https://computers.woot.com/offers...cat_pc_7_1
Woot have the 2021 MacBook Pro 16" M1 Pro refurbished for $735. Eventhough its 4 years old, this is still a very capable laptop. If you need more storage, Amazon renew have the 1TB version for $850.
2021 Apple MacBook Pro
16" Retina Display, 120hz
Apple M1 Pro SOC
16gb RAM
512gb SSD
If you need the 1TB storage, Amazon Premium renewal has it for $850. This might be a better deal for only $100 more and better return policy.
https://www.amazon.com/Apple-MacB...r=8-6&th=1
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- M1 Pro is a pretty decent CPU, even today. Not as fast as the M4 base, but you'd be hard-pressed to notice an actual difference unless you're really pushing it to the max for extended durations.
- 16" MBP has absolutely EXCELLENT speakers, mic, and screen.
- 16gb ram/512gb ssd is very low-end for a MBP...but it's acceptable.
The Bad:
- It's a M1 Pro chip -- not the Max. The cores aren't that impressive (just a slight boost over the base M1), and it only supports two external displays.
- The price -- $735 is pretty expensive for what you're getting (see the ugly), when compared to a brand new M4 Air (13" or 15").
The Ugly:
- Woot's "refurbished" is a Spit n' Shine Garage Sale Refurbishment -- usually with more spit than shine. Expect the machine to be beat up...and it's a 5-year old machine. I'm sure it has a great warranty though to offset this risk....
- It has a very poor 90-day warranty. So no peace of mind there. And Woot/Amazon's returns are annoying at best -- speaking from experience. They'll do anything they can to deny a return for a refurbished product by claiming "that's expected from a refurb!" or language of the sort.
There are better "refurbs" out there from ebay sellers -- for roughly $1400 you can get a 16" M1 Max w/ 64gb ram + 1tb/2tb SSD. This is a serious workhorse. And it comes with a ONE YEAR "All States" warranty. Or for much less, you can get similar machines to this spec.
And if you're on a budget, getting a 13"-15" M4 Air is going to outperform all the M1 chips on nearly every benchmark (save for a select few)....but more importantly, it'll be brand new with the option for Applecare.
The M1Max is an overkill for most people and you're talking about double the money.
This may not be for everyone but if you want a large 16" screen (mini-led, 120hz display)with decent ports (3 TB ports, HDMI,SD card reader), with adequate RAM and storage (16gb/512gb), and don't want a dongle life, this isn't a bad deal.
If you need a 1TB, Amazon Premium renewal has it for $850. No new Apple product can touch that.
And if you're on a budget, getting a 13"-15" M4 Air is going to outperform all the M1 chips on nearly every benchmark (save for a select few)....but more importantly, it'll be brand new with the option for Applecare.
A brand new M4 13" is still $799 when on sale while a 15" is $999 with only 16gb RAM/256gb SSD.. Both are more expensive and yes, they have a better warranty and CPU performance will out perform this M1 Pro 16".
The M1Max is an overkill for most people and you're talking about double the money.
This may not be for everyone but if you want a large 16" screen (mini-led, 120hz display)with decent ports (3 TB ports, HDMI,SD card reader), with adequate RAM and storage (16gb/512gb), and don't want a dongle life, this isn't a bad deal.
If you need a 1TB, Amazon Premium renewal has it for $850. No new Apple product can touch that.
And like I said, if you check ebay, there are many options between the two prices. But that's ok, don't comment on that detail. Latch onto the "max" part.
And there's a reason why no new Apple product can touch that. (aside from Apple just being nigh criminal with their pricing). Look at who you're buying it from....Amazon. Look at the condition.....used.
I mean, you want to roll those dice, go right ahead. But do so with both eyes wide open.
...what a hill to defend too, right? A heavily used, five-year-old laptop.
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