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Model: Zoom MS-70CDR+ MultiStomp Guitar Effects Pedal with Over 140 Effects Featuring Choruses, Delays, Reverbs, Stereo Effects, Effect Chaining, Single Stompbox, Tuner, & Battery Powered
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Newest version just released in last year or so, a great Swiss army knife of guitar effects. Can use multiple effects at once, has user presets. Good for guitar, bass, and keyboards. Full stereo inputs and outputs.
Didn't they just release new apps for these that need a lot of work yet? I'm so tempted by the amp/cab sim pedal but I am holding off until the apps are better.
Newest version just released in last year or so, a great Swiss army knife of guitar effects. Can use multiple effects at once, has user presets. Good for guitar, bass, and keyboards. Full stereo inputs and outputs.
The crazy thing is that the old model is commonly selling for more looking around. I think people want the tactile footswitch and also probably the ability to load different effects across all the old model pedals. I have the ms50g but actually want to get an ms70cdr. I dont really want the newer + models until someone figures out how to import and export the effects so they can be used on any device like the older gen
It's worth noting this is also available at Sweetwater where you'll get a bag of candy with it. Additional resons to choose Sweetwater include that they provide customer education, they list weight of guitars, and they are often the reason Amazon discounts music items.
Also worth noting is that most Magic Stomps are on sale.
Last edited by Selman November 27, 2024 at 11:42 AM.
Pretty sure it's not true bypass (since they don't advertise it). The original one definitely wasn't. You can solve that with a switcher loop pedal.
I don't mean true bypass vs buffered bypass.
Not all digital pedals will digitize your dry signal, some of them will pass through the analog signal and combine it with the digital effects. For example, most Strymon pedals do this. This is desirable because digitizing the dry signal introduces latency with it. For example, most if not all multieffects pedals (Helix, Kemper, etc) have latency because of this. Not everyone will notice this latency but I certainly do. Anyway I found the answer to my question. This pedal does digitize the dry signal.
edit: Also forgot to mention that digitizing the dry signal can slightly alter how it sounds too.
Last edited by PT89 November 30, 2024 at 11:18 AM.
The crazy thing is that the old model is commonly selling for more looking around. I think people want the tactile footswitch and also probably the ability to load different effects across all the old model pedals. I have the ms50g but actually want to get an ms70cdr. I dont really want the newer + models until someone figures out how to import and export the effects so they can be used on any device like the older gen
You can load the ms70cdr effects on the 50g (on the old models). I have the cdr and loaded up some distortions from 60b
Last edited by DJ18 November 30, 2024 at 09:49 AM.
I don't mean true bypass vs buffered bypass.
Not all digital pedals will digitize your dry signal, some of them will pass through the analog signal and combine it with the digital effects. For example, most Strymon pedals do this. This is desirable because digitizing the dry signal introduces latency with it. For example, most if not all multieffects pedals (Helix, Kemper, etc) have latency because of this. Not everyone will notice this latency but I certainly do. Anyway I found the answer to my question. This pedal does digitize the dry signal.
You have some super human ears if you are picking up the latency of these devices. How much time do you figure those devices are adding?
You have some super human ears if you are picking up the latency of these devices. How much time do you figure those devices are adding?
Well I'm not the only one who can. These devices usually add between a few ms up to around 10ms. This guy tested some of the popular pedals and made a chart showing how much latency they add: https://youtu.be/oU0-_3Hub9o
Some people argue it doesn't matter because if you stand 10-20 feet in front of a speaker then that will add the same amount of perceived latency.
My response to that is: What if you're using one of these pedals AND standing 10-20 feet in front of the speaker? Now the latency is doubled and is even more obvious! Personally I don't mind using digital modelers with headphones, but when using a speaker I prefer to avoid them.
Also I forget to mention in my original post that digitizing the dry signal can alter how it sounds. For clean and high gain tones you probably won't notice, but for crunchy tones you might. I know we're splitting hairs here, but there are quite a few people who claim that buffered bypass alters their tone. If that's true, then digitizing the dry signal will alter it even more so.
Again, we're splitting hairs here and for many people this stuff might not matter. But the guitar community has plenty of purists, so this info should be relevant.
Last edited by PT89 November 30, 2024 at 11:48 AM.
You are right we are splitting hairs. I would actually argue that isn't that relevant. Let's be honest, Any "purist" wasn't going to even bother with this device whether there was a perceivable latency or not.
You are right we are splitting hairs. I would actually argue that isn't that relevant. Let's be honest, Any "purist" wasn't going to even bother with this device whether there was a perceivable latency or not.
Well like I said I'm not the only one who can notice latency. It's relevant enough that Strymon went out of their way to design their pedals with this in mind. Might not be relevant to you, and that's fine. Just keep in mind that not everyone is you, and that's fine too.
Last edited by PT89 November 30, 2024 at 01:02 PM.
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You can load the ms70cdr effects on the 50g (on the old models). I have the cdr and loaded up some distortions from 60b
Yea I did that with the editor a while back The thing that sets the 70cdr apart is the stereo ins/outs for true stereo. I guess it's not really necessary in my case because I've just been running mono when I play hahaha.
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Not all digital pedals will digitize your dry signal, some of them will pass through the analog signal and combine it with the digital effects. For example, most Strymon pedals do this. This is desirable because digitizing the dry signal introduces latency with it. For example, most if not all multieffects pedals (Helix, Kemper, etc) have latency because of this. Not everyone will notice this latency but I certainly do. Anyway I found the answer to my question. This pedal does digitize the dry signal.
edit: Also forgot to mention that digitizing the dry signal can slightly alter how it sounds too.
Not all digital pedals will digitize your dry signal, some of them will pass through the analog signal and combine it with the digital effects. For example, most Strymon pedals do this. This is desirable because digitizing the dry signal introduces latency with it. For example, most if not all multieffects pedals (Helix, Kemper, etc) have latency because of this. Not everyone will notice this latency but I certainly do. Anyway I found the answer to my question. This pedal does digitize the dry signal.
Some people argue it doesn't matter because if you stand 10-20 feet in front of a speaker then that will add the same amount of perceived latency.
My response to that is: What if you're using one of these pedals AND standing 10-20 feet in front of the speaker? Now the latency is doubled and is even more obvious! Personally I don't mind using digital modelers with headphones, but when using a speaker I prefer to avoid them.
Also I forget to mention in my original post that digitizing the dry signal can alter how it sounds. For clean and high gain tones you probably won't notice, but for crunchy tones you might. I know we're splitting hairs here, but there are quite a few people who claim that buffered bypass alters their tone. If that's true, then digitizing the dry signal will alter it even more so.
Again, we're splitting hairs here and for many people this stuff might not matter. But the guitar community has plenty of purists, so this info should be relevant.
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