frontpageBenM2131 posted Dec 10, 2024 01:31 PM
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frontpageBenM2131 posted Dec 10, 2024 01:31 PM
Select Ford Dealerships: 2024 Ford Escape Plug-In Hybrid Electric Vehicle
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Oh, and you can also run this hybrid (battery + engine on) and then you have a very efficient gas vehicle with the added power of electric. When it's cold (under 15 f) the car will not run in electric only - just hybrid.
But you could also never plug it in, and use it as a typical hybrid vehicle, where the regenerative braking (the otherwise wasted energy is used to recharge the battery) yields improved MPG.
...But if you really think you will never get any use out of it being a Plug-in hybridk, typical non-PH hybrids are always cheaper.
I plug it in to 110 (12A) outlet overnight and get a full charge in about 10 hours. Most days that I drive it I only use the electric power. On days I drive more or if I forget to plug it in, I just use the gas in the tank. It has a 9 Gallon fuel tank which gives about 325 miles of driving on gas.
When I go on road trips I put it in gas mode while I'm on the highway and save the battery for when I'm doing city driving or hit stop and go traffic. On long trips (600M) the volt averages about 40mpg of mostly gas driving.
Outside of long road trips I buy gas once every 3-4 months. My electric bill is high, but it's still only about $100/month in electricity for 30-50 miles of driving each day (California, 15c/KWh). I don't have severe winters where I live, so the cold is only a factor when I go to the ski hill.
If you truly intend to never charge the PHEV, then get a non-plug in hybrid instead. PHEV cars have a larger battery which means driving around more weight burns more fuel. If you're never charging that battery to full, then there's no use in hauling it around.
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I lease the Mazda CX90 PP PHEV and get about 30 miles on a charge, just enough for a daily commute. My electricity bill has increased about 50 bucks and I fill it up with gas once every 3 months. So the way I calculated it, it saves me about $60-70 a month.
If I want to take a long trip I dont have to worry about where to charge, I just fill up with gas
There's also a large difference in the quality of battery cooling and management between brands--- Teslas batteries, based on a fleet of millions now, show they still retain near 90% original charge north of 200,000 miles--- longer than most folks will own the car at all...so your FUD about needing to replace one after just 56k miles is simply nonsense.
On top of that Hybrids are slower, require more maintenance, and also catch on fire far more often than both EVs and ICE vehicles.
They're the worst of both worlds in most ways.
They're the futon of cars- not great at being either thing they try and combine.
EV's might as well be rented vehicles that you will have to buy a new car every 10 year (own nothing, be happy) a gas engine will last decades with proper maintenance.
EV's might as well be rented vehicles that you will have to buy a new car every 10 year (own nothing, be happy) a gas engine will last decades with proper maintenance.
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Check the Congo lately? Or what "clean biofuels" actually consist of?
What a joke. Go eat your beyond meat.
However, EV and hybrids are just a band-aid and only marginally better than gasoline vehicles. Nobody should be pretending otherwise. The infrastructure and tires alone are expensive and damaging. Not even including the electricity generation -- which to be fair is getting cleaner.
But to answer your question, the credit is non-refundable. Which means it will only reduce your tax liability to 0 but not below it, and for best effect your liability should be above the credit amount. With no tax liability, there is no value to the EV credit.
Drives nice. I'll add on a Ford premiumcare warranty from flood Ford for 6 years, 100,000 miles for about $1200 and should be good to go for the next 5-6 years. Jimmy and Cameron were my salesmen and they were beyond amazing to work with!!! Highly recommend machens Ford if anyone else is interested.
You can't be serious, there are over 300 millions cars in the US, tesla only produced 6 millions across the world.
It's crazy, but if you take a drive around SF bay are, you'll likely see what I mentioned 10-20% of cars being Teslas. Here's something interesting:
https://www.spglobal.com/mobility/en/research-analysis/firstever-major-us-metro-area-hits-50-electri... [spglobal.com]
It's crazy, but if you take a drive around SF bay are, you'll likely see what I mentioned 10-20% of cars being Teslas. Here's something interesting:
https://www.spglobal.com/mobility/en/research-analysis/firstever-major-us-metro-area-hits-50-electri... [spglobal.com]
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Drives nice. I'll add on a Ford premiumcare warranty from flood Ford for 6 years, 100,000 miles for about $1200 and should be good to go for the next 5-6 years. Jimmy and Cameron were my salesmen and they were beyond amazing to work with!!! Highly recommend machens Ford if anyone else is interested.
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