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Feb 26, 2025 12:46 AM
Sherwin Williams: Gallons of Paints and Stains (Various)
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As a DIYer she did not notice any great advantages for the additional price. Coverage was not as improved as we'd been led to believe either, she still wound up doing multiple coats.
I think for professional painters there is an argument where the small performance increase in coverage and workability is worth the stupid price. However, as a DIYers we felt damn near scammed by SW prices and that was prepandic.
We painted the rest of our interior with Glidden from HD and honestly we nore anyone who visits can tell the difference between that bathroom and the rest of the house.
My opinion is to check your other paint prices against even this 50% off. History of all products that command a premium this vast tells us that the premium is mostly marketing and pricing psychology. The value per $ is not there.
Durability is also largely a misnomer / marketing in paint. Outside of the gloss in the finish for wipabilty, brand differences in formulation are not going to make an iota of difference, the wear conditions are king. Eg adults vs kids, you're going to wind up repainting in the same amount of time.
Notes: Experience above is noting indoor painting only.
Who pays $119 for a $20 comforter. They will put it on sale for $89 and give you 40% off coupon and $10 Kohls cash.
SW routinely has 30% off and a few times a year 40% so it is pretty easy to get the paint at comparable prices to big box stores.
As far as durability, I have to say your statement is wrong. There is a difference in paint formulations, and you get what you pay for.
Not sure what SW paint you used as they have low end paint comparable to Glidden, but there is no comparison to Emerald
In my experience, SW has done 40% deals over the years. At least once a year, I think? Certainly 2012-2021. I haven't really bought paint since mid 2021.
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We have a commercial account with them and we have been getting cold called left and right about if we have any upcoming rental turns/renovation flips and if we wanted to discuss paint needs and work out special pricing for the job on top of our commercial pricing tiers etc. We don't have any paint needs right now.
We also have been getting calls from our painters and handyguys we use for misc jobs and repairs and rental turns. Everyones' work has dried up more than just seasonal dips. We don't have any work for them either.
Local builder who was building a bunch of townhomes, their project is now dead in the water, unable to proceed building the rest of them b/c he hasn't sold enough of the ones already built and the bank won't release his funds. That trickles down through the supply chain, to suppliers like Sherwin Williams. That's why Sherwin is hurting right now the most since contractors and builders/developers are their biggest customers and aren't buying, which literally equates to truckloads of unsold paint on a per store basis. Sherwin doesn't really care much about Jack and Jill new homeowners anymore, who come in just looking to buy 2 gallons of Emerald and a paint roller for their bathroom project.
The economy is really starting to decelerate and the consumer confidence report that came out earlier this week is just the tip of the iceberg.
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1) Yes, 30%-40% sales are very common. The sales are becoming less and less of a good deal though, due to the absolutely ridiculous price increases that Sherwin has implemented since covid (more than other paint companies). For example, in our commercial account tiered pricing, SuperPaint has gone up almost 50% since 2020
2) SuperPaint is what would be considered the base tier for residential. It's their residential "workhorse" paint so to speak, a mid or maybe low-mid grade wall paint that has very good properties for the price (good hide, good coverage, etc). SuperPaint Satin in many cases ends up being the "go-to" for walls. For flat look walls, many will instead go with Duration or Emerald Matte. ProMar 200 is most used by contractors due to their pricing tiers. Many painters, if you don't specify, will default to ProMar 200 even in residential, so their bids can be competitive. An old industry rumor that's been floating around for decades, is that actually ProMar 200 and SuperPaint were the same thing for years and the company would get away with charging homeowners more using the SuperPaint name (for years, the actual label even looked almost the same, graphically). Then supposedly the products deviated when ProMar200 was reformulated to eliminate most of the VOCs to be compliant with regulations for places like hospitals etc, SuperPaint did not go "zero VOC" since it wasn't required to.
3) Duration is a significant step up in paint over SuperPaint. Duration does have anti-microbial and easily washable properties and thus is ideal for bathrooms and kitchens. Besides that, Duration is used often in Matte for walls to give walls the art gallery look which still maintains durability and washability.
4) Emerald is their top tier paint line, however we have found the pricing not to be justified. Duration has performed top notch at a much lower price. In the high end homes in my area, what seems to be go-to for repaints for those is Emerald Matte.
5) The most popular sheen right now is Matte. If you go with a good quality paint, you can even get away with using Matte in bathroom or kitchen. We don't though, we will still do Satin or Semi Gloss in bathrooms and kitchens.
For very very high traffic areas, I highly recommend Sherwin's Scuff-Tuff. It's an enamel that cures very hard and is extremely resistant to scuffs. We use it in common hallways in our multi family apartments. It's extremely extremely durable. Tenant could be moving out an old piece of furniture and scrap against the wall, and it won't even leave a mark or it will be barely noticeable and will wash right off.
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Who pays $119 for a $20 comforter. They will put it on sale for $89 and give you 40% off coupon and $10 Kohls cash.
SW routinely has 30% off and a few times a year 40% so it is pretty easy to get the paint at comparable prices to big box stores.
As far as durability, I have to say your statement is wrong. There is a difference in paint formulations, and you get what you pay for.
Not sure what SW paint you used as they have low end paint comparable to Glidden, but there is no comparison to Emerald
I get the Kohls comparison, I used to shop there. The key there is "used to". I still have a big ones pillow or two, but I try to avoid stores that play those games now. I'm a slick dealer, so I love a good bargain hunt, but that shouldn't be what is required to shop in a particular store every day.
I'm not trying to knock those who like premium, I have some things in that range. For instance 90% of people would consider what I spent on a Mt. Bike crazy. But most people aren't interested in paying 50 - 100% more for a 15-20% performance gain. With my discerning taste it's too easy to post something that makes anything less seem unacceptable.
I guess that was the point of my post, for a vast majority, it's just fine. I haven't shopped paint in a few years but last time I checked HD regular Glidden prices still beat SW at 40-50% off. Is that incorrect today? (Admittedly to lazy to go price them, avoiding rabbit holes today)
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