frontpageBenM2131 posted Dec 10, 2024 01:31 PM
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frontpageBenM2131 posted Dec 10, 2024 01:31 PM
Select Ford Dealerships: 2024 Ford Escape Plug-In Hybrid Electric Vehicle
(Offer Will Vary By Region)$29,995
$44,000
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Oh, and you can also run this hybrid (battery + engine on) and then you have a very efficient gas vehicle with the added power of electric. When it's cold (under 15 f) the car will not run in electric only - just hybrid.
But you could also never plug it in, and use it as a typical hybrid vehicle, where the regenerative braking (the otherwise wasted energy is used to recharge the battery) yields improved MPG.
...But if you really think you will never get any use out of it being a Plug-in hybridk, typical non-PH hybrids are always cheaper.
I plug it in to 110 (12A) outlet overnight and get a full charge in about 10 hours. Most days that I drive it I only use the electric power. On days I drive more or if I forget to plug it in, I just use the gas in the tank. It has a 9 Gallon fuel tank which gives about 325 miles of driving on gas.
When I go on road trips I put it in gas mode while I'm on the highway and save the battery for when I'm doing city driving or hit stop and go traffic. On long trips (600M) the volt averages about 40mpg of mostly gas driving.
Outside of long road trips I buy gas once every 3-4 months. My electric bill is high, but it's still only about $100/month in electricity for 30-50 miles of driving each day (California, 15c/KWh). I don't have severe winters where I live, so the cold is only a factor when I go to the ski hill.
If you truly intend to never charge the PHEV, then get a non-plug in hybrid instead. PHEV cars have a larger battery which means driving around more weight burns more fuel. If you're never charging that battery to full, then there's no use in hauling it around.
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$20 for 102 miles of range is painful. Assuming a similar small ICE CUV gets 30mpg and gas is $3 or less your gas bill would have been $10.
I love electric cars, I've had a few and will probably get another here in the coming weeks, but unless gas is very expensive in your state/city, the retail public chargers are an ass whipping of a price.
Buy a model 3 or a model Y instead.
They are both far superior when compared to this Ford.
There are lot of 2024 Edge SE models in the deal lots and are priced around 30K+TTL.
One of the local dealer listed 2024 Edge Elite with top of the line iterior and Tow package at 40K+ TTL(MSRP was 53K) and I'm wondering if that's a good deal.
Question:
how's the car working for you and and what kind of maintenance it requires apart from regular maintenance or what's the expensive repair/maintenance you have ever done with your Edge?
Good:
- in 2y of ownership I have gotten gas about 6 times when not using for a longer trip and that probably could have been stretched further since I fill up at about 1/2. honestly at this point, gas could be $5-6/gallon and I wouldn't care because it's a once every 60 days cost.
- torque and acceleration is unmatched on any vehicle I've ever owned. I cannot say this enough - if you are anti-EV and have not driven one, you need to drive one. these are not golf carts no matter how much some people want you to believe they are.
- good "dip a toe into EV" step. you don't have to charge it or worry about range or where the charging stations are.
Bad:
- small battery = fast charging right? the car isn't capable of taking the power as fast as a level 2 charger puts out, much less a level 3, so it takes 4-6 hours to charge for mileage that's ~1.5 gallon of gas. this Escape has the same issue.
- highway speeds eat the electric miles quickly
- janky things like... if you need to defrost the windows... require the gas engine. kinda kills the vibe when it kicks on and the throttle loses some of its responsiveness.
- still have to do fluid changes and worry about other maintenance as it's a full ICE as well. while we are all used to that kind of thing, imagine not having to take time out of your life to do that stuff.
- though you can charge at home, you have to remember to charge at home
TBH - I would love to buy a fully electric vehicle (Ioniq 5 is my favorite). whether or not you care about the environment or believe these are better for it is all irrelevant, these cars are iPhones compared to flip phone, are fun to drive and require only tires and brakes in maintenance.
but for now, the range anxiety... even though I've almost proven to myself that it's not something I need to worry about. battery tech + charging tech will improve to the point that this isn't an issue but it is now and I don't want to be stuck with a car that doesn't benefit from those advancements.
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Once I didn't have to gas up for over 4 months because all I needed was electric mode.
2 things that I really like over ICE cars: 1) noise level so much lower on EV; 2) torque/acceleration when you need to merge into a lane or get ahead. Not having to get gas every week is nice too.
I don't often go on road trips.
My general rule of thumb, if your hotel or AirBNB has public charging or a 120v readily available should be a breeze. Public Charging, look for places in route that are off the beaten path and check plugshare to see if the stations are operational. Unfortunately EVs do require some planning for a seamless experience
The federal tax credit is just there to reduce the initial pain of buying the more expensive-up-front electric drivetrain. As a society, we expect the net savings to make up for that incentive due to decreased pollution (which decreases healthcare costs, improves quality of life, etc).
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