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EcoFlow DELTA 3 Plus 1024Wh LiFePO4 Portable Power Station on sale for $629 - $94.35 w/ discount code
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About this Item:
- Dimensions: 15.7 x 8.3 x 11 in / 400 x 211 x 281 mm
- Net Weight (kg): ≤12.5kg
- Capacity: 1024 Wh
- 1-5kWh expandable with DELTA 3 Extra Battery, DELTA Pro 3 Extra Battery, DELTA 2 Extra Battery or DELTA 2 Max Extra Battery.
- Total Output Ports: 13
- AC Output: 6 outlets, 1800W total (Surge 3600W)
- Max Device(s) Power (with X-Boost): 2200W
- USB-A Output (Fast Charge): 2 ports, 36W Max
- USB-C Output: 2 ports, 140W Max
- Car Power Output: 1 port, 12.6V, 10A, 126W Max
- DC5521 Output: 2 ports, 12.6V, 3A Max
- AC Charging: 1500W
- Solar Charging: 2 ports, DC Charge Input, 11V-60V 500W Max
- Smart Generator Charging (1.8kW): 1500W
- Car Charging: 800W, in 1.3 Hour
- Battery Chemistry: LFP (LiFePO4 battery)
- Cycle Life: 4000 cycles to 80+% capacity
- Connectivity: APP (TOU / Storm Warning Alert)
- IP65
- UPS: <10ms
- Noise: 600W<30db; 1200W<40db
- Includes: 1x AC Charging Cable, 1x Car Charging Cable, 1x DC5521 to DC5525 Cable
Top Comments
the delta 3 plus is quieter.
the bluetti has only 4 (all of them grounded) ac outputs, while the ecoflow has six (only three grounded however, and three without the extra pin).
the ecoflow delta 3 plus has dual 140w usb-c ports, while the bluetti has only one 100w.
it's subjective, but most people are impressed with the ecoflow app, and the bluetti app is... meh.
once again, subjective, but i think the ecoflow styling on the delta 3 plus is more attractive than the bluetti. but to each his own. it makes no difference to me which one you buy.
p.s. i forgot, the ac 180 does have 1152 wh battery, while the delta 3 plus only 1024 wh.
so, the only reason to buy the refurb on ebay, is if you don't have to pay sales tax on ebay, or if you happen to live in a state where wellbots charges you tax.
so, yes, if you get charged sales tax by wellbots, then it would be cheaper to buy the refurb on ebay. for everyone who lives in a state which does not get taxed on wellbots, this is a far better deal.
the c1000 only has 600w dc/pv input, while this has 1000w (500w x 2).
the ecoflow has two 140w usb-c ports, the anker's are only 100w and 30w usb-c.
the delta 3 plus can charge with ac at 1500w vs. 1300w on the anker.
the delta 3 plus can do hybrid charging from both solar and ac at the same time. the anker can't do this.
the ecoflow is rated for 10ms ups, while the anker is 20ms.
the delta 3 plus battery is rated for 4,000 cycles, while the anker is rated for 3,000.
the delta 3 plus works with ecoflow's alternator charger, which is a great accessory. anker does not yet even offer an alternator charger.
most people consider the ecoflow app to be superior to anker's.
with regards to the delta 3 plus idle power usage, perhaps early on, with some pre-release or early units, i saw a couple reviews note the higher than normal self-consumption, but i believe this was addressed with a firmware upgrade. later reviewers show the idle consumption is not high or out of the ordinary.
i think i will do a test on mine, just to confirm.
i do like that the anker comes with a built-in light bar. i wish the ecoflow had that.
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I would say buy if you need before tarrifs hit. All brands are made in China.
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the c1000 only has 600w dc/pv input, while this has 1000w (500w x 2).
the ecoflow has two 140w usb-c ports, the anker's are only 100w and 30w usb-c.
the delta 3 plus can charge with ac at 1500w vs. 1300w on the anker.
the delta 3 plus can do hybrid charging from both solar and ac at the same time. the anker can't do this.
the ecoflow is rated for 10ms ups, while the anker is 20ms.
the delta 3 plus battery is rated for 4,000 cycles, while the anker is rated for 3,000.
the delta 3 plus works with ecoflow's alternator charger, which is a great accessory. anker does not yet even offer an alternator charger.
most people consider the ecoflow app to be superior to anker's.
with regards to the delta 3 plus idle power usage, perhaps early on, with some pre-release or early units, i saw a couple reviews note the higher than normal self-consumption, but i believe this was addressed with a firmware upgrade. later reviewers show the idle consumption is not high or out of the ordinary.
i think i will do a test on mine, just to confirm.
i do like that the anker comes with a built-in light bar. i wish the ecoflow had that.
EcoFlow refurbished has been great for me though. Couldn't tell it was refurbished.
Good to know, but even if the warranty isn't an issue, these batteries have a very flat charging profile. So unless you discharge and recharge it every so often it can't tell exactly how much charge it has. Ideally with software You could keep it at 90% most of the time, and once a month drop it down to 20% to profile the battery, but I don't think they have any automatic way to schedule that.
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now, i am aware that the credit applies to 3 kwh or larger batteries, and the built-in battery in this is only 1 kwh. however, some people total up all the battery capacity that they install for the year, and as long as it totals over 3 kwh, they take the credit on their taxes, so this unit could contribute 1 kwh to getting you over 3 kwh.
if, later on this year you purchase the 4kwh expansion battery that can be used with the delta 3 plus, that would give you a total of 5 kwh of installed battery capacity, which would put you over the 3 kwh.
btw, if i'm not mistaken, the anker c1000 can only add 1 kwh expansion to the c1000, doubling it to 2 kwh, while the delta 3 plus has better expansion capability, where you can expand it to 5 kwh.
now, i am not all that interested in paying the exorbitant prices for the proprietary add-on batteries, since i can use cheap non-proprietary lifepo4 batteries to infinitely expand the capacity of the delta 3 plus, but some folks are happy to pay more for the nice ecoflow branded ones, and they are more convenient, and match the style of the unit, and all the rest.
there are downsides to using plain lifepo4/lfp batteries to add capacity. for one thing, you have to come up with a way to charge them. the ecoflow add-on batteries fully integrate and communicate with the power station, so it automatically charges the extra battery when the power station is being charged from solar, the wall, etc.
also, when you take external lfp batteries and use them to charge up the delta 3 plus, you typically do it by plugging into the solar xt60i ports (that's the cheapest and most efficient way). this simulates solar, so the delta 3 plus thinks it's taking in solar, when you are actually charging it with any 12v, 24v, 36v, or 48v battery.
this simulated solar input will mix with the actual solar you've taken in or are taking in, so you have to manually try to calculate and keep track of how much actual solar you've taken in, and keep that separate from how much simulated solar you've taken in.
with the alternator charger, charging up the delta 3 plus from an external 12v or 24v battery (48v doesn't work with the alternator charger) you can keep track, as the app does break that input down separately.
so, if you like to use the ecoflow app to keep track of your daily (or even hourly) solar input, using the solar port to feed the delta 3 plus with external lfp batteries, will make keeping track of your actual solar input a bit confusing.
the ecoflow branded add-on expansion batteries are nice and convenient, but they are at least 3 or 4 times the price of a generic lifepo4 (or lfp, as they are also called) battery.
so, the only reason to buy the refurb on ebay, is if you don't have to pay sales tax on ebay, or if you happen to live in a state where wellbots charges you tax.
so, yes, if you get charged sales tax by wellbots, then it would be cheaper to buy the refurb on ebay. for everyone who lives in a state which does not get taxed on wellbots, this is a far better deal.
Thank you. Your write up helped me pull the trigger. Been waiting for a decent deal for a while for emergencies etc. Now i need to get a solar panel too
in an emergency grid-down situation, you could charge your delta 3 plus with up to 800 watts, as long as your alternator has enough capacity. you can adjust the charging speed to meet the capabilities of your alternator. if you have a smaller car with a smaller alternator, you can charge it from 100w to 800w in 50 watt increments.
as long as your base loads of your house are 800w or less, you could theoretically run whatever you need indefinitely, as long as your vehicle has enough gas. you would basically be using your car or truck engine as a generator, to charge the delta 3 plus.
or, instead of buying solar panels, you could spend the money on some spare lifepo4 batteries, and keep them charged up with an inexpensive battery charger, if you don't have solar to charge them.
then, when the power goes out, you could keep your delta 3 plus continually charged up using these external batteries, while you continue to power your loads with the power station. all you would need is a cable from the external battery or batteries, to the solar input(s) of the power station.
you can charge the delta 3 plus at up to 1000 watts from any 12v - 48v external battery or battery bank, if you have two cords connected to either one battery or multiple batteries, one for each 500 watt input.
if you have a large enough battery bank, you could feed the delta 3 plus around 24 kwh of input over a 24 hour period. of course, how you are going to consume 24 kwh with one power station without moving it around, is another story. you might have to run a ton of extension cords everywhere, or find a way to plug the power station into your main panel, to feed power to it to energize your circuits.
It used to be that refurbs get 5 yrs too but not anymore. It would have been a good deal.
however, with a 48 volt battery, or four 12 volt batteries wired in series at 48 volts, you can utilize the full 500w available per input, and with two cords, a full 1000 watts charge into the delta 3 plus.
if you want more than 360 watts using only a 12 volt battery, you will need the alternator charger, which will allow you up to 800 watts.
in an emergency grid-down situation, you could charge your delta 3 plus with up to 800 watts, as long as your alternator has enough capacity. you can adjust the charging speed to meet the capabilities of your alternator. if you have a smaller car with a smaller alternator, you can charge it from 100w to 800w in 50 watt increments.
as long as your base loads of your house are 800w or less, you could theoretically run whatever you need indefinitely, as long as your vehicle has enough gas. you would basically be using your car or truck engine as a generator, to charge the delta 3 plus.
or, instead of buying solar panels, you could spend the money on some spare lifepo4 batteries, and keep them charged up with an inexpensive battery charger, if you don't have solar to charge them.
then, when the power goes out, you could keep your delta 3 plus continually charged up using these external batteries, while you continue to power your loads with the power station. all you would need is a cable from the external battery or batteries, to the solar input(s) of the power station.
you can charge the delta 3 plus at up to 1000 watts from any 12v - 48v external battery or battery bank, if you have two cords connected to either one battery or multiple batteries, one for each 500 watt input.
if you have a large enough battery bank, you could feed the delta 3 plus around 24 kwh of input over a 24 hour period. of course, how you are going to consume 24 kwh with one power station without moving it around, is another story. you might have to run a ton of extension cords everywhere, or find a way to plug the power station into your main panel, to feed power to it to energize your circuits.
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I just want a way to be able to power up my routers/laptop in a power outage or another emergency. Just want to do more for disaster preparedness that's all.
Great tip on the alternator. I will look into that too as a backup to the backup power lol.
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I just want a way to be able to power up my routers/laptop in a power outage or another emergency. Just want to do more for disaster preparedness that's all.
Great tip on the alternator. I will look into that too as a backup to the backup power lol.
if you have the space, and don't mind handling heavier panels, it is much cheaper per watt, to buy the rigid residential-sized panels, like the ones folks put on their roof. they are much more durable and last much longer, for decades. those portable ones will not last many years.
you should be able to get the same wattage as those ecoflow ones for 1/4 the price.
that ecoflow 220w panel is an astounding $379.
with a rigid panel, you should be able to get a brand new 440w panel (double the output), for half that price on marketplace or craigslist, etc.
you can buy an eco-worthy 200w panel, for under a $100 on ebay. you should be looking to get solar panels at 50 cents a watt or even less.
for a $1.72 per watt, you are paying for the light weight and convenience of a fold up panel, and the ecoflow brand name.
if you must have a lightweight portable panel, this one would be a better value, in my opinion, at just over a dollar per watt:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product...547L7
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you don't need to spend a bunch on solar to just power up a router and a laptop. you can charge your laptop or your phone by simply plugging it into your car (assuming you have one). might need to start the engine occasionally to make sure the battery is not drained.
and this delta 3 plus comes with a car cigarette lighter charging cable, which will give you around 100 watts charging into the power station, to keep your phone, laptop and router powered up.
if you require more than the 1 kwh battery that comes with this delta 3 plus, you can buy a 12v 100 Ah lifepo4 battery, with 1.28 kwh of capacity (25% more than this power station), for under $100 on a good sale. then you will need a $10 cord to attach to the battery with an xt60i connector on the other end, to feed the solar input of the delta 3 plus.
you should be able to run your internet router and keep your laptop charged up for the entire day, just with the built-in battery. with a $100 external battery, you should be able to go at least a couple of days.
depends on many factors, such as, do you need your modem/router on 24 hours a day, or do you plan to only power it when you are awake? you could unplug it when you go to bed, or when you are away running errands, etc.