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expiredDr.W posted Jan 09, 2025 02:07 AM
expiredDr.W posted Jan 09, 2025 02:07 AM

Intel NUC Serpent Canyon Mini PC: i7-12700H, ARC A770M, 64GB DDR4, 1TB SSD

& More Configs + Free S/H

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Prycedin via eBay has Intel NUC Serpent Canyon Mini PC (Various Configurations) on sale below. Shipping is free.

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Available Configurations:Specs (64GB DDR4/1TB SSD Config):
  • 12th Gen Intel Core i7-12700H 2.30GHz (up to 4.7 GHz, 24MB Cache, 14-Core, 20 - Threads)
  • Intel ARC A770M Dual (Integrated+Dedicated) Graphics 16GB Memory
  • 64GB DDR4 RAM
  • 1TB PCIe NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive
  • Wi-Fi 6E AX1690i Wifi + Bluetooth 5.3
  • Windows 11 Pro
  • Inputs:
    • 6x USB 3.2 Gen2 2 x Thunderbolt 4
    • 1x HDMI 2 x DP Port
    • 1x Headphone/Microphone

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Prycedin via eBay has Intel NUC Serpent Canyon Mini PC (Various Configurations) on sale below. Shipping is free.

Thanks community member Dr.Wajahat for sharing this deal

Available Configurations:Specs (64GB DDR4/1TB SSD Config):
  • 12th Gen Intel Core i7-12700H 2.30GHz (up to 4.7 GHz, 24MB Cache, 14-Core, 20 - Threads)
  • Intel ARC A770M Dual (Integrated+Dedicated) Graphics 16GB Memory
  • 64GB DDR4 RAM
  • 1TB PCIe NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive
  • Wi-Fi 6E AX1690i Wifi + Bluetooth 5.3
  • Windows 11 Pro
  • Inputs:
    • 6x USB 3.2 Gen2 2 x Thunderbolt 4
    • 1x HDMI 2 x DP Port
    • 1x Headphone/Microphone

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supernoman
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Send like a homelab monster for cheap.
derricklocker
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Been eyeing the barebone for the last month or so. Was $519 until recently. Use one of these daily at work - plenty of power, but is definitely louder than Phantom/Hades in my experience.
Hesei
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This is just my own Intel NUC experience, and it's also in regards to the i9 NUC 11 Extreme (NUC11BTi9), so take it with a grain of salt.

I would not recommend Intel Extreme NUCs as anything other than homelab devices for hosting Proxmox and the like. Maybe as a media center / streaming PC, but that could be done better with a regular old NUC device.
For a desktop, there are much better, more versatile solutions at comparable or better pricing than this, here.


The intel NUC extreme I have (again, not THIS same model) is something of a train wreck.
Intel's own driver assistant doesn't fully recognize the hardware, so I've had to manually grab drivers for some updates (but not ALWAYS?).
It frequently encounters BIOS boot configuration issues even after updates and running on default settings - it will fail to boot and repeatedly cycle without input. Hell, even WITH user input, it will often fail.
And this is with JUST Windows, or JUST Linux Mint, or even attempting dual-boot with grub.

I have 7 other NUCs (Gen 8, 10, and 11) and all of the low-profile or "tall" variety. All of these are running my Proxmox cluster. They work so well, that I genuinely forget about them hanging on the wall beside the rack. I never have to deal with any BS boot or power cycling issues. The BIOS and drivers are work flawlessly. And all of them handle their USB and Thunderbolt devices without flaw.

The NUC Extreme (NUC11BTi9) has been a surprising disappointment, and I look forward to a new, full ATX build in the coming year.

TLDR: I do not recommend trusting Intel NUC Extreme devices as anything but homelab systems - look elsewhere if you want a desktop.

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Jan 09, 2025 02:16 AM
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derricklockerJan 09, 2025 02:16 AM
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Been eyeing the barebone for the last month or so. Was $519 until recently. Use one of these daily at work - plenty of power, but is definitely louder than Phantom/Hades in my experience.
Jan 09, 2025 02:33 AM
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supernomanJan 09, 2025 02:33 AM
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Send like a homelab monster for cheap.
Jan 09, 2025 06:08 AM
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jrtaitJan 09, 2025 06:08 AM
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It seems like the barebone system is the best deal? It seems like the A770m is ever so slightly better than GTX 1070? Interesting system, certainly.
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Jan 09, 2025 06:29 AM
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George_P_Burdell
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Jan 09, 2025 06:29 AM
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Quote from supernoman :
Send like a homelab monster for cheap.
get the lenovo p3 ultra. You can get around 600
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Jan 09, 2025 02:50 PM
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MaroonLocket1736Jan 09, 2025 02:50 PM
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Can an external GPU be connected to the thunderbolt 4 port?
Jan 09, 2025 04:18 PM
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geekwithoutacauseJan 09, 2025 04:18 PM
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Can this run proxmox and passthrough GPU ? Had a ton of issues last couple years where it kept breaking and it stopped working all together if you updated proxmox. How is it now?
Jan 09, 2025 05:21 PM
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HeseiJan 09, 2025 05:21 PM
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Our community has rated this post as helpful. If you agree, why not thank Hesei

This is just my own Intel NUC experience, and it's also in regards to the i9 NUC 11 Extreme (NUC11BTi9), so take it with a grain of salt.

I would not recommend Intel Extreme NUCs as anything other than homelab devices for hosting Proxmox and the like. Maybe as a media center / streaming PC, but that could be done better with a regular old NUC device.
For a desktop, there are much better, more versatile solutions at comparable or better pricing than this, here.


The intel NUC extreme I have (again, not THIS same model) is something of a train wreck.
Intel's own driver assistant doesn't fully recognize the hardware, so I've had to manually grab drivers for some updates (but not ALWAYS?).
It frequently encounters BIOS boot configuration issues even after updates and running on default settings - it will fail to boot and repeatedly cycle without input. Hell, even WITH user input, it will often fail.
And this is with JUST Windows, or JUST Linux Mint, or even attempting dual-boot with grub.

I have 7 other NUCs (Gen 8, 10, and 11) and all of the low-profile or "tall" variety. All of these are running my Proxmox cluster. They work so well, that I genuinely forget about them hanging on the wall beside the rack. I never have to deal with any BS boot or power cycling issues. The BIOS and drivers are work flawlessly. And all of them handle their USB and Thunderbolt devices without flaw.

The NUC Extreme (NUC11BTi9) has been a surprising disappointment, and I look forward to a new, full ATX build in the coming year.

TLDR: I do not recommend trusting Intel NUC Extreme devices as anything but homelab systems - look elsewhere if you want a desktop.
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Jan 09, 2025 07:22 PM
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CrowDazzleJan 09, 2025 07:22 PM
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For those that are not homelab eggheads, the barebones price is great if you are looking for a Windows equivalent to something like the Mac Mini. The core count and GPU will run Adobe's apps without any issues. Great little desktop workstation. For me this is quieter than the Hades Canyon. Since some one asked about eGPU's, I ran an eGPU on my Skull and Hades Canyon's without problems so there's no reason to think there would be issues doing the same here, but you'll need to ask yourself why?
Jan 09, 2025 07:38 PM
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DelightfulKitten221Jan 09, 2025 07:38 PM
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Does the barebones model come with windows 11? The product page does not say anything about windows.
Jan 09, 2025 07:44 PM
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SDSummerDayJan 09, 2025 07:44 PM
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keep in mind the 770m performs the same as AMD 890M APU found in HX370.
the newly announced strix halo is say to have the Radeon RX 6750 XT level igpu.
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Jan 09, 2025 07:47 PM
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PinakoJan 09, 2025 07:47 PM
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So, with this thing, could someone share some system RAM with the GPU to accommodate some LLMs? Or would it be unusably slow to access that system RAM over PCIe?
Jan 09, 2025 08:32 PM
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KatostrofikJan 09, 2025 08:32 PM
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Quote from Pinako :
So, with this thing, could someone share some system RAM with the GPU to accommodate some LLMs? Or would it be unusably slow to access that system RAM over PCIe?
I can't say for this specific PC, but that was my thought with Mac's unified ram. I have a 3090 in my main computer, but wanted more than 24GB VRAM. Getting more though, would be many thousands of dollars. So I bought a used M1 Ultra MacBook with 64gb unified ram. It definitely loads larger LLMs, but the speed isn't great. Interestingly, it's really hit or miss whether it's faster than my 3090 rig (with offloading), vs being fully loaded into the unified ram of the mac.

I'm guessing this would be similar. Could successfully load larger LLMs, but the overall speed wouldn't be impressive.
Jan 09, 2025 08:34 PM
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Viol8torJan 09, 2025 08:34 PM
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How does the performance of this unit compare to a newer mini PC like the MINISFORUM UM890 Pro?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product...DDH5S&th=1
Jan 09, 2025 08:37 PM
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PinakoJan 09, 2025 08:37 PM
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Quote from Katostrofik :
I can't say for this specific PC, but that was my thought with Mac's unified ram. I have a 3090 in my main computer, but wanted more than 24GB VRAM. Getting more though, would be many thousands of dollars. So I bought a used M1 Ultra MacBook with 64gb unified ram. It definitely loads larger LLMs, but the speed isn't great. Interestingly, it's really hit or miss whether it's faster than my 3090 rig (with offloading), vs being fully loaded into the unified ram of the mac.

I'm guessing this would be similar. Could successfully load larger LLMs, but the overall speed wouldn't be impressive.
I appreciate your input. I've definitely also entertained the thought of getting a M1 machine for this purpose. Now I'm wondering if a good iGPU connected directly to system RAM might perform better.

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Jan 09, 2025 10:07 PM
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fatbabyJan 09, 2025 10:07 PM
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Quote from DelightfulKitten221 :
Does the barebones model come with windows 11? The product page does not say anything about windows.
It is confusing because "barebone" can me a lot of different setups. This barebone has RAMs but not the storage. So, it means there is no place for the operating system. You should install the storage and the OS.

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