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Costco Members: Apple Mac Mini Desktop Computer: M2 Chip, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD (2023)

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Select Costco Wholesale Stores (link for reference only) have for their Members: Apple Mac Mini Desktop Computer (2023 Model, ‎MMFJ3LL/A, Item 1652668) for $299.97 (In-Store Only).

Thanks to Community Member rahmav001 for finding this deal.

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Specs:
  • Apple M2 Octa-Core Processor
  • 10-Core Integrated GPU
  • 8GB Unified Memory
  • 256GB Integrated NVMe PCIe Solid State Drive
  • 802.11ax Wi-Fi 6E / Bluetooth 5.3
  • Ports:
    • 2x USB Type-A
    • 2x Thunderbolt 4
    • 1x HDMI
    • 1x Headphone Jack
    • 1x Gigabit Ethernet

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  • About this deal:
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Select Costco Wholesale Stores (link for reference only) have for their Members: Apple Mac Mini Desktop Computer (2023 Model, ‎MMFJ3LL/A, Item 1652668) for $299.97 (In-Store Only).

Thanks to Community Member rahmav001 for finding this deal.

Note: Availability/price may vary by location

Specs:
  • Apple M2 Octa-Core Processor
  • 10-Core Integrated GPU
  • 8GB Unified Memory
  • 256GB Integrated NVMe PCIe Solid State Drive
  • 802.11ax Wi-Fi 6E / Bluetooth 5.3
  • Ports:
    • 2x USB Type-A
    • 2x Thunderbolt 4
    • 1x HDMI
    • 1x Headphone Jack
    • 1x Gigabit Ethernet

Editor's Notes

Written by SubZero5 | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • Please see the original post for additional details & give the WIKI and additional forum comments a read for helpful discussion.
  • About this product:
  • About this store:
    • If you don’t have a Costco Warehouse Membership, you can sign-up here
    • Details of Costco's return policy here.

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I do believe it's personal, based on how it's used and someone's financial situation.

- If you're doing anything taxing, M2/8GB might not make you happy. I had a similar spec MB Air M2/8GB that stunk for work. I used a lot of SaaS apps and did research, so lot's of browser tabs. And Zoom calls would have choppy video. I had to reboot daily to make sure things would keep running smooth. YMMV!

- $500 (if you buy student discount or at Microcenter etc) is 66% more than $300. If spending $300 on a computer is already a lot for you or budgets are tight, the extra $200 is a pretty big deal (and with the Costco warranty, this adds some extra protection without AppleCare). If you already aren't batting an eye at $500, and you want the added value of the new M4 and 16gb, then you're going to lean that way.

Is it right for you? Maybe. I think it's a matter of intended use and financial situation.
Would jump on this if it was 16GB
Hot take: if you don't know how much RAM you need, 8GB might just be sufficient for your needs. I still use my M1 Air w/ 8GB every day - it's gotten more usable with Chrome's new active tab suspension/management.

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$500 will be the best price next year.
Quote from import1411 :
You don't need to wait for a deal, buy it through apples education store for $499. They don't check anything

I bought the m2 8gb 8 months ago and apple is giving $260 for trade so I upgraded to m4 with 16gb of ram ( i was getting a lot of spinning with the 8gb for what I was doing )

Back then m2 16gb was $800 and now m4 16gb is $500. ( seems like one heck of a deal now compared to then )
Need that $400.
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But then you don't get MacOS; you have to deal with Windows.

No thanks.

But yes, I agree that the N100 makes a good Unix box too.
I would put Linux on it for sure. Ubunto pro now free for up to 5 devices it essentially patches your kernel live and auto-updates. Its great for remote servers then I just throw tailscale on it.
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Quote from dclive :
Skip the sarcasm.

There are many alteratives, including just getting an external SSD and putting MacOS on there.

The fearmongers act as if every SSD is about to fail. There are almost _NO_ large scale SSD failures. The _actual_ incidence rate of SSD issues is shockingly low - far lower than HDDs.

Yours is a solution in search of a problem.
In newer Macs (m-series) you cannot boot externally, because the SSD is part of the security enclave. If/when the internal SSD dies your Mac will NOT boot, full stop.

It is not widely known so I was providing knowledge, and some of the Macs only use a single SSD chiplet so it may only be able to write 80-100 TBW.

What most people don't know (again trying to impart some knowledge) with smaller RAM (like 8GB) running a few apps it will silently swap memory to the SSD and every time it does that it is a write. So even if you write 10 TB through normal activities, your swapping can happen fairly often and that will 100% shorten the life of your SSD because that can easily be 10's of TB.

Note: When the SSD dies since it is soldiered (the m4 is a package) you must bring it to an Apple repair shop and the repair will likely be the cost of the entire machine. And you would say the m4 is on a package. Great! You still can't buy it and the SSD is not a normal SSD (the controller is part of the enclave) you need special software to pair the new package, but guess what you can't buy them because Apple doesn't want you to buy a 1 TB drive for $80, they want to charge $600.

How do I know, my team has macbook and mac studio/mac mini and I have seen the repair costs for SSD failures and watch out if you have a Macbook pro and the screen dies, that is $1200.

For $300 it's not the end of the world, it is just unfortunate that they walk around w/ the green credentials and specifically create e-waste because repair is prohibitively expensive.

Personally I think it should be illegal for Apple and others to not allow for user-serviceable parts and specifically lock them so you cannot upgrade them. Hopefully the EU will crack down on this, because I am sure the US won't.
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Quote from elefante72 :
In newer Macs (m-series) you cannot boot externally, because the SSD is part of the security enclave. If/when the internal SSD dies your Mac will NOT boot, full stop.

It is not widely known so I was providing knowledge, and some of the Macs only use a single SSD chiplet so it may only be able to write 80-100 TBW.

What most people don't know (again trying to impart some knowledge) with smaller RAM (like 8GB) running a few apps it will silently swap memory to the SSD and every time it does that it is a write. So even if you write 10 TB through normal activities, your swapping can happen fairly often and that will 100% shorten the life of your SSD because that can easily be 10's of TB.

Note: When the SSD dies since it is soldiered (the m4 is a package) you must bring it to an Apple repair shop and the repair will likely be the cost of the entire machine. And you would say the m4 is on a package. Great! You still can't buy it and the SSD is not a normal SSD (the controller is part of the enclave) you need special software to pair the new package, but guess what you can't buy them because Apple doesn't want you to buy a 1 TB drive for $80, they want to charge $600.

How do I know, my team has macbook and mac studio/mac mini and I have seen the repair costs for SSD failures and watch out if you have a Macbook pro and the screen dies, that is $1200.

For $300 it's not the end of the world, it is just unfortunate that they walk around w/ the green credentials and specifically create e-waste because repair is prohibitively expensive.

Personally I think it should be illegal for Apple and others to not allow for user-serviceable parts and specifically lock them so you cannot upgrade them. Hopefully the EU will crack down on this, because I am sure the US won't.
Yeah Apple is the leader of the "green economy friendly" initiative but people don't actually know what that means.

It's basically a way for large companies to create industry regulations or credentials which is prohibitively expensive or shuts out other businesses from competing while they basically fake it and rather do the opposite aka Apple is not environmentally friendly at all.
It is basically serious collusion and conspiracy but they pay off the politicians and have strong lawyers and marketing personnel so good luck.
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Quote from elefante72 :
In newer Macs (m-series) you cannot boot externally, because the SSD is part of the security enclave. If/when the internal SSD dies your Mac will NOT boot, full stop.

It is not widely known so I was providing knowledge, and some of the Macs only use a single SSD chiplet so it may only be able to write 80-100 TBW.

What most people don't know (again trying to impart some knowledge) with smaller RAM (like 8GB) running a few apps it will silently swap memory to the SSD and every time it does that it is a write. So even if you write 10 TB through normal activities, your swapping can happen fairly often and that will 100% shorten the life of your SSD because that can easily be 10's of TB.

Note: When the SSD dies since it is soldiered (the m4 is a package) you must bring it to an Apple repair shop and the repair will likely be the cost of the entire machine. And you would say the m4 is on a package. Great! You still can't buy it and the SSD is not a normal SSD (the controller is part of the enclave) you need special software to pair the new package, but guess what you can't buy them because Apple doesn't want you to buy a 1 TB drive for $80, they want to charge $600.

How do I know, my team has macbook and mac studio/mac mini and I have seen the repair costs for SSD failures and watch out if you have a Macbook pro and the screen dies, that is $1200.

For $300 it's not the end of the world, it is just unfortunate that they walk around w/ the green credentials and specifically create e-waste because repair is prohibitively expensive.

Personally I think it should be illegal for Apple and others to not allow for user-serviceable parts and specifically lock them so you cannot upgrade them. Hopefully the EU will crack down on this, because I am sure the US won't.
Its even worse then that, any short will fry the Apple SSD lol.

The $300 M2 and iPad are ploy to get people into buying into the ecosystem and with 100%-500% tax .

These are excellent Apple machine when running, but a nightmare to fix like a Telsa.

For hassle free, get Latitude/Thinkpad with spare parts, Toyota/Honda.
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This is a decent deal for one main reason; its trade-in value for future mac minis will barely deviate from this clearance price. So if the machine works for you as is, you can trade for the m5 or m6 or whatever in the future and have lost almost nothing.

I got the m1 for $299 during the last clearance deal for my wife, and Apple is offering $225 for it during trade in. Thats not bad for a machine thats basically four years old.

I suspect that this m2 is worth even more in trade in value...you might even net positive trading it in to Apple (need serial number to confirm value)

I think paying $200 something every few years to have a brand new machine with 2x the performance or more aint bad...cant be matched by anything in windows land, thats for sure. For reference, my daily driver thinkpad P15 was well over $3k when I got it in 2021, and im lucky for it to be worth over $900 now.
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Quote from elefante72 :
In newer Macs (m-series) you cannot boot externally, because the SSD is part of the security enclave. If/when the internal SSD dies your Mac will NOT boot, full stop.

It is not widely known so I was providing knowledge, and some of the Macs only use a single SSD chiplet so it may only be able to write 80-100 TBW.

What most people don't know (again trying to impart some knowledge) with smaller RAM (like 8GB) running a few apps it will silently swap memory to the SSD and every time it does that it is a write. So even if you write 10 TB through normal activities, your swapping can happen fairly often and that will 100% shorten the life of your SSD because that can easily be 10's of TB.

Note: When the SSD dies since it is soldiered (the m4 is a package) you must bring it to an Apple repair shop and the repair will likely be the cost of the entire machine. And you would say the m4 is on a package. Great! You still can't buy it and the SSD is not a normal SSD (the controller is part of the enclave) you need special software to pair the new package, but guess what you can't buy them because Apple doesn't want you to buy a 1 TB drive for $80, they want to charge $600.

How do I know, my team has macbook and mac studio/mac mini and I have seen the repair costs for SSD failures and watch out if you have a Macbook pro and the screen dies, that is $1200.

For $300 it's not the end of the world, it is just unfortunate that they walk around w/ the green credentials and specifically create e-waste because repair is prohibitively expensive.

Personally I think it should be illegal for Apple and others to not allow for user-serviceable parts and specifically lock them so you cannot upgrade them. Hopefully the EU will crack down on this, because I am sure the US won't.
Your premise is wrong, so the rest of the information is largely wrong too. You can boot off external drives; works fine. Give it a shot on your Macbook or Mac Studio that you claim your team has.

Stop fearmongering. It's old, and it's completely wrong.

https://www.macworld.com/article/...drive.html
https://support.apple.com/en-us/111336

Trivial.
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Yeah Apple is the leader of the "green economy friendly" initiative but people don't actually know what that means.

It's basically a way for large companies to create industry regulations or credentials which is prohibitively expensive or shuts out other businesses from competing while they basically fake it and rather do the opposite aka Apple is not environmentally friendly at all.
It is basically serious collusion and conspiracy but they pay off the politicians and have strong lawyers and marketing personnel so good luck.
Your buddy's premise is wrong, and your feeding off of his same information makes your conclusions wrong too.

If no other machines had a web browser, you'd have a far more interesting point. As it is, the marketplace is wide open, and anyone is free to release an OS with a web browser, Office-style applications, etc. The fact that Apple is remarkably successful in doing so - at a price premium still, in some cases - is not a bad thing.
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This is a decent deal for one main reason; its trade-in value for future mac minis will barely deviate from this clearance price. So if the machine works for you as is, you can trade for the m5 or m6 or whatever in the future and have lost almost nothing.

I got the m1 for $299 during the last clearance deal for my wife, and Apple is offering $225 for it during trade in. Thats not bad for a machine thats basically four years old.

I suspect that this m2 is worth even more in trade in value...you might even net positive trading it in to Apple (need serial number to confirm value)

I think paying $200 something every few years to have a brand new machine with 2x the performance or more aint bad...cant be matched by anything in windows land, thats for sure. For reference, my daily driver thinkpad P15 was well over $3k when I got it in 2021, and im lucky for it to be worth over $900 now.
You won't; you'll get $240-260 right now for this from Apple, in a few years that will drop. That said, that makes the run rate to have a new machine every few years, straight from Apple, with trade-ins, about $100/year. That's cheap.
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Quote from dclive :
Your buddy's premise is wrong, and your feeding off of his same information makes your conclusions wrong too. If no other machines had a web browser, you'd have a far more interesting point. As it is, the marketplace is wide open, and anyone is free to release an OS with a web browser, Office-style applications, etc. The fact that Apple is remarkably successful in doing so - at a price premium still, in some cases - is not a bad thing.
Agree. For general users, they will not encounter the problem of SSD overwriting throughout the product life. Professional users will not buy low-spec products.
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Agree. For general users, they will not encounter the problem of SSD overwriting throughout the product life. Professional users will not buy low-spec products.
Exactly where have you seen this "SSD overwriting throughout the product life" ? Until just a few years ago I still had a raid set of SSDs from 2009. What problems, exactly, should we see by the tens of thousands or millions from old SSDs?

Right...we don't see that issue. Stop repeating the echo chamber. Find the facts. SSDs are remarkably reliable.
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Quote from dclive :
Your premise is wrong, so the rest of the information is largely wrong too. You can boot off external drives; works fine. Give it a shot on your Macbook or Mac Studio that you claim your team has.

Stop fearmongering. It's old, and it's completely wrong.

https://www.macworld.com/article/...drive.html
https://support.apple.com/en-us/111336

Trivial.
No I said that if the SSD (internal) dies your system will not boot. That is 100% true, and I also posit that a vast majority of people use the internal SSD for boot. You can certainly boot from an external SSD but that is not trivial to setup and you may have to downgrade the security and lose monitoring functionality. You advice is sound however, but on the face it is beyond stupid how Apple does business and they certainly do not expect people to buy a mac mini, then buy a thunderbolt/etc external drive then boot from it, then ignore or don't use the internal SSD.

Now we are talking border conditions, I can posit maybe 99.9999% use the internal SSD for the boot disk, so my premise and NORMAL use case still exists. You shouldn't send people into the briar patch for a mode of operation that practically nobody uses.
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The M2 is equivalent to a mobile i5 or mid-range Ryzen. $300 is basically what this is worth.
The M1 was faster than an i7 and even an i9 with some tasks. You're so far off with this comment.
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Quote from elefante72 :
In newer Macs (m-series) you cannot boot externally, because the SSD is part of the security enclave. If/when the internal SSD dies your Mac will NOT boot, full stop.

It is not widely known so I was providing knowledge, and some of the Macs only use a single SSD chiplet so it may only be able to write 80-100 TBW.

What most people don't know (again trying to impart some knowledge) with smaller RAM (like 8GB) running a few apps it will silently swap memory to the SSD and every time it does that it is a write. So even if you write 10 TB through normal activities, your swapping can happen fairly often and that will 100% shorten the life of your SSD because that can easily be 10's of TB.

Note: When the SSD dies since it is soldiered (the m4 is a package) you must bring it to an Apple repair shop and the repair will likely be the cost of the entire machine. And you would say the m4 is on a package. Great! You still can't buy it and the SSD is not a normal SSD (the controller is part of the enclave) you need special software to pair the new package, but guess what you can't buy them because Apple doesn't want you to buy a 1 TB drive for $80, they want to charge $600.

How do I know, my team has macbook and mac studio/mac mini and I have seen the repair costs for SSD failures and watch out if you have a Macbook pro and the screen dies, that is $1200.

For $300 it's not the end of the world, it is just unfortunate that they walk around w/ the green credentials and specifically create e-waste because repair is prohibitively expensive.

Personally I think it should be illegal for Apple and others to not allow for user-serviceable parts and specifically lock them so you cannot upgrade them. Hopefully the EU will crack down on this, because I am sure the US won't.
You can boot from an external drive on Apple Silicon. You just can't use Apple Pay or Apple Intelligence.
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