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11-Piece Cuisinart Chef's Stainless-Steel Classic Cookware Set + $10 Kohl's Cash $87.99 + Free Shipping

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Kohl's [kohls.com] has for Kohl's Rewards Members (free to join [kohls.com]): 11-Piece Cuisinart Chef's Stainless-Steel Classic Cookware Set + $10 Kohl's Cash for $129.99 - 20% off w/ promo code LETSGO20- $10 off $50 w/ promo code 10HOME- $10 off $25 w/ SHOP10 Now code GOSHOP10 = $87.99. Shipping is free.

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  • 1.5-qt. covered saucepan
  • 2.5-qt. covered saucepan
  • 3-qt. covered saute pan
  • 8-qt. covered stockpot
  • 8-in. skillet
  • 10-in. skillet
  • Steamer insert
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Kohl's [kohls.com] has for Kohl's Rewards Members (free to join [kohls.com]): 11-Piece Cuisinart Chef's Stainless-Steel Classic Cookware Set + $10 Kohl's Cash for $129.99 - 20% off w/ promo code LETSGO20- $10 off $50 w/ promo code 10HOME- $10 off $25 w/ SHOP10 Now code GOSHOP10 = $87.99. Shipping is free.

Included:
  • 1.5-qt. covered saucepan
  • 2.5-qt. covered saucepan
  • 3-qt. covered saute pan
  • 8-qt. covered stockpot
  • 8-in. skillet
  • 10-in. skillet
  • Steamer insert

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Nov 12, 2024 01:06 PM
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The standards for FP have gone down, haven't they?
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Not a terrible price, but note that one of the images is very deceptive. The "unsurpassed heat distribution" graphic shows a tri-ply pan, but the wording specifically says "aluminum encapsulated base", and if you look at the pics of the actual pans they confirm that... so these are not tri-ply.

There's many reasonably priced encapsulated base sets out there.
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Quote from OrangeNose4316 :
This is useless set

Not sure why all the hate. This set is a CR Recommended set and scored a 69 with an as tested price of $130. It scored an Excellent for cooking evenness. The best set scored an 80 and was $600. This is a very good set at this price point.

Editing my previous comment - there is a self-nesting Cuisinart [amazon.com] set that scored a 77 on CR, but that price point is $160 on Amazon. This Cuisinart set does NOT self nest. So, again, the OP's deal is a great set at this price point. You can definitely get nicer stainless sets than this - but nothing comes to mind at this price point.
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Was I better off getting this deal from a month ago?

https://slickdeals.net/f/17809044-prime-109-97-10-piece-cuisinart-classic-pots-pans-set-at-amazon

Seems to be tri-ply?
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Quote from GimmeYoTots :
Not sure why all the hate. This set is a CR Recommended set and scored a 69 with an as tested price of $130. It scored an Excellent for cooking evenness. The best set scored an 80 and was $600. This is a very good set at this price point.

Editing my previous comment - there is a self-nesting Cuisinart [amazon.com] set that scored a 77 on CR, but that price point is $160 on Amazon. This Cuisinart set does NOT self nest. So, again, the OP's deal is a great set at this price point. You can definitely get nicer stainless sets than this - but nothing comes to mind at this price point.
You can't defy physics. These aren't fully clad and are incapable of cooking evenly. You will have more frustration and time wasted cooking on this set than a proper stainless set, which isn't that much more expensive. It is a waste of money IMO to buy this. This is Walmart grade stuff.
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Quote from pgharibi :
You can't defy physics. These aren't fully clad and are incapable of cooking evenly. You will have more frustration and time wasted cooking on this set than a proper stainless set, which isn't that much more expensive. It is a waste of money IMO to buy this. This is Walmart grade stuff.
Well, two points in my reply. First of all, these are fully clad, what do you mean they're not fully clad? There's an entire aluminum core sandwiched between two stainless outer shells. Second, Consumer Reports bought and tested this set, and Consumer Reports says it's a 5/5 for cooking evenness. So, I'm going to take Consumer Reports' testing engineers review of the actual product vs your anecdotal claims, as somebody who doesn't own the product, let alone tested the product.

Finally, if you look at the fourth image in the OP, you can see the orange layer that represents the aluminum core fulling "cladding" between the two stainless layers. So, again, I'm not clear where you're getting these aren't fully clad.
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Quote from GimmeYoTots :
Well, two points in my reply. First of all, these are fully clad, what do you mean they're not fully clad? There's an entire aluminum core sandwiched between two stainless outer shells. Second, Consumer Reports bought and tested this set, and Consumer Reports says it's a 5/5 for cooking evenness. So, I'm going to take Consumer Reports' testing engineers review of the actual product vs your anecdotal claims, as somebody who doesn't own the product, let alone tested the product.

Finally, if you look at the fourth image in the OP, you can see the orange layer that represents the aluminum core fulling "cladding" between the two stainless layers. So, again, I'm not clear where you're getting these aren't fully clad.
Outside of Oxo stuff, Kohl's isn't a great source of quality products, I would put Walmart as a place that generally sells higher quality merchandise than Kohl's. 99% of Kohl's clothing section is polyester with barely any cotton in the store. I don't think you understand what fully clad means, nor do you understand the benefit of 18/10 stainless - neither of which this is. Look it up. Nothing in the description mentions cladding or the kind of stainless steel used here. This is likely the lowest grade of stainless steel cookware. CR is ok for some things like appliances, but wirecutter and Reddit are more reliable than CR IME for product recommendations. wirecutter has far more detailed reviews than CR. If you want to go with it, go with it and try it out, but there are better quality options out there for not too much more.

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Wirecutter: "The Cuisinart 77-7 Chef's Classic Stainless 7-Piece Cookware Set was our former budget pick. However, this set is prone to hot spots because it's not fully clad. The single layer of stainless steel around the perimeter of the pan is too thin to evenly distribute heat and causes food to burn."
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Quote from pgharibi :
Outside of Oxo stuff, Kohl's isn't a great source of quality products, I would put Walmart as a place that generally sells higher quality merchandise than Kohl's. 99% of Kohl's clothing section is polyester with barely any cotton in the store. I don't think you understand what fully clad means, nor do you understand the benefit of 18/10 stainless - neither of which this is. Look it up. Nothing in the description mentions cladding or the kind of stainless steel used here. This is likely the lowest grade of stainless steel cookware. CR is ok for some things like appliances, but wirecutter and Reddit are more reliable than CR IME for product recommendations. wirecutter has far more detailed reviews than CR. If you want to go with it, go with it and try it out, but there are better quality options out there for not too much more.

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Wirecutter: "The Cuisinart 77-7 Chef's Classic Stainless 7-Piece Cookware Set was our former budget pick. However, this set is prone to hot spots because it's not fully clad. The single layer of stainless steel around the perimeter of the pan is too thin to evenly distribute heat and causes food to burn."
Okay, that's not the same Cuisinart set. I found the Wirecutter article, and followed the Amazon link to the set on Amazon, and the set on Amazon is only clad on the bottom. So, yes, the set Wirecutter reviewed only has bottom cladding, but the set in the OP, like the diagram in pic #4 shows... is fully clad. I see that it's a "77" set, but it's clearly not the same style of stainless steel pieces that are in the OP's set.

Follow the Amazon link from the Wirecutter article [amazon.com] like I did, and you'll see they're not the same.
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Quote from GimmeYoTots :
Well, two points in my reply. First of all, these are fully clad, what do you mean they're not fully clad? There's an entire aluminum core sandwiched between two stainless outer shells. Second, Consumer Reports bought and tested this set, and Consumer Reports says it's a 5/5 for cooking evenness. So, I'm going to take Consumer Reports' testing engineers review of the actual product vs your anecdotal claims, as somebody who doesn't own the product, let alone tested the product.Finally, if you look at the fourth image in the OP, you can see the orange layer that represents the aluminum core fulling "cladding" between the two stainless layers. So, again, I'm not clear where you're getting these aren't fully clad.
This set is an encapsulated base, not fully clad (aka tri ply). The picture of a triply pan is very deceptive but the graphic specifically says "encapsulated base". I posted this above.
Encapsulated base are better than nothing for heat distribution but are generally less well regarded overall. It's most noticable in the skillets, woks, etc. With a pot, encapsulated base vs tri ply isn't as much of an issue bc physics (Google it).
Another knock on an encapsulated base is the weight distribution. They are often bottom heavy and the sidewall metal tends to be cheaper and thinner making the pan feel awkward
I've used both extensively and my current daily driver is a set with copper encapsulated bases. I thought the copper base would be worth the fully clad aluminum tradeoff. In retrospect I wish I would have gone with an inexpensive tri ply set
Encapsulated base are almost never better than their fully clad brethren.
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Quote from SDinNC :
This set is an encapsulated base, not fully clad (aka tri ply). The picture of a triply pan is very deceptive but the graphic specifically says "encapsulated base". I posted this above.
Encapsulated base are better than nothing for heat distribution but are generally less well regarded overall. It's most noticable in the skillets, woks, etc. With a pot, encapsulated base vs tri ply isn't as much of an issue bc physics (Google it).
Another knock on an encapsulated base is the weight distribution. They are often bottom heavy and the sidewall metal tends to be cheaper and thinner making the pan feel awkward
I've used both extensively and my current daily driver is a set with copper encapsulated bases. I thought the copper base would be worth the fully clad aluminum tradeoff. In retrospect I wish I would have gone with an inexpensive tri ply set
Encapsulated base are almost never better than their fully clad brethren.
Okay, I see that now. I agree, the reference to encapsulated base was what I was talking about on the Wirecutter review (didn't realize that was the technical name). At any rate, I agree these are encapsulated bases and not fully clad or not "all clad." I also agree that the diagram from Cuisinart in the OP is misleading, as it shows a fully clad pan, and these are encapsulated bases.

So, my apologies to pgharibi about the cladding... the Wirecutter review was correct. However, the fact that Consumer Reports gave this set a 5/5 for cooking evenness and it was *also* Wirecutters previous Budget Pick, seems to suggest it's not a garbage set. Personally, I have USA made All-Clad stainless steel pans, but if I had a second home, a beach home, Airbnb, etc, I'd definitely consider this low priced budget set for something like that.
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Glad there are some experts in this kind of stuff. I really need a non stick style wok/pan but don't want to use the teflon coated ones anymore. I've tried some carbon steel ones but can't seem to get the seasoning done properly, cast iron, even some kind of silicon claimed pan from costco but can't seem to find what is best. Any suggestions? I really thought carbon steel was going to be best but the seasoning just doesn't seem to work for me. I've tried oven, simmering oil, etc and just can't get seasoning right

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Quote from ChristopherJLee :
Glad there are some experts in this kind of stuff. I really need a non stick style wok/pan but don't want to use the teflon coated ones anymore. I've tried some carbon steel ones but can't seem to get the seasoning done properly, cast iron, even some kind of silicon claimed pan from costco but can't seem to find what is best. Any suggestions? I really thought carbon steel was going to be best but the seasoning just doesn't seem to work for me. I've tried oven, simmering oil, etc and just can't get seasoning right
Carbon needs seasoned similar to a cast iron pan except they often come unseasoned. I'd recommend 4-5 layers before you first use it. Typical instructions call to heat it on med/high for a bit and then paint it (inside and out) with a towel dipped in oil (peanut or something with a high smoke point), then back on the stove... it's still gonna smoke a bit and will ultimately turn black, this is desired.
Woks are meant to cook at extremely high temperatures (most people don't actually cook at a high enough temp... think dangerously high). They are also meant to heat up and release heat quickly. Recipes will often call for an initial flash cook, and then a reduction of heat, so the pan must be responsive to temperature changes. It's for these two reasons that carbon steal is preferred. It can both reach extremely high temps, and also is fairly nimble to adjust temps b/c they're often thin'ish... it's also super cheap.
The issue with most nonstick is that it's not supposed to be used at extremely high temps b/c the coating will degrade (yummy chemicals!). The issue with cast iron is it doesn't change temperatures very quickly b/c of all the mass.
I'd stick with carbon steel. Season the heck out of it, and don't be stingy with the oil when cooking in it.

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