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popularDaddio1949 posted Nov 12, 2024 04:51 PM
popularDaddio1949 posted Nov 12, 2024 04:51 PM

Verizon Wireless, Lowering your Cell Phone Cost When Traveling Abroad

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This post is for Verizon wireless customers who plan to travel abroad. If you have another wireless service, you may not be interested, except to ridicule Verizon customers.

Verizon wireless service when traveling abroad can be expensive. Currently, Verizon charges $12/day for data, talk, and text for international travel if you have their lower tier plans (Unlimited Welcome and Unlimited Plus). Verizon calls this extra charge TravelPass. However, under their Unlimited Ultimate plan data, talk, and text are included in the monthly plan charge. The Unlimited Ultimate has the highest monthly fixed charge. Note, there is no roaming charge for Canada and Mexico for the lower tier plans.
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But, Verizon allows you to temporarily switch plans even within a billing cycle, and by switching plans you can beat the $12/day TravelPass charge.

We recently made 1-week trip to Europe and my daughter also made another 2-week trip to Europe in past few months. The day before we left, I switched the phones from Unlimited Welcome to Unlimited Ultimate. The day after the trip I switched the phone back to Unlimited Welcome. For the 1-week trip to Europe we were under the Unlimited Ultimate plan for just over a week. I did the same for my daughter's 2-week trip to Europe. Also, I could have switched plans on the days we left and returned because when I called Verizon, they switched us during the call.

The additional cost for Unlimited Ultimate is $25/line for the entire month, but Verizon prorates the cost for just the time spent under the Unlimited Ultimate. Consequently, for the 7-day trip to Europe the total increase in cost per phone was $10. If we kept the less expensive plan, Unlimited Welcome, the increase would have been $70 (7 times $10/day). For my daughter the total additional cost was $25 for 3-weeks in Europe, If she stayed under the cheaper plan the increased cost would have been $210 (21 days time $10/day).

Note, Verizon has now increased the TravelPass cost from $10/day to $12/day.
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This post is for Verizon wireless customers who plan to travel abroad. If you have another wireless service, you may not be interested, except to ridicule Verizon customers.

Verizon wireless service when traveling abroad can be expensive. Currently, Verizon charges $12/day for data, talk, and text for international travel if you have their lower tier plans (Unlimited Welcome and Unlimited Plus). Verizon calls this extra charge TravelPass. However, under their Unlimited Ultimate plan data, talk, and text are included in the monthly plan charge. The Unlimited Ultimate has the highest monthly fixed charge. Note, there is no roaming charge for Canada and Mexico for the lower tier plans.
TravelPass [verizon.com]
Verizon plans [verizon.com]

But, Verizon allows you to temporarily switch plans even within a billing cycle, and by switching plans you can beat the $12/day TravelPass charge.

We recently made 1-week trip to Europe and my daughter also made another 2-week trip to Europe in past few months. The day before we left, I switched the phones from Unlimited Welcome to Unlimited Ultimate. The day after the trip I switched the phone back to Unlimited Welcome. For the 1-week trip to Europe we were under the Unlimited Ultimate plan for just over a week. I did the same for my daughter's 2-week trip to Europe. Also, I could have switched plans on the days we left and returned because when I called Verizon, they switched us during the call.

The additional cost for Unlimited Ultimate is $25/line for the entire month, but Verizon prorates the cost for just the time spent under the Unlimited Ultimate. Consequently, for the 7-day trip to Europe the total increase in cost per phone was $10. If we kept the less expensive plan, Unlimited Welcome, the increase would have been $70 (7 times $10/day). For my daughter the total additional cost was $25 for 3-weeks in Europe, If she stayed under the cheaper plan the increased cost would have been $210 (21 days time $10/day).

Note, Verizon has now increased the TravelPass cost from $10/day to $12/day.

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Nov 12, 2024 07:41 PM
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AndrewinMDNov 12, 2024 07:41 PM
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Quote from wHiTeSoL :
If you leave your phone on a state to be able to receive texts (like from dominos) you likely already triggered international roaming anyways. It's not sneaky, your leaving the door open for your phone to connect to a foreign network.
I vaguely remember (this was 8 years ago, I think) that I had to do something with the phone that required me to take it off Airplane mode. I was using the phone for GPS to navigate the roads in the UK but was not using it for data or calls. Felt very old school to not have constant connection!

Bottom line is the Verizon daily charge is outrageous and unwarranted. If you're overseas for longer than two days, buy a local SIM (or sign up for the international plan).

My daughter is going to be studying in England next semester, and I had debated about signing her up for the Verizon plan mentioned. However, she wouldn't have a local number, which may be limiting. I may see if I can suspend her Verizon plan and have her use Lycamobile or Vodafone while she's there instead, which will almost undoubtedly be cheaper. From what I remember, she had 120 min of international calling in Ireland, which she could use in an emergency to call us, and we talked to her through WhatsApp using data or wifi.
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Nov 12, 2024 07:45 PM
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wHiTeSoLNov 12, 2024 07:45 PM
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Quote from AndrewinMD :
I vaguely remember (this was 8 years ago, I think) that I had to do something with the phone that required me to take it off Airplane mode. I was using the phone for GPS to navigate the roads in the UK but was not using it for data or calls. Felt very old school to not have constant connection!

Bottom line is the Verizon daily charge is outrageous and unwarranted. If you're overseas for longer than two days, buy a local SIM (or sign up for the international plan).

My daughter is going to be studying in England next semester, and I had debated about signing her up for the Verizon plan mentioned. However, she wouldn't have a local number, which may be limiting. I may see if I can suspend her Verizon plan and have her use Lycamobile or Vodafone while she's there instead, which will almost undoubtedly be cheaper. From what I remember, she had 120 min of international calling in Ireland, which she could use in an emergency to call us, and we talked to her through WhatsApp using data or wifi.
Again, how so? Because you don't want to pay?

I've found the international options very fair for the convienence, plus it sends you a warning text that you can opt of if it was an accident. You can turn on other services like gps but leave cellular off, airplane mode is just a catch all. You clearly left yourself in a position to connect to a foreign network by leaving your phone in a state where dominos can text you. That's on you.

It's clearly not the cheapest way to go, but the most convenient by a long shot and available for people who want to do so. Calling it "sneaky" is just deceptive as it gives you plenty of time to opt out, both before you go overseas or after youve accidentally connected to a foreign network.
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Nov 12, 2024 08:47 PM
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Nov 12, 2024 08:47 PM
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Quote from AndrewinMD :
I vaguely remember (this was 8 years ago, I think) that I had to do something with the phone that required me to take it off Airplane mode. I was using the phone for GPS to navigate the roads in the UK but was not using it for data or calls. Felt very old school to not have constant connection!

Bottom line is the Verizon daily charge is outrageous and unwarranted. If you're overseas for longer than two days, buy a local SIM (or sign up for the international plan).

My daughter is going to be studying in England next semester, and I had debated about signing her up for the Verizon plan mentioned. However, she wouldn't have a local number, which may be limiting. I may see if I can suspend her Verizon plan and have her use Lycamobile or Vodafone while she's there instead, which will almost undoubtedly be cheaper. From what I remember, she had 120 min of international calling in Ireland, which she could use in an emergency to call us, and we talked to her through WhatsApp using data or wifi.
Years ago my daughter also studied abroad, Scotland, for several years. She just bought a phone there and found a carrier. At that time the phone and phone plans were purchased separately.

Finally, I never looked into the price of a physical sim card. How do the pricing of a physical sim and esim compare these days?
Nov 12, 2024 08:56 PM
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djgoblueNov 12, 2024 08:56 PM
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Quote from Bruzer :
We used Airalo for an eSIM when we travelled to Australia and New Zealand. Seemed to work well.
Used Airolo for eSIMs as well, in Europe and in Asia. Worked great and was super easy. I think in Europe I paid $7 for enough data for a week, in Asia needed about $15 for 2 weeks. Mostly Google Maps usage, and then general surfing through the day to look things up.
Nov 12, 2024 09:01 PM
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shazishNov 12, 2024 09:01 PM
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Quote from CharlesBarkley :
Not a bad setup, unless you are under the old plans and can't "go back" to them. For my trip overseas I just got a cheap unlimited data eSIM online and used that
We used Voye Global (https://voyeglobal.com/) during our travel to Spain and Morocco a few weeks ago. Got a two-week, 6 Gb plan and we were quite content with it.
Nov 12, 2024 09:07 PM
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PhonzoXDNov 12, 2024 09:07 PM
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Quote from CharlesBarkley :
Not a bad setup, unless you are under the old plans and can't "go back" to them. For my trip overseas I just got a cheap unlimited data eSIM online and used that
Quote from su_A_ve :
Keep in mind that this only works if you are in the current Unlimited plans.

If you are on a 5G (Start, Play, Get, etc), you won't be able to switch back. That said, you need to see if the old plans are still worth it or not. For example, 5G Start included some gigs for hotspot, but if you don't use it, you're better off with U Welcome as it's lower priced.

But if you are in Play, AND use both Disney bundle and Apple Arcade, then switching over to U Plus would end up consting you more to get those addons. If you only use Disney, then it's a wash.
Yup, yup

the first 2 responses nailed it for alot of people. Alot are on the "More" plans, which is the set of plans prior to this Unlimited plan. Likely you wont be able to move back if you try this trick.

Like you said, if you only need the cheapest welcome plan, its actually the best deal. But the mid-tier plan like the Play plan, it is better than their current mid tier plan.

If you plan on traveling longer, the monthly travel plan is better than the daily plan. Not sure if they raised the price on that too but for certain plans it was $80 a month.
Nov 12, 2024 09:17 PM
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PhaenonNov 12, 2024 09:17 PM
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Quote from maestro :
It's nice to know it prorates. I just switched from Google Fi to Verizon. Unfortunately, there is no signal on Fi at my wife's workplace.
They don't have weefee? You can switch to Total wireless. Customer service is a pain but service is same as Verizon.

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Nov 12, 2024 09:48 PM
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BGALLTHAT
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As an alternative you could also keep the plan you have and add the $10 perk for 3 days of international coverage. If you need more than 3 days add the perk 1 month prior and you will have 6 days, etc. When you are back you can remove it.
This might be easier for people who have bill credits that they don't want to mess up from switching plans
Nov 12, 2024 10:21 PM
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BarryT82Nov 12, 2024 10:21 PM
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I upgraded to the ultimate plan earlier this year during a military deployment. I was able to use my phone to call back to the US, make local calls, and use data for the plan price. Autopay to get the $10 discount and I get a $10 loyalty discount.
Nov 12, 2024 10:28 PM
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QuietToddlerNov 12, 2024 10:28 PM
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Good hack thanks
Nov 12, 2024 10:38 PM
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geekyswoopNov 12, 2024 10:38 PM
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Quote from su_A_ve :
Keep in mind that this only works if you are in the current Unlimited plans.

If you are on a 5G (Start, Play, Get, etc), you won't be able to switch back. That said, you need to see if the old plans are still worth it or not. For example, 5G Start included some gigs for hotspot, but if you don't use it, you're better off with U Welcome as it's lower priced.

But if you are in Play, AND use both Disney bundle and Apple Arcade, then switching over to U Plus would end up consting you more to get those addons. If you only use Disney, then it's a wash.
They allow you to switch back to your grandfathered plan within 30 days
Nov 12, 2024 10:44 PM
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euuser1144057Nov 12, 2024 10:44 PM
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Does the ultimate plan cover hotspot internationally?
Nov 12, 2024 10:46 PM
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banch0ngNov 12, 2024 10:46 PM
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I'm on 5G Play More currently and this thread is perfect timing ... heading on vacation to Australia in December. I'll likely switch to Unlimited Ultimate and then try and switch back to 5G Play on return.

But looking at the comparison list, Unlimited Plus looks the same as 5G Play More, minus the Disney etc which I don't use anyway.
Nov 12, 2024 11:00 PM
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YCGNov 12, 2024 11:00 PM
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OP is correct, but keep in mind that you only get 10 GB of international data at 5G speed per billing cycle. After that, you get reduced speeds of 2G. The cost to get more 5G speed is $10 for 2GB more. You'll get texts in the foreign country telling you this, and giving you the option to buy 2 GB more when the 10 GB has been used.

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Nov 12, 2024 11:16 PM
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FairRailway1491Nov 12, 2024 11:16 PM
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I do the same when I need hotspot. Switch to the plus plan then when I'm done I go back to welcome.

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