold by Dell.

Hat-Trick

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Nov 1, 2024 5:22 PM

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Hat-Trick

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Quote from shmed

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The problem with the propriatory motherboard is that it will prevent you from upgrading to a new CPU in a few years. Also, even things that are theoretically easy to upgrade on this machine are limited. For e.g., the bios doesn't let you turn on XMP if you upgrade the memory. The case is also pretty small and basically custom designed to basically only fit the few components they sell on their website (they have their own Dell RTX cards). There's a risk you may need a whole new case if you want to update the gpu down the line, and since the motherboard is custom for the case, you'll need a new motherboard and a new power supply too. Basically, only get this if you are confident you won't do anything more than upgrade the storage or maybe ram, or maybe if you intend on getting a lower end configuration and intend on only upgrading to same generation but higher end components sold by Dell.

You basically affirmed what I said, you just used twice as many words. Smilie

In my experience (which I don't think is too far from most), you might want to upgrade the CPU in a few generations ahead, meaning you'll probably need a new MB, CPU AND RAM (as RAM will probably be better in 3 generations). And maybe even a new-gen SSD since there will probably be Gen5 more commonplace. So, really, a new case + PS is very minor compared to the cost of all the other parts (or even better, sell your used gaming rig and wait for a great deal on a new one).

Last edited by Hat-Trick November 1, 2024 at 10:28 AM.

shmed

Nov 1, 2024 5:31 PM

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shmedNov 1, 2024 5:31 PM

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Quote from Hat-Trick

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You basically affirmed what I said, you just used twice as many words. Smilie

In my experience (which I don't think is too far from most), you might want to upgrade the CPU in a few generations ahead, meaning you'll probably need a new MB, CPU AND RAM (as RAM will probably be better in 3 generations). And maybe even a new-gen SSD since there will probably be Gen5 more commonplace. So, really, a new case + PS is very minor compared to the cost of all the other parts.

I personally found your claim of "But everything else that most people upgrade CAN be changed/upgraded." a bit incomplete and potentially misleading, which is why I added context and nuance to it. Even if at the end of the day we may both be saying the same thing, there's nothing wrong in sharing more details to help inform potential buyers.

Hat-Trick

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Nov 1, 2024 5:33 PM

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Hat-Trick

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Quote from shmed

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I personally found your claim of "But everything else that most people upgrade CAN be changed/upgraded." a bit incomplete and potentially misleading, which is why I added context and nuance to it. Even if at the end of the day we may both be saying the same thing, there's nothing wrong in sharing more details to help inform potential buyers.

Your details are appreciated. Wink

kevinh

Nov 1, 2024 6:12 PM

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Quote from Davesilly

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I got that one too, it has a 147 processor but only 16 memory for 1200. This is 1800 of both have the 10% coupon.

Dang! I know it's probably not available but do you have a link to that thread?

Man that's a KILLER price. I'd probably opt for the lower system and saved that amount of $.

brandofo

Nov 1, 2024 6:15 PM

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brandofoNov 1, 2024 6:15 PM

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Not a bad deal. But I would maybe wait for BF if you can wait.

homegrownloser

Nov 1, 2024 6:16 PM

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Quote from HappyDeer3232

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13th gen i9. Pass. That's part of the cursed bunch of Intel CPUs.

You're right, this is what killed the deal for me too!

DeProof

Nov 1, 2024 6:26 PM

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Quote from kevinh

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Dang! I know it's probably not available but do you have a link to that thread?

Man that's a KILLER price. I'd probably opt for the lower system and saved that amount of $.

Sorry, but they are all full of it. That deal was $1400 before discounts of various types that could all apply to this deal as well. So it is a $600 difference before discounts applied vs this 4080 super system.
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4070ti super vs 4080 super
Beginning Price: $1400 vs $2000
After 10% off coupon: $1260 vs $1800
After 15% Cash Back: $1071 vs $1530
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Only a $460 difference already.
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And potentially a couple more lesser discounts (credit cards etc.) would likely land you somewhere around $400 difference in all.
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Here is the deal being referenced:
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https://slickdeals.net/share/android_app/fp/1007532

Last edited by DeProof November 2, 2024 at 08:30 AM.

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xfx888

Nov 1, 2024 6:47 PM

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xfx888Nov 1, 2024 6:47 PM

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FYI, the Alienware R16 has major power throttling on the CPU. PL1 and PL2 on the stock BIOS are set very low and you'll lose 15-20% on multithreaded workloads.

Also Dell is finicky as hell with their BIOSes, and even if you can fix it initially with ThrottleStop, settings may fall off through automatic updates. You may need to factory reset to get it to work again, and it's a pain in the ass.

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Davesilly

Nov 1, 2024 6:58 PM

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DavesillyNov 1, 2024 6:58 PM

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Quote from kevinh

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Dang! I know it's probably not available but do you have a link to that thread?

Man that's a KILLER price. I'd probably opt for the lower system and saved that amount of $.

Sure, it's this one:

https://slickdeals.net/f/17811705-alienware-aurora-r16-desktop-i7-14700f-rtx-4070-ti-super-16gb-ram-...

splunk

Nov 1, 2024 7:20 PM

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splunkNov 1, 2024 7:20 PM

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Here's a detail. Never buy a Dell. The company is horrible as a whole, and their customer service takes the cake as the worst on this plane(t).

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eduardmc

Nov 1, 2024 7:28 PM

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eduardmcNov 1, 2024 7:28 PM

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Quote from R3DTR1X

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The only thing propietary in these new Aurora R16's is the motherboards, everything else can be upgraded/changed. That being said, I would not buy a 13th gen Intel.

Can you replace the psu. Thought it was propietary since the motherboard uses custom connectors

eduardmc

Nov 1, 2024 7:31 PM

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Quote from splunk

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Here's a detail. Never buy a Dell. The company is horrible as a whole, and their customer service takes the cake as the worst on this plane(t).

This is how my 13900k 4090 r15 ended up like. Case was so bad. I salvage what i could and build this. Next time i'll just buy a microcenter combo and build frm scratch. You spend more but you will end up with something better

https://imgur.com/a/sAY1Fqt

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