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Various Retailers have Epson EpiqVision Ultra LS6504K PRO-UHDUltra Short Throw 3-Chip 3LCD Smart Streaming Laser Projector for $1499.99. Shipping is free.
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"Laser ones" are the same as any other projector, if you want to view in a non completely darkened room get 3000+ lumens. This one has 3600 lumens so should look great in a room even with normal lighting. I wouldn't have the sun shining directly on the screen from a window but other than that should be fine. I read with curtains drawn part just using that as an example. 1500 lumens or less and you need a completely dark room even light up remotes can wash out the image. 1500-2500 is ok for very low lighting like a 10 watt led light that is not hitting the screen. 3000 and up is ok with regular room lighting and 5000+ is probably good outside in July but I never forked over enough to buy a 5k lumen projector. My Golf simulator projector is 4K lumens and realistically I can't tell the difference between that and a 3k lumen projector in my living room so there does seem to be diminishing returns over 3000. Also keep in mind I am talking lumens from reputable companies like Epson, Sanyo, LG, Sony ETC the random Amazon projector lumens are just lies! Ultra Short projectors like this one really need a permanent rigid screen as any tiny wrinkle in the screen will be greatly exaggerated on the projected image. The screen to use with a UST can easily cost as much as this projector! The positives about a laser is you never need to change the bulb. a regular projector if watched like a TV will need a new $400 bulb ever year maybe every other year. a Laser projector laser can last many years. They will last longer if ran in economy mode (so the 3600 lumen projector will output maybe 2000 lumens in eco) or less than advertised if ran at max output. The bad thing is when the laser goes out that projector is Ewaste! There is no fixing it!
I currently use a UST projector in my bedroom and I really like it, as long as you understand what you're getting. Basically, it is a projector that functions as an easier tv replacement because it sits in the same location as a tv would. Basically, it's a really big tv that disappears when you're not using it.
How is laser ones for daytime viewing with drawn curtians?
I used to have 5040ub, great LCD machine but still needed near total dark room to perform the best.
How is laser ones for daytime viewing with drawn curtians?
I can't speak on this projector, but I have a Optoma Cinemax Pro and with an ALR screen my daytime viewing is excellent. You're obviously not going to get the same quality from having an OLED, but having a large screen (100"+) is better in its own ways, each have their nuance.
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How is laser ones for daytime viewing with drawn curtians?
I used to have 5040ub, great LCD machine but still needed near total dark room to perform the best.
"Laser ones" are the same as any other projector, if you want to view in a non completely darkened room get 3000+ lumens. This one has 3600 lumens so should look great in a room even with normal lighting. I wouldn't have the sun shining directly on the screen from a window but other than that should be fine. I read with curtains drawn part just using that as an example. 1500 lumens or less and you need a completely dark room even light up remotes can wash out the image. 1500-2500 is ok for very low lighting like a 10 watt led light that is not hitting the screen. 3000 and up is ok with regular room lighting and 5000+ is probably good outside in July but I never forked over enough to buy a 5k lumen projector. My Golf simulator projector is 4K lumens and realistically I can't tell the difference between that and a 3k lumen projector in my living room so there does seem to be diminishing returns over 3000. Also keep in mind I am talking lumens from reputable companies like Epson, Sanyo, LG, Sony ETC the random Amazon projector lumens are just lies! Ultra Short projectors like this one really need a permanent rigid screen as any tiny wrinkle in the screen will be greatly exaggerated on the projected image. The screen to use with a UST can easily cost as much as this projector! The positives about a laser is you never need to change the bulb. a regular projector if watched like a TV will need a new $400 bulb ever year maybe every other year. a Laser projector laser can last many years. They will last longer if ran in economy mode (so the 3600 lumen projector will output maybe 2000 lumens in eco) or less than advertised if ran at max output. The bad thing is when the laser goes out that projector is Ewaste! There is no fixing it!
How is laser ones for daytime viewing with drawn curtians?
I used to have 5040ub, great LCD machine but still needed near total dark room to perform the best.
3600 Lumens is quite bright. Should give you pretty decent daytime viewing with closed curtains. Since your previous projector was 3600 lumens, just imagine that it is like 38% brighter. Plus because a UST is right up against the wall, it may appear even brighter I think.
I currently use a UST projector in my bedroom and I really like it, as long as you understand what you're getting. Basically, it is a projector that functions as an easier tv replacement because it sits in the same location as a tv would. Basically, it's a really big tv that disappears when you're not using it.
I can't speak on this projector, but I have a Optoma Cinemax Pro and with an ALR screen my daytime viewing is excellent. You're obviously not going to get the same quality from having an OLED, but having a large screen (100"+) is better in its own ways, each have their nuance.
Spot on, while i was building my home theater room it was a tough decision between oled 77" and 120" projector screen, especially my current setup is OLED. I went for 120" projector screen because of the real cinema experience with bigger screen and very happy with it
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I can't speak on this projector, but I have a Optoma Cinemax Pro and with an ALR screen my daytime viewing is excellent. You're obviously not going to get the same quality from having an OLED, but having a large screen (100"+) is better in its own ways, each have their nuance.
Spot on, while i was building my home theater room it was a tough decision between oled 77" and 120" projector screen, especially my current setup is OLED. I went for 120" projector screen because of the real cinema experience with bigger screen and very happy with it
I recently replaced an 85in Hisense TV with a 77B4 and feel kinda disappointed but it's mostly my fault bc the room has 6 tall windows I didn't consider. Size and brightness plays a big part. Glad to see USTs go on sale like this bc mine is starting to get old.
My understanding is that you have to have a really good screen for UST which costs another $1k or so. With regular projector, I just project onto the wall and the result is already pretty good for me. Even the screen for regular projector is much cheaper.
I wonder how this would compare to the original Vava circa 2019. Mine is starting to show its age. Would love something with native android. Tho it looks like reviews say it's laggy.
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might as well just buy a 98 inch tv for $1800 and not deal with all of this. no hdmi 2.1 on this? wow.
I have an Optoma Cinemax P2 UST with a Vividstorm 120" motorized screen.
While it's awesome, and there's a definite wow factor… if I had to do it over again, I'd get a 98" TV as well. The TV's pic quality will be better in almost every situation. Don't get me wrong, the projector has awesome picture quality… but it just doesn't compare to a good TV.
I have an 82" Sony in my loft and a 75" in my master bedroom… I much prefer watching on either one of those vs the projector. The TVs have more "pop" in their picture.
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How is laser ones for daytime viewing with drawn curtians?
I used to have 5040ub, great LCD machine but still needed near total dark room to perform the best.
"Laser ones" are the same as any other projector, if you want to view in a non completely darkened room get 3000+ lumens. This one has 3600 lumens so should look great in a room even with normal lighting. I wouldn't have the sun shining directly on the screen from a window but other than that should be fine. I read with curtains drawn part just using that as an example. 1500 lumens or less and you need a completely dark room even light up remotes can wash out the image. 1500-2500 is ok for very low lighting like a 10 watt led light that is not hitting the screen. 3000 and up is ok with regular room lighting and 5000+ is probably good outside in July but I never forked over enough to buy a 5k lumen projector. My Golf simulator projector is 4K lumens and realistically I can't tell the difference between that and a 3k lumen projector in my living room so there does seem to be diminishing returns over 3000. Also keep in mind I am talking lumens from reputable companies like Epson, Sanyo, LG, Sony ETC the random Amazon projector lumens are just lies! Ultra Short projectors like this one really need a permanent rigid screen as any tiny wrinkle in the screen will be greatly exaggerated on the projected image. The screen to use with a UST can easily cost as much as this projector! The positives about a laser is you never need to change the bulb. a regular projector if watched like a TV will need a new $400 bulb ever year maybe every other year. a Laser projector laser can last many years. They will last longer if ran in economy mode (so the 3600 lumen projector will output maybe 2000 lumens in eco) or less than advertised if ran at max output. The bad thing is when the laser goes out that projector is Ewaste! There is no fixing it!
Regular projector bulbs don't need to be replaced annually, not even close. Unless you're using it 24/7. My current projector is on year 5 and never had to replace the bulb. My last one lasted 7 years with one bulb replacement for like a hundred bucks.
3500 lumens will work in the daytime with all the curtains closed, except it won't work for dark scenes in that environment.
120" projector setup is no longer worth it under any circumstances now that 100 inch TVs are so cheap. I probably wouldn't go for a projector unless I could set up a 150 inch screen. Remember, the blacks from a projector are only as dark as your white screen. Which means they always suck. Grey screens don't help much either, I've tried it.
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Most schools are doing away with projectors and just using TVs, which speaks volumes.
Mounting TVs are much more simple than mounting projectors… I've had both regular and UST projectors… they are finicky to set up, notwithstanding all the wires, cables, power and computers and what other devices to attach to it. A TV is set it and forget it.
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I used to have 5040ub, great LCD machine but still needed near total dark room to perform the best.
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I can't speak on this projector, but I have a Optoma Cinemax Pro and with an ALR screen my daytime viewing is excellent. You're obviously not going to get the same quality from having an OLED, but having a large screen (100"+) is better in its own ways, each have their nuance.
Spot on, while i was building my home theater room it was a tough decision between oled 77" and 120" projector screen, especially my current setup is OLED. I went for 120" projector screen because of the real cinema experience with bigger screen and very happy with it
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While it's awesome, and there's a definite wow factor… if I had to do it over again, I'd get a 98" TV as well. The TV's pic quality will be better in almost every situation. Don't get me wrong, the projector has awesome picture quality… but it just doesn't compare to a good TV.
I have an 82" Sony in my loft and a 75" in my master bedroom… I much prefer watching on either one of those vs the projector. The TVs have more "pop" in their picture.
How is laser ones for daytime viewing with drawn curtians?
I used to have 5040ub, great LCD machine but still needed near total dark room to perform the best.
"Laser ones" are the same as any other projector, if you want to view in a non completely darkened room get 3000+ lumens. This one has 3600 lumens so should look great in a room even with normal lighting. I wouldn't have the sun shining directly on the screen from a window but other than that should be fine. I read with curtains drawn part just using that as an example. 1500 lumens or less and you need a completely dark room even light up remotes can wash out the image. 1500-2500 is ok for very low lighting like a 10 watt led light that is not hitting the screen. 3000 and up is ok with regular room lighting and 5000+ is probably good outside in July but I never forked over enough to buy a 5k lumen projector. My Golf simulator projector is 4K lumens and realistically I can't tell the difference between that and a 3k lumen projector in my living room so there does seem to be diminishing returns over 3000. Also keep in mind I am talking lumens from reputable companies like Epson, Sanyo, LG, Sony ETC the random Amazon projector lumens are just lies! Ultra Short projectors like this one really need a permanent rigid screen as any tiny wrinkle in the screen will be greatly exaggerated on the projected image. The screen to use with a UST can easily cost as much as this projector! The positives about a laser is you never need to change the bulb. a regular projector if watched like a TV will need a new $400 bulb ever year maybe every other year. a Laser projector laser can last many years. They will last longer if ran in economy mode (so the 3600 lumen projector will output maybe 2000 lumens in eco) or less than advertised if ran at max output. The bad thing is when the laser goes out that projector is Ewaste! There is no fixing it!
3500 lumens will work in the daytime with all the curtains closed, except it won't work for dark scenes in that environment.
120" projector setup is no longer worth it under any circumstances now that 100 inch TVs are so cheap. I probably wouldn't go for a projector unless I could set up a 150 inch screen. Remember, the blacks from a projector are only as dark as your white screen. Which means they always suck. Grey screens don't help much either, I've tried it.
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