Canon EOS R8 Mirrorless Camera with RF 24-50mm f/4.5-6.3 IS STM Lens $1489

mrtramplefoot

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mrtramplefootOct 18, 2025 11:20 AM

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What is with the aperture on this lens? That is an impressively cheapo kit lens, especially for full frame...

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Quote from mrtramplefoot

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What is with the aperture on this lens? That is an impressively cheapo kit lens, especially for full frame...

At the shortest focal length, 24 mm, the largest aperture size is 4.5. At any focal length longer than that, the maximum aperture size is 6.3. Under bright conditions, this will not be an issue. At night or low lighting conditions, you'll have to expose longer or increase the ISO, meaning possibly blurry or noisy images.

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I've been using Canon DSLRS and Mirrorless cameras for 25 years, and have too much gear too move on to a different platform. But if you are new to a mirrorless system and not yet locked in to any platform, definitely read up before you lock into the Canon ecosystem. You will get a lot more value for your money from other camera systems that are open to external lens manufacturers. You will get a lot more bang for your buck with the features offered in other every level cameras. Definitely look up Lumix as one option, and recent articles also mention that Nikon is aggressively pricing their feature packed cameras. Canon's strategy is to offer cheap entry level cameras to lock consumers in, and when they want to upgrade to a better camera or to a full frame mirrorless, they get you with ridiculous prices and no third party lens options. And that's the very expensive lesson that I learned.

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SmilingChannel2488

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I've been using Canon DSLRS and Mirrorless cameras for 25 years, and have too much gear too move on to a different platform. But if you are new to a mirrorless system and not yet locked in to any platform, definitely read up before you lock into the Canon ecosystem. You will get a lot more value for your money from other camera systems that are open to external lens manufacturers. You will get a lot more bang for your buck with the features offered in other every level cameras. Definitely look up Lumix as one option, and recent articles also mention that Nikon is aggressively pricing their feature packed cameras. Canon's strategy is to offer cheap entry level cameras to lock consumers in, and when they want to upgrade to a better camera or to a full frame mirrorless, they get you with ridiculous prices and no third party lens options. And that's the very expensive lesson that I learned.

That's really interesting that you say that. I think Canon's mirrorless are amongst the best, if not the best systems out there. Plus they have fairly decent compatibility with sigma/tamron. With the good ol' EF to RF adapters (third party decently priced options available), I've never faced a locked-in dilemma.

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psaturn7

Oct 18, 2025 4:26 PM

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psaturn7Oct 18, 2025 4:26 PM

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I have the Canon R8. Canon throttled the video aspect for this camera. I decided to switch to Lumix S5IIx.

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Riubens

Oct 18, 2025 7:39 PM

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RiubensOct 18, 2025 7:39 PM

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I also switched from canon to LUMIX s5ii and a S9. LUMIX is best bang for your money in my opinion.

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windriver

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Quote from SmilingChannel2488

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That's really interesting that you say that. I think Canon's mirrorless are amongst the best, if not the best systems out there. Plus they have fairly decent compatibility with sigma/tamron. With the good ol' EF to RF adapters (third party decently priced options available), I've never faced a locked-in dilemma.

I partially agree. I'm currently using the EF to RF adapter along with some old EF mount third party lenses (it isn't ideal, because it adds about an inch of length/bulk to every lens). But, if you want to use any of the amazing full frame mirrorless lenses that are being released by Sigma or Tamron, at very competitive prices, there's no adapter that can work with the third party full frame mirrorless lenses. So you're either stuck with the old EF mount lenses or paying a ridiculous premium for canons full frame lenses, since they have no competition. As others above mentioned, if I were to start brand new with an ecosystem, Lumix seems to be the most consumer friendly and accessible from a price standpoint while providing great features, and not gatekeeping some of the higher quality resolution videos, for their higher end cinema line cameras like Canon does.

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Quote from windriver

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I've been using Canon DSLRS and Mirrorless cameras for 25 years, and have too much gear too move on to a different platform. But if you are new to a mirrorless system and not yet locked in to any platform, definitely read up before you lock into the Canon ecosystem. You will get a lot more value for your money from other camera systems that are open to external lens manufacturers. You will get a lot more bang for your buck with the features offered in other every level cameras. Definitely look up Lumix as one option, and recent articles also mention that Nikon is aggressively pricing their feature packed cameras. Canon's strategy is to offer cheap entry level cameras to lock consumers in, and when they want to upgrade to a better camera or to a full frame mirrorless, they get you with ridiculous prices and no third party lens options. And that's the very expensive lesson that I learned.

Ok....so as someone who uses multiple systems, let me ask -- what lenses specifically are you not finding on Canon's ecosystem? I mean, the RF system isn't as open as the EF system became...but what value did we get from having four different 18-200mm less-than-mediocre superzooms? Seven different 50mm f/1.8 nifty fifties? A 17-35mm f/2.8 that's really poor quality from a third party...but hey, it was 20% cheaper.

Honestly, those sort of options diminish the brand....hard to identify what's actually good when there's so much noise.

Having the entire EF and EF-S and RF and RF-S library available, which lenses are you failing to find? And I didn't even mention the plethora of manual lenses that are compatible with mirrorless, like Canon's older FD mount (or any other mount which can be easily adapted).

I've found that Panasonic's and Nikon's body pricing is off the charts bonkers compared to what the R8 can give you for roughly $1000 for the body used. It isn't until you start getting in the $2k body range (upper mid-tier/low pro-tier) when the alternatives start getting compelling -- and it's usually for stuff like video.

You do realize that cheaper cameras are getting fewer and fewer in today's belt-tightening era, right? Lower prices, less profit per unit. So instead of having 3-5x cheap options, there's one or two...R100 and R50. Everything else is now mid-tier.

LavenderPickle7682

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LavenderPickle7682Oct 25, 2025 1:34 AM

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Quote from mrtramplefoot

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What is with the aperture on this lens? That is an impressively cheapo kit lens, especially for full frame...

It's pretty low, but that's the whole point of a kit lens...to be slightly better than a lens cap.

The low light sensitivity on the R8 is pretty radical -- you can push the ISO to 25,600 without significant loss. So even shooting at f/6.3, you can still get nice images....while not increasing the base price for a kit from the predecessors. (especially when everything is always increasing in cost as the dollar gets weaker).

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