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If you're motivated and tech-savvy, you can sometimes find the app file itself and sideload it, but there's no guarantee that it will run on your watch if the implementation of that app requires new functions that didn't exist in your watches CIQ version.
I'm in this boat right now with a Garmin Forerunner 955 that I downgraded to an old firmware version due to the newer firmware versions that they released being very buggy and inefficient with battery usage. The Forerunner 955 is basically a Garmin Fenix 7 without a flashlight and wrapped in a smaller, less-rugged shell.
I tend not to like to update my devices to the latest releases of firmware/software until they are fully vetted. Garmin is particularly bad with the quality of their firmware releases. Almost every new release of firmware seems to break something or make something that used to work well not work that well, and also degrade the battery efficiency. Firmware security is not a real issue with these watches (at least not yet), since we aren't using them to do things where our devices are a hacking target.
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If you're motivated and tech-savvy, you can sometimes find the app file itself and sideload it, but there's no guarantee that it will run on your watch if the implementation of that app requires new functions that didn't exist in your watches CIQ version.
I'm in this boat right now with a Garmin Forerunner 955 that I downgraded to an old firmware version due to the newer firmware versions that they released being very buggy and inefficient with battery usage. The Forerunner 955 is basically a Garmin Fenix 7 without a flashlight and wrapped in a smaller, less-rugged shell.
I tend not to like to update my devices to the latest releases of firmware/software until they are fully vetted. Garmin is particularly bad with the quality of their firmware releases. Almost every new release of firmware seems to break something or make something that used to work well not work that well, and also degrade the battery efficiency. Firmware security is not a real issue with these watches (at least not yet), since we aren't using them to do things where our devices are a hacking target.
The only advantage of Garmin is battery life and user friendly 'body battery' type metrics. They're all massive / no way I'm using them for sleep tracking.
If you're in the market for a Garmin, get this watch. At this point, though, I'm moving away from Garmin and looking at Apple's Ultra.
The only advantage of Garmin is battery life and user friendly 'body battery' type metrics. They're all massive / no way I'm using them for sleep tracking.
I will say this though.... I have been running at a high level since 1995 (competitively for about 9 years) and never gotten away from it for any significant time period. I take running very seriously, and I don't feel like there's any legitimately important running metric that my watch doesn't give me. Part of this might just be that I've been running long enough to not need too much external help from a device aside from pace, pulse, elevation profile and route tracking. Most of the other stuff like recovery metrics and advanced running metrics are just interesting stuff to see that i don't really vary my workout plan because of any of the advanced metrics.
The Garmin watch GPS is tremendously accurate(even if you're not using multi-constellation), and battery life is unbeatable (3 to 5 weeks if you just use it as a watch without bluetooth constantly on, and just have it tracking body metrics like pulse, steps and sleep.... or 1.5 to 2 weeks if you do about 45 to 50 minutes of GPS-recorded exercise activity per day). I have friends with Apple watches none of them can even get through a day just using their watch as a watch and not even tracking any GPS activities. I do actually kind of like the sleep tracking, but i don't alter my life in any way even in the slightest bit because of sleep metrics that it reports... it's just kind of a cool thing to see every now and then and can be interesting at times to look at if i'm feeling run down after a long week and am wondering why (just look at the app and see how much sleep i got each night and how much of it was quality).
I have never tried playing music from this watch because i am completely 100% against listening to music while running since i find it distracting and unsafe for environmental awareness reasons.
If you have any more specific questions about the watch and features or Garmin in general, feel free to ask on here or DM me (assuming this site even supports that).
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I will say this though.... I have been running at a high level since 1995 (competitively for about 9 years) and never gotten away from it for any significant time period. I take running very seriously, and I don't feel like there's any legitimately important running metric that my watch doesn't give me. Part of this might just be that I've been running long enough to not need too much external help from a device aside from pace, pulse, elevation profile and route tracking. Most of the other stuff like recovery metrics and advanced running metrics are just interesting stuff to see that i don't really vary my workout plan because of any of the advanced metrics.
The Garmin watch GPS is tremendously accurate(even if you're not using multi-constellation), and battery life is unbeatable (3 to 5 weeks if you just use it as a watch without bluetooth constantly on, and just have it tracking body metrics like pulse, steps and sleep.... or 1.5 to 2 weeks if you do about 45 to 50 minutes of GPS-recorded exercise activity per day). I have friends with Apple watches none of them can even get through a day just using their watch as a watch and not even tracking any GPS activities. I do actually kind of like the sleep tracking, but i don't alter my life in any way even in the slightest bit because of sleep metrics that it reports... it's just kind of a cool thing to see every now and then and can be interesting at times to look at if i'm feeling run down after a long week and am wondering why (just look at the app and see how much sleep i got each night and how much of it was quality).
I have never tried playing music from this watch because i am completely 100% against listening to music while running since i find it distracting and unsafe for environmental awareness reasons.
If you have any more specific questions about the watch and features or Garmin in general, feel free to ask on here or DM me (assuming this site even supports that).
I guess a better question is - as a runner, do you think the topographic tracking is a game changer on the 965/fenix/etc vs. the breadcrumb tracking on cheaper models like a 265S? And do you think Garmin is better/onpar with the Coros models like Pace/Pace Pro?
Thanks again, pretty rare to come across an experienced runner in these threads.
I guess a better question is - as a runner, do you think the topographic tracking is a game changer on the 965/fenix/etc vs. the breadcrumb tracking on cheaper models like a 265S? And do you think Garmin is better/onpar with the Coros models like Pace/Pace Pro?
Thanks again, pretty rare to come across an experienced runner in these threads.
The sleep tracking on Garmin watches only captures 4 states: Awake, Light Sleep, Deep Sleep, and REM. I don't really buy much into the actual score that it gives you from its sleep results, but it does generally seem to align with how I feel when i wake up for the most part. Most Garmin users will tell you that it's nearly impossible to get a sleep score anywhere near close to perfect. You used to have to program your user profile to have a general ballpark bedtime for it to accurately track your sleep without missing portions of the start of sleep, but they have fixed that recently when they added nap detection about a year ago to most of the firmware updates on their fitness watches. Realistically, no wrist-only watch is going to be super accurate with sleep stage detection since it can only measure so much with the sensors that they have built into them. You might want to put some consideration and comparative analysis effort into the size specs between the Apple Watch and the Garmin watch that you're considering, since Garmins tend to be larger in size in almost every direction and don't have the most streamlined edges, and you may find it disturbing at first to sleep with it on, particularly if you're a stomach sleeper who likes to put your arms under the pillow at night. The Forerunner 955 is a fairly large watch but still very manageable to wear and sleep with, much more so than the 51 mm Fenix series watches (I have a Fenix 3 which is 51MM and it's big, blocky and heavy).
The built-in maps is a real-world helpful feature on Garmin watches because you can use it if you are on vacation somewhere and get lost in a neighborhood and need to find your way home (I've had to use it a few times in confusing grid neighborhoods like in San Diego). This is actually the main reason I got my first GPS-watch about 13 or 14 years ago, since i got lost running in the woods just as nightfall was arriving and I barely made it back to an area i knew before complete darkness. Features like TrackBack/Back-to-start are helpful to get you out of a Jam. I'm actually not that comfortable with using some of the more advanced navigation features on my watch though because i rarely use them, but they did work OK the few times I've used them. I would suggest trying them out in areas you know well first before relying on them in areas you don't know since it can be frustrating to try to work through it for the first time when in the heat of battle and without a fallback plan.
I'm not a huge fan of Garmin's ecosystem as far as loading pre-planned routes and maps to the watch. I have done this a few times and it took what I felt like was way too much effort to get it in there, but I'm not sure if other manufacturers have implemented this in a more elegant way or not.
One annoying thing about Garmin watches (Maybe other watches also do this??) is that they round your real-time pace to the nearest 5-second increment. So if you're running at a 5:57 per mile pace, it will round it to either to 5:55 or 6:00. For this reason, i always have a second widget on my screen that shows average pace for the entire run since that goes to the granularity of the individual second rather than 5-second blocks, and I like to play mental games with those numbers to challenge myself to run faster and get my average pace for the whole run down to a specific number which is inevitably faster than I had intended when starting the run.
I did have an old GPS watch from a company called Globalsat back around 2014 that had tremendously accurate real-time pace, down to the individual second.... that was pretty cool. It's a nitpick though since the individual second degree of accuracy doesn't affect most of us that much unless you're doing pro level time trials. That was the only other watch I ever had that wasn't a Garmin, so I don't have anything useful to say about how it stacks up against Corros. DCRainmaker is an influencer who does lots of fitness gear reviews related to tech... i would probably check his stuff out if you haven't already.
If you're in the market for a Garmin, get this watch. At this point, though, I'm moving away from Garmin and looking at Apple's Ultra.
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If you're in the market for a Garmin, get this watch. At this point, though, I'm moving away from Garmin and looking at Apple's Ultra.
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