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popular Posted by WolfTheCat • May 13, 2025
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AMEX/Schwab Platinum Card - 125,000 point sign-up bonus

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Note: A regular AMEX platinum card will get you more bonus points, but normal MR points only pay $0.006 in cash per point as statement credit, but schwab platinum pays $0.011 in cash per point as deposit to a Schwab account. This makes this deal better for cash, but the other better for travel.
(Plain AMEX platinum deal here: https://slickdeals.net/f/18241999-amex-platinum-elevated-welcome-offer-of-175-000-points-instead-of-80-000)

Main Facts:
  • $695 annual fee, NOT waived for the first year.
  • Spend $8k on card in first 6 months for 125,000 membership rewards point bonus.
  • Rewards points may be redeemed as cash at $0.011 per point, deposited to Schwab account.
  • Requires a Schwab account.
  • Additional statement credits based on balance in Schwab account. $100 bonus for $250k balance, $200 bonus for $1M balance, $1k bonus with $10M balance. I'm assuming most folks won't get this bonus.
  • Earn one MR point per dollar in spend.
  • 2-5MR points per dollar spend on AMEX travel
  • $200/year back on fancy hotels
  • $200/year back on airline fees like luggage fees and such
  • $20/month streaming credit with streaming partners.
  • $199 CLEAR+ credit
  • Airport lounge access
  • Cellphone insurance
  • Global Entry/PreCheck fee credits
  • Hilton/Marriott gold status
  • Airline transfer deals
  • Trip cancellation and delay insurance
  • Baggage insurance
  • Includes Walmart+
  • A $200 Uber cash bonus I don't understand.
  • $300 Equinox credit (no idea what that is)
  • Other stuff
Cash value of bonus:
I don't travel, so I look at this as a pure cash play. Here's my math as to what the 125k points are worth "as cash" assuming you don't use any other benefits:
  • 125k points x $0.011 per point = $1,375
  • Less $695 annual fee
  • Less 0.9% to 1.9% opportunity cost for spending $8000 on this card for 1.1% cash back when you could have got 2-3% cash back:
Cash value: $528-$608

Realistically, some of those benefits will probably give you additional value. I'll probably take the streaming credit.

https://www.schwab.com/credit-cards
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Note: A regular AMEX platinum card will get you more bonus points, but normal MR points only pay $0.006 in cash per point as statement credit, but schwab platinum pays $0.011 in cash per point as deposit to a Schwab account. This makes this deal better for cash, but the other better for travel.
(Plain AMEX platinum deal here: https://slickdeals.net/f/18241999-amex-platinum-elevated-welcome-offer-of-175-000-points-instead-of-80-000)

Main Facts:
  • $695 annual fee, NOT waived for the first year.
  • Spend $8k on card in first 6 months for 125,000 membership rewards point bonus.
  • Rewards points may be redeemed as cash at $0.011 per point, deposited to Schwab account.
  • Requires a Schwab account.
  • Additional statement credits based on balance in Schwab account. $100 bonus for $250k balance, $200 bonus for $1M balance, $1k bonus with $10M balance. I'm assuming most folks won't get this bonus.
  • Earn one MR point per dollar in spend.
  • 2-5MR points per dollar spend on AMEX travel
  • $200/year back on fancy hotels
  • $200/year back on airline fees like luggage fees and such
  • $20/month streaming credit with streaming partners.
  • $199 CLEAR+ credit
  • Airport lounge access
  • Cellphone insurance
  • Global Entry/PreCheck fee credits
  • Hilton/Marriott gold status
  • Airline transfer deals
  • Trip cancellation and delay insurance
  • Baggage insurance
  • Includes Walmart+
  • A $200 Uber cash bonus I don't understand.
  • $300 Equinox credit (no idea what that is)
  • Other stuff
Cash value of bonus:
I don't travel, so I look at this as a pure cash play. Here's my math as to what the 125k points are worth "as cash" assuming you don't use any other benefits:
  • 125k points x $0.011 per point = $1,375
  • Less $695 annual fee
  • Less 0.9% to 1.9% opportunity cost for spending $8000 on this card for 1.1% cash back when you could have got 2-3% cash back:
Cash value: $528-$608

Realistically, some of those benefits will probably give you additional value. I'll probably take the streaming credit.

https://www.schwab.com/credit-cards

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May 13, 2025
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D3als0nWh33ls
May 13, 2025
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Quote from overzeetop :
If you don't travel, you're better off churning the Chase cards and swapping over to a held Ink Cash for the 1c/point cashout, unless you're just dying to burn your lifetime SUP with AmexPlat on a middling offer. It's really travel that makes these top tier cards pay out. I make my money back plus a bunch on VX every year w/o trying to churn it, and I've got a Bus Plat I'm seriously considering holding through the AF because I've worked them for a solid $1k in benefits this year not including the 250k point bonus.

Why ink cash vs any other chase card?
May 14, 2025
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KevoD
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Quote from MartinM7672 :
Business just had 200k signup..

300k*. 200k was the BRG.
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EagerMustang179
May 14, 2025
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Thanks OP. Can you share where you noticed that Schwab Platinum offers the Equinox credit? The T&C on AMEX's website indicates "Basic Platinum Card" - would this mean the regular AMEX Plat and not the Schwab version? Thanks
May 14, 2025
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overzeetop
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Quote from D3als0nWh33ls :
Why ink cash vs any other chase card?
If you just want cash in your pocket, like OP is after, it's still at a full 1c/pt. There are larger $ opportunities, but most of them are trading for GCs or merch or travel. I admit I have been stockpiling so I haven't used mine for cash lately, but Chase lets you consolidate points across cards and pers/bus accounts (ymmv, some restrictions now apply, you have to talk to a rep).
May 14, 2025
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cheshirecat
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Quote from WolfTheCat :
AMEX will restrict you to one platinum bonus per lifetime. You can ask AMEX to replace your current platinum card with a Schwab platinum card, but you won't get a sign up bonus for that. I think you will retain your MR points, but be sure to verify that when you switch - I am not 100% certain. The only downside to the Schwab card vs. the traditional card is that the AMEX offers may be slightly different or worse (or they might be better). Other options I have heard of but not verified or tried are: - If you have an AMEX checking account, you can get $0.008 per point, depositied to checking. - You can sell membership rewards points online, usually for over a penny a point. Google it - there are several buyers. Not sure how shady this may be, or how pissed AMEX will be for doing it. I personally would be reluctant to try it.
You can sell membership rewards points online, usually for over a penny a point. Google it - there are several buyers. Not sure how shady this may be, or how pissed AMEX will be for doing it. I personally would be reluctant to try it.
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cheshirecat
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Quote from WolfTheCat :
- You can sell membership rewards points online, usually for over a penny a point. Google it - there are several buyers. Not sure how shady this may be, or how pissed AMEX will be for doing it. I personally would be reluctant to try it.

Literally against the AMEX TOS.
The points broker buying points from you WILL eventually be identified, and your account WILL be banned. AMEX are very ban-happy. There are periodic waves of closures, and the latest one was recently, and it overwhelmingly affected Chinese users who abused the points earnings system with fake spend. Now they get to enjoy a lifetime ban.
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overzeetop
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Quote from cheshirecat :
Literally against the AMEX TOS.
The points broker buying points from you WILL eventually be identified, and your account WILL be banned. AMEX are very ban-happy. There are periodic waves of closures, and the latest one was recently, and it overwhelmingly affected Chinese users who abused the points earnings system with fake spend. Now they get to enjoy a lifetime ban.
Yeah, I was going legit. Like I said, the Chase 1c is a boring, guaranteed redemption value for cold, hard cash via ACH transfer. TBH, I still use 1c as my baseline "value" for points. I could argue that I redeemed my amex points last year for about 4 or 5c on BA, but since I'd never actually pay full price for that seat voluntarily, it's not really a true value. It's like using Chase points on sapphire at 125%/150% for Apple products. Except you're redeeming for MSRP, and nobody here on SD pays MSRP.

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Quote from EagerMustang179 :
Thanks OP. Can you share where you noticed that Schwab Platinum offers the Equinox credit? The T&C on AMEX's website indicates "Basic Platinum Card" - would this mean the regular AMEX Plat and not the Schwab version? Thanks
Schwab platinum T&C. It's there.
https://www.americanexpress.com/u...efit-terms
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Nostradel
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Quote from JonL4209 :
believe me or not, Amex is cancelling a ton of cards no matter how old you have been with them. I would say, take these offers ASAP that AMEX might dump you out of their system sooner or later regardless as they could consider all these slickdealers to be a type of "card misuse"

Glad to see $200 bonus for $1 mil account balance.
May 14, 2025
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mntbikeracer1
May 14, 2025
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$200 on a $1M transfer does not seem worth it.
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Dr. J
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Quote from cheshirecat :
Literally against the AMEX TOS.
The points broker buying points from you WILL eventually be identified, and your account WILL be banned. AMEX are very ban-happy. There are periodic waves of closures, and the latest one was recently, and it overwhelmingly affected Chinese users who abused the points earnings system with fake spend. Now they get to enjoy a lifetime ban.
Most point sales don't involve literally transferring points to someone else, which would be obvious if one person was getting points transferred from a bunch of randos. Instead, it's a broker that connects a seller (you) and a buyer (rando) that is looking to use points to buy a plane ticket. You allow them access to your account (the broker), they login and buy a ticket for the 3rd person. That 3rd person gives the broker say $1000, the broker gives you $900 and they keep $100 for their efforts, meanwhile the 3rd person saved $200 because they would have otherwise spent $1200 for the same ticket.

I'm not saying this isn't against the TC's but it's a lot more difficult to police since it's not like one person is at the center of it all. To amex it just looks like you are booking a plane ticket under someone else's name who could very well be a friend or relative.
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Knightshade
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Quote from overzeetop :
Yeah, I was going legit. Like I said, the Chase 1c is a boring, guaranteed redemption value for cold, hard cash via ACH transfer. .


There's other non-travel ways to get value from chase-- If you have a CSR you can pay yourself back at 1.25c a point for grocery and gas station purchases for example.

But even with a "regular" chase card it seems you'd be better off if you redeem the 1c point as statement credits instead of cash.

Because then you'd be earning the points for the things you buy- versus cash where you don't.

(I suppose you can charge to your cards anyway, then use the cash to pay them, but that seems like the same as statement credits but with extra steps)


Quote from overzeetop :
TBH, I still use 1c as my baseline "value" for points. I could argue that I redeemed my amex points last year for about 4 or 5c on BA, but since I'd never actually pay full price for that seat voluntarily, it's not really a true value. It's like using Chase points on sapphire at 125%/150% for Apple products. Except you're redeeming for MSRP, and nobody here on SD pays MSRP

I think if you travel this is flat out wrong....Even in coach you can get better than 1 cent a point (usually 1.5-2.5 cents a point)....Likewise for Chase you can get 2-2.5c at Hyatt hotels.

And while I agree I wouldn't pay full cash price for a business class seat I'd certainly pay more than I would for a coach seat, on a long trip anyway- so even if you don't "count" it as 5c a point for business it's at least worth more than the SAME ticket in coach for which you'd be getting 1.5-2.5c a point.

So it's tough to make much of a case for less than avg. 2 cents a point unless you're a non-traveller.
Last edited by Knightshade May 14, 2025 at 09:38 AM.
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Quote from mntbikeracer1 :
$200 on a $1M transfer does not seem worth it.

It isn't, but it's nice if you already have $1M with Schwab.

Nobody sane would transfer $1M for a $200 bonus.
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halluc1nati0n
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Quote from WolfTheCat :
Creating a Schwab account is easy. Free, no minimum investment.

I believe creating a Schwab account (brokerage) ends up being a hard pull.

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Quote from halluc1nati0n :
I believe creating a Schwab account (brokerage) ends up being a hard pull.
For a margin account, yes. But not for a cash account.

That kinda just makes sense - a margin account is a request for credit.

But, if you are really concerned about a hard pull, don't apply for an AMEX platinum card.
Last edited by WolfTheCat May 15, 2025 at 07:59 AM.

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