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The AVR X3800H stands out as a feature rich receiver for home theater, especially for anyone chasing Dirac and Dirac ART at a relatively low street price. The comments highlight strong value versus pricier Denon and Marantz models, with the X3800H seen as enough for many 5.2 or 3.1 setups and capable with 4 ohm speakers. The main knock is price, since this level has been available cheaper through refurb, open box, or past sales, and current pricing around $1350 feels high. It is a compelling option when calibration features matter more than extra channels or power.
Listeners building a 5.2 or smaller system who value room correction over extra amplifier power, because the Dirac features matter more than the unused channels.
Shoppers comparing midrange AVRs on sound quality, because the extra power and higher model tier were not heard as a meaningful upgrade in surround use.
The X4800H is described as offering little audible improvement over the X3800H for surround use, with the extra power supply mainly helping if you actually need more amplification. The X6800H adds better specs and more amplified channels, but the price jump is framed as roughly the cost of buying Dirac licenses for the X3800H.
Yes. The X3800H is repeatedly described as the cheapest route to Dirac ART, because ART was previously limited to far more expensive processors and the X3800H can access it at a roughly $1300 street price, with one comment citing $640 for all three Dirac licenses.
Several comments put the X3800H below this price: A4L had it at $1300 new and $1200 refurb, and Denon refurb plus a 10% code with cash back reportedly brought it to about $953 after tax. It has also been seen around $650 open-box at Best Buy/Magnolia, so $1350 is viewed as high unless you specifically need it now.
It can power a 3.1 or future 5.2 setup, but the extra channels and higher-end features may be overkill if you will never go beyond that. One comment specifically questions paying twice the price of an X1800H for a 3.1 system with 4-ohm L/R and center, while another says the X3800H handles 4-ohm speakers better than the Onkyo RZ50/RZ30.
It is reported to do better on 4-ohm speakers than the Onkyo RZ50 or RZ30, and it is considered capable of powering speakers like Q11 Meta/Q6 Meta in a modest setup. If you need more headroom or plan to push beyond that, external amplification may still be the safer choice.
You're probably better off waiting for the lower price to come back.
If you need something now, have no brand preference & don't need 11 channels.
The RZ30 for $750 is probably the better choice ime. https://slickdeals.net/f/18887872
Not a dealThis AVR needs to be sub $1000 IMOAnd its been lower than this many times in both public sites and side deals with local retailers( per AVS forum members)if I recall correctly..it was about $650 open box at the Best Buy/Magnolia clearance that was going on in selected stores a few months ago
WTF...Seriously!!!!
If we only had a Time Machine!!!
You would have to be a village idiot to pass that up!!!
WTF...Seriously!!!!
If we only had a Time Machine!!!
You would have to be a village idiot to pass that up!!!
I passed the X3800 up to buy the $950 Denon X4800 at the same time/store
The better resale alone would have more than equalized that when I got rid of it 2-4 years later
But I didnt keep the Denon X4800 either
For me the Pioneer LX805, that I owned at the time, was the better fit
Then I threw the Marantz Cinema 40 in that mix as well...which I didnt keep either
I think that was $1250-1300.
I cant recall exactly
I passed the X3800 up to buy the $950 Denon X4800 at the same time/storeThe better resale alone would have more than equalized that when I got rid of it 2-4 years laterBut I didnt keep the Denon X4800 eitherFor me the Pioneer LX805, that I owned at the time, was the better fitThen I threw the Marantz Cinema 40 in that mix as well...which I didnt keep eitherI think that was $1250-1300.I cant recall exactly
Huh better resale value!
Pretty well known the 4800 doesn't offer that much more than the 3800.
$650 and you have everything the 805 has and more!
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Huh better resale value!
Pretty well known the 4800 doesn't offer that much more than the 3800.
$650 and you have everything the 805 has and more!
Well...I assure you the made in Japan models always sell for more on the used resale market
Do your own checking for the history if you care to validate that
Been there done that many times...
Despite what you think or the " pretty well known" people you mention
The market will pay more on the used marketplace for the made in Japan Denon/Marantz models
$650 would have not gotten me anywhere close to the amp /power supply capability of the LX805
Then there are the Dirac license charges
This was never going to run my main listening area so the odds are I would not keep it that long, relatively speaking
I bought the x3800h at this price with this deal; found it before seeing this thread. I opened up an amazon visa which gave me $250 off and for some reason this model had 10% cashback. I bought some other speakers with it as well. Net price after all this was $990 + tax.
There's a return window of 60 days so if I find a lower price I will return this and buy at the lower price.
I'm not really sure if this model is even worth it for me because I'm using it to power two Q11 metas, a Q6 meta, and SB-3000. I'll likely never go beyond a 5.2 setup.
Not to mention these are 4ohm speakers..
Well...I assure you the made in Japan models always sell for more on the used resale marketDo your own checking for the history if you care to validate thatBeen there done that many times...Despite what you think or the " pretty well known" people you mentionThe market will pay more on the used marketplace for the made in Japan Denon/Marantz models$650 would have not gotten me anywhere close to the amp /power supply capability of the LX805Then there are the Dirac license chargesThis was never going to run my main listening area so the odds are I would not keep it that long, relatively speaking
Well what I think is I compared the 3800 vs 4800 within my main listening area and there wasn't a $300 sounding difference.
What did you hear when you did the same?
I would argue that extra power supply is only a benefit if you need it.
If your surrounds and or Atmos speakers don't need 150 watts why pay for it.
I would rather spend it on head & shoulders Dirac licenses than power I don't need.
Then there is the 805 doesn't have access to the best Dirac license they have.... ART .... the 3800 does!!!
Let's not forget A1EVO, gives you pretty much all of Dirac Live & Dirac Live Bass Control for free!!!!
That's not just my opinion, pretty much well known over on AVS.
I'm pretty sure you can go over there and validate that very fact.
Well what I think is I compared the 3800 vs 4800 within my main listening area and there wasn't a $300 sounding difference.
What did you hear when you did the same?
I would argue that extra power supply is only a benefit if you need it.
If your surrounds and or Atmos speakers don't need 150 watts why pay for it.
I would rather spend it on head & shoulders Dirac licenses than power I don't need.
Then there is the 805 doesn't have access to the best Dirac license they have.... ART .... the 3800 does!!!
Let's not forget A1EVO, gives you pretty much all of Dirac Live & Dirac Live Bass Control for free!!!!
That's not just my opinion, pretty much well known over on AVS.
I'm pretty sure you can go over there and validate that very fact.
I have never owned the X3800...so I cant comment on the difference
I like the looks of it better than the X3800
if I kept it for a few years I know it was not going to be any higher cost of ownership due to the resale advantage of the X4800...So I chose it over the X3800 that was available at the same time
I understand your opinion about A1EVO
That opinion is not the same with many people on AVS...certainly you know that if you have read through enough of the calibration threads
I cant speak to DIRAC ART and what difference I think it makes...as I dont have it in my home
What I will say is that my Arcam AVR31 is a sonically superior unit to my Marantz Cinema 30...same speakers ..same media..same room and level matched
There are AVS forum guys that say that Denon/Marantz has stepped up their game on their higher end models versus the boutique brands in this last generation
Their pricing has gone up considerably since the days of my Marantz pre/pro ownership
But for me to switch out my main listening pre.pro I would need something at least the sonic equal , to my ears, of the Arcam AV41
The price for the Marantz AV10 ...with all the licenses I would need to buy....doesnt make sense to me . This is assuming a 20% off MSRP which I think is realistic
This is also assuming I would like it as well as the Arcam, in the first place, and that Dirac ART would make a big difference to my ears
I bought the x3800h at this price with this deal; found it before seeing this thread. I opened up an amazon visa which gave me $250 off and for some reason this model had 10% cashback. I bought some other speakers with it as well. Net price after all this was $990 + tax. There's a return window of 60 days so if I find a lower price I will return this and buy at the lower price.I'm not really sure if this model is even worth it for me because I'm using it to power two Q11 metas, a Q6 meta, and SB-3000. I'll likely never go beyond a 5.2 setup. Not to mention these are 4ohm speakers..
It depends on what features drew you to the 3800.
Will it power the 3(not 5?) metas, yes.
Will in do it to your satisfaction, no one can answer that.
If you have no brand preference & Dirac was a high priority.
I would suggest the Onkyo RZ30.
It's on sale for $750 right now.
Less likely to needing an external amp and less expensive.
I bought the x3800h at this price with this deal; found it before seeing this thread. I opened up an amazon visa which gave me $250 off and for some reason this model had 10% cashback. I bought some other speakers with it as well. Net price after all this was $990 + tax.
There's a return window of 60 days so if I find a lower price I will return this and buy at the lower price.
I'm not really sure if this model is even worth it for me because I'm using it to power two Q11 metas, a Q6 meta, and SB-3000. I'll likely never go beyond a 5.2 setup.
Not to mention these are 4ohm speakers..
The 3800 will do a better job on 4 ohm speakers than the RZ50 or the RZ30 (ASR review for the RZ30 still pending for the "limp mode" that was found on the RZ50 and brethren).
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I have never owned the X3800...so I cant comment on the differenceI like the looks of it better than the X3800if I kept it for a few years I know it was not going to be any higher cost of ownership due to the resale advantage of the X4800...So I chose it over the X3800 that was available at the same timeI understand your opinion about A1EVOThat opinion is not the same with many people on AVS...certainly you know that if you have read through enough of the calibration threadsI cant speak to DIRAC ART and what difference I think it makes...as I dont have it in my homeWhat I will say is that my Arcam AVR31 is a sonically superior unit to my Marantz Cinema 30...same speakers ..same media..same room and level matchedThere are AVS forum guys that say that Denon/Marantz has stepped up their game on their higher end models versus the boutique brands in this last generationTheir pricing has gone up considerably since the days of my Marantz pre/pro ownershipBut for me to switch out my main listening pre.pro I would need something at least the sonic equal , to my ears, of the Arcam AV41The price for the Marantz AV10 ...with all the licenses I would need to buy....doesnt make sense to me . This is assuming a 20% off MSRP which I think is realisticThis is also assuming I would like it as well as the Arcam, in the first place, and that Dirac ART would make a big difference to my ears
So you paid $300 more for looks & say it was built in Japan, that's not a sonic benefit imo.
Putting that $300 to getting Dirac Live(equivalent to what the 805 includes) would be more beneficial imo.
Heck $640(right now) gets you all 3 which includes ART.
That's $650+$640=$1,290!!!
I can tell you from personal experience that will easily compete(if not surpass) with even your Arcam sonically & costing much less to boot!!!
I read about plenty of Arcam owners not to happy they have no access to ART!
Yes I have read forums on A1EVO.
Not much different than in here.
Most naysayers imagine the performance based on reading.
What was your opinion on A1EVO again?
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The AVR X3800H stands out as a feature rich receiver for home theater, especially for anyone chasing Dirac and Dirac ART at a relatively low street price. The comments highlight strong value versus pricier Denon and Marantz models, with the X3800H seen as enough for many 5.2 or 3.1 setups and capable with 4 ohm speakers. The main knock is price, since this level has been available cheaper through refurb, open box, or past sales, and current pricing around $1350 feels high. It is a compelling option when calibration features matter more than extra channels or power.
Dirac ART availability at an AVR-X3800H street price around $1300 can make the calibration feature more accessible.
The AVR-X3800H can be a practical choice for users staying near a 5.2 channel layout.
A Denon refurbished purchase path can stack a 10% off code with Capital One Shopping cash back to reach about a $953 net price after tax.
The AVR-X3800H can handle 4-ohm speaker loads effectively for surround setups.
PayPal 20% off may be harder to use because the PayPal deal option is tied to Amazon while Denon pricing is listed elsewhere.
The AVR-X3800H may not feel like a worthwhile upgrade if a buyer expects a large sonic difference versus higher-end models for surround use.
ART value may depend on having an optimal setup, so the feature may not justify the cost for every listening environment.
The $1350 price can be viewed as not competitive because the AVR has reportedly gone lower, including around $650 open-box at Best Buy/Magnolia.
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If you need something now, have no brand preference & don't need 11 channels.
The RZ30 for $750 is probably the better choice ime.
https://slickdeals.net/f/18887872
This AVR needs to be sub $1000 IMO
And its been lower than this many times in both public sites and side deals with local retailers( per AVS forum members)
if I recall correctly..it was about $650 open box at the Best Buy/Magnolia clearance that was going on in selected stores a few months ago
If we only had a Time Machine!!!
You would have to be a village idiot to pass that up!!!
If we only had a Time Machine!!!
You would have to be a village idiot to pass that up!!!
The better resale alone would have more than equalized that when I got rid of it 2-4 years later
But I didnt keep the Denon X4800 either
For me the Pioneer LX805, that I owned at the time, was the better fit
Then I threw the Marantz Cinema 40 in that mix as well...which I didnt keep either
I think that was $1250-1300.
I cant recall exactly
Pretty well known the 4800 doesn't offer that much more than the 3800.
$650 and you have everything the 805 has and more!
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Pretty well known the 4800 doesn't offer that much more than the 3800.
$650 and you have everything the 805 has and more!
Do your own checking for the history if you care to validate that
Been there done that many times...
Despite what you think or the " pretty well known" people you mention
The market will pay more on the used marketplace for the made in Japan Denon/Marantz models
$650 would have not gotten me anywhere close to the amp /power supply capability of the LX805
Then there are the Dirac license charges
This was never going to run my main listening area so the odds are I would not keep it that long, relatively speaking
There's a return window of 60 days so if I find a lower price I will return this and buy at the lower price.
I'm not really sure if this model is even worth it for me because I'm using it to power two Q11 metas, a Q6 meta, and SB-3000. I'll likely never go beyond a 5.2 setup.
Not to mention these are 4ohm speakers..
What did you hear when you did the same?
I would argue that extra power supply is only a benefit if you need it.
If your surrounds and or Atmos speakers don't need 150 watts why pay for it.
I would rather spend it on head & shoulders Dirac licenses than power I don't need.
Then there is the 805 doesn't have access to the best Dirac license they have.... ART .... the 3800 does!!!
Let's not forget A1EVO, gives you pretty much all of Dirac Live & Dirac Live Bass Control for free!!!!
That's not just my opinion, pretty much well known over on AVS.
I'm pretty sure you can go over there and validate that very fact.
What did you hear when you did the same?
I would argue that extra power supply is only a benefit if you need it.
If your surrounds and or Atmos speakers don't need 150 watts why pay for it.
I would rather spend it on head & shoulders Dirac licenses than power I don't need.
Then there is the 805 doesn't have access to the best Dirac license they have.... ART .... the 3800 does!!!
Let's not forget A1EVO, gives you pretty much all of Dirac Live & Dirac Live Bass Control for free!!!!
That's not just my opinion, pretty much well known over on AVS.
I'm pretty sure you can go over there and validate that very fact.
I like the looks of it better than the X3800
if I kept it for a few years I know it was not going to be any higher cost of ownership due to the resale advantage of the X4800...So I chose it over the X3800 that was available at the same time
I understand your opinion about A1EVO
That opinion is not the same with many people on AVS...certainly you know that if you have read through enough of the calibration threads
I cant speak to DIRAC ART and what difference I think it makes...as I dont have it in my home
What I will say is that my Arcam AVR31 is a sonically superior unit to my Marantz Cinema 30...same speakers ..same media..same room and level matched
There are AVS forum guys that say that Denon/Marantz has stepped up their game on their higher end models versus the boutique brands in this last generation
Their pricing has gone up considerably since the days of my Marantz pre/pro ownership
But for me to switch out my main listening pre.pro I would need something at least the sonic equal , to my ears, of the Arcam AV41
The price for the Marantz AV10 ...with all the licenses I would need to buy....doesnt make sense to me . This is assuming a 20% off MSRP which I think is realistic
This is also assuming I would like it as well as the Arcam, in the first place, and that Dirac ART would make a big difference to my ears
Will it power the 3(not 5?) metas, yes.
Will in do it to your satisfaction, no one can answer that.
If you have no brand preference & Dirac was a high priority.
I would suggest the Onkyo RZ30.
It's on sale for $750 right now.
Less likely to needing an external amp and less expensive.
There's a return window of 60 days so if I find a lower price I will return this and buy at the lower price.
I'm not really sure if this model is even worth it for me because I'm using it to power two Q11 metas, a Q6 meta, and SB-3000. I'll likely never go beyond a 5.2 setup.
Not to mention these are 4ohm speakers..
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Putting that $300 to getting Dirac Live(equivalent to what the 805 includes) would be more beneficial imo.
Heck $640(right now) gets you all 3 which includes ART.
That's $650+$640=$1,290!!!
I can tell you from personal experience that will easily compete(if not surpass) with even your Arcam sonically & costing much less to boot!!!
I read about plenty of Arcam owners not to happy they have no access to ART!
Yes I have read forums on A1EVO.
Not much different than in here.
Most naysayers imagine the performance based on reading.
What was your opinion on A1EVO again?
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