Other option for freeloaders, like me, is to use keepass/keepassXC . Have the password file sync across devices with dropbox/google drive etc. Forever free. Open source so vetted by security experts. Can import/export data if you want to switch either way. And not bound a single cloud platform/subscription.
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Something to consider. If we will be forced into the Cloud anyway, might as well test the water with Proton Pass while keeping the more sensitive stuff with standalone 1Password on our own devices. Proton Pass free version allows unlimited logins on unlimited devices which may be all you need, as long as you're okay with having only two folders/vaults. Their paid version allows up to 50 folders/vaults (they said you can ask for more if needed) and they often have Lifetime Pass offer that would breakeven after 5.5 years.
Proton Pass wasn't even on my radar, I'll have to take a look. Thanks for mentioning it!
Proton Pass wasn't even on my radar, I'll have to take a look. Thanks for mentioning it!
"your 128-bit Secret Key, which is combined with your account password to encrypt your data". But you better be using a good master password.
99.99% of the people that do this end up reusing passwords across websites and/or storing them insecurely (e.g. underside of their keyboard), which is about the worst thing you can do.
For places that still require passwords: how are you (a) ensuring they're different across websites (b) protected from data loss and (c) encrypted at rest?
Costs me NOTHING each year.
No online transmission/storage/vaults, no syncing between systems, no remote access.
I do not do anything on my mobile since I never had it surgically attached to my had (if the mobile gets lost/stolen/inspected by border control -- there's nothing of value even on there). So there's no reason at all to have remote access to my passwords -- that sounds like a recipe for disaster!
You need access to my physical address (good luck, at best you'll be a tasty treat for a canine...or at worst, well let's not go there cowboy!), you need to know WHERE that book is, you need to know WHAT it contains, and you need to be able to decipher it since it's not human readable.
At that point, I'm more likely to have my personal information lost in an internal breech on their website than through any method of storing passwords. It's the strongest, most fortified gate in the world.....with a rotten, half-standing wood picket fence next to it.
And it costs me nothing each year.
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Costs me NOTHING each year.
No online transmission/storage/vaults, no syncing between systems, no remote access.
I do not do anything on my mobile since I never had it surgically attached to my had (if the mobile gets lost/stolen/inspected by border control -- there's nothing of value even on there). So there's no reason at all to have remote access to my passwords -- that sounds like a recipe for disaster!
You need access to my physical address (good luck, at best you'll be a tasty treat for a canine...or at worst, well let's not go there cowboy!), you need to know WHERE that book is, you need to know WHAT it contains, and you need to be able to decipher it since it's not human readable.
At that point, I'm more likely to have my personal information lost in an internal breech on their website than through any method of storing passwords. It's the strongest, most fortified gate in the world.....with a rotten, half-standing wood picket fence next to it.
And it costs me nothing each year.
Good point! I hadn't really given much thought to trying to migrate to something else because I really do like 1Password and I really, really didn't want to deal with trying to migrate to something else.. As you said though, the continually degrading extension support has been getting really annoying. Manual copy & paste works, but it really would be nice to have a functioning extension in all browsers again.<br />
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Proton Pass wasn't even on my radar, I'll have to take a look. Thanks for mentioning it!
Thanks for any input.
Costs me NOTHING each year.
No online transmission/storage/vaults, no syncing between systems, no remote access.
I do not do anything on my mobile since I never had it surgically attached to my had (if the mobile gets lost/stolen/inspected by border control -- there's nothing of value even on there). So there's no reason at all to have remote access to my passwords -- that sounds like a recipe for disaster!
You need access to my physical address (good luck, at best you'll be a tasty treat for a canine...or at worst, well let's not go there cowboy!), you need to know WHERE that book is, you need to know WHAT it contains, and you need to be able to decipher it since it's not human readable.
At that point, I'm more likely to have my personal information lost in an internal breech on their website than through any method of storing passwords. It's the strongest, most fortified gate in the world.....with a rotten, half-standing wood picket fence next to it.
And it costs me nothing each year.
I'm with you to a point...I'm quite happy with my laptop implementation, but my wife is resistant to using it when applied within my home network configuration and central storage. Having a secure, remote, implementation with an easy to use interface may be exactly what she needs...will investigate further, but only make the change when satisfied. Your dogs are for loving...your encryption is your security.
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There was a period where you could purchase standalone or subscription, but the way to buy the standalone license differed from every single other version prior. Trying to look up how to buy a standalone license on the web site simply said (in the fine print) that the option was available. Skimming through the forums there were a ton of POd people bitching about it and 1PW staff consistently only talked about the pros and benefits of going cloud-based subscription. I never found a single instance where 1PW staff guided someone to how to purchase the standalone, or really even acknowledge that the option even existed. I finally happened (by accident!) to run across the spot where you could buy the standalone license but at that point it was no longer an option.
I understand their need for recurring revenue and eventual migration toward subscription/cloud-based, and was even happy that they were coming up with their own cloud solution with things like travel-mode, but how they handled that migration period felt really scummy and dishonest to me. The product page would say you could purchase a perpetual license, but not once did I find how to do it on their web site. I looked periodically over several months and -never- saw it documented or explained anywhere. Skimming through the forums I found very consistent responses from 1PW staff about all of the benefits and reasons for going cloud-based, which of course meant it had to be subscription-based, but not once did I see them say "Oh well, here's how to get standalone instead." The consistency with the messaging from 1PW staff pushing people toward cloud/subscription, and never mentioning that standalone was even an option still, was remarkable.
Hell, I even decided to give it a shot earlier this year and installed it. The very first thing I noticed was that it was impossible to keep anything local. ALL vaults have to be stored in the cloud. Based on how it purposefully caches the vault locally so it can still function when not connected to a network seems to imply that they could support local vaults, they just refuse to. Oh, and it really, really didn't want to let me keep the old version installed to use in parallel with the new version. I imagine there is a technical reason for that, but the combination of refusing to support local vaults AND refusing to allow me to keep the old software installed so I could have a local-only vault reignited the dying embers of my anger and I promptly uninstalled it.
I doubt my ranting was helpful to anyone but I did it to make a point (and because I really am still super annoyed and needed to vent). The point is I like the software and company enough, their security model is well thought out & explained, and this deal is good enough, that I -might- finally try the cloud version and (maybe) give up my standalone version.
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