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Does it use a standard PSU? One PSU swap and this would be a killer 1080p gaming PC
Few if any prebuilts use standard atx power supplies. You might be able to find an adapter on ebay, but then there's the matter of mounting it.
This would be a sweeter deal if it came with 32gb.
the i7 is faster as a CPU but wouldn't the 8700G's on-chip GPU be much much better than the i7's on-chip GPU for gaming?
granted any on-chip GPU is going to be limited to less demanding games/resolutions. but some people do just want to play fortnite or overwatch (or league or minecraft etc) at 1080p
not sure if trustworthy but this video (the last 1/3 is the games) shows framerates in some games for the 8700G vs the i7-14700K which I believe has the same on-chip GPU as the i7-14700, and frame rates on the 8700G are much much higher...
EG Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3, 1080p resolution, low detail settings, the 8700G average framerate is 72 frames per second, and the i7-14700K is only 14 frames per second.
demanding gamers will surely still be needing a PC with a separate graphics card GPU but for less demanding gamers, the 8700G's on-chip GPU is pretty impressive.
I believe Intel's recently announced next CPU generation (codename Panther Lake) will be a big step forward in their on-chip GPU capability. Will be interested to see if they can dethrone AMD in the on-chip GPU arena.
Last edited by CleoThyme January 12, 2026 at 11:49 AM.
the i7 is faster as a CPU but wouldn't the 8700G's on-chip GPU be much better than the i7's on-chip GPU for gaming?
granted any on-chip GPU is going to be limited to less demanding games/resolutions. but some people do just want to play fortnite or overwatch (or league or minecraft etc) at 1080p
I would not try to game with either. These days with the current games a discrete GPU is pretty much a given. For things like photo/video editing or Autocad/design either will likely do the job without breaking a sweat. I haven't done the research but my gut feeling is that the Ryzen will likely have slightly better onboard graphics. But that extra 16GB of DDR5 is quite pricey these days if bought separately.
Edit: To reply to your edit, yeah I'm not surprised that the 8700G has better onboard graphics. Intel has fallen behind in that regard. Again though, this one and the one I linked were never intended as gaming platforms. In pure performance outside of graphics the 14700 is still quite a beast.
Last edited by BabyBubba January 12, 2026 at 11:36 AM.
I would not try to game with either. These days with the current games a discrete GPU is pretty much a given. For things like photo/video editing or Autocad/design either will likely do the job without breaking a sweat. I haven't done the research but my gut feeling is that the Ryzen will likely have slightly better onboard graphics. But that extra 16GB of DDR5 is quite pricey these days if bought separately.
Edit: To reply to your edit, yeah I'm not surprised that the 8700G has better onboard graphics. Intel has fallen behind in that regard. Again though, this one and the one I linked were never intended as gaming platforms. In pure performance outside of graphics the 14700 is still quite a beast.
Agreed, Intel 14th gen platforms have a lot of CPU bang for the buck these days.
The 8700G's value is really only solid for people who fit the niche of wanting some gaming capability, but aren't needing discrete-GPU-level performance. Sorta always been the case with AMD "APUs". They're impressive for what the are and AMD would have us believe the market is a pretty big "niche" but I'm not so sure.
I just think it's worth noting that using an Intel CPU with their very basic "Intel UHD" on-chip GPU essentially takes even basic gaming off-the-table.
With some basic skills and a time committment, one could surely put together a system with a used GPU for $600 that would substantially outperform the 8700G in gaming but that is not for everybody.
Last edited by CleoThyme January 12, 2026 at 12:34 PM.
Does it use a standard PSU? One PSU swap and this would be a killer 1080p gaming PC
I agree with some others on their comments on the lack of this using a standard ATX PSU.
You can follow the link and look at the image of the back of this unit. The screw pattern and the exhaust fan of the included psu is 99% likely a proprietary PSU.
If this is bought with the intention of replacing the PSU, it would take a SFX PSU. Standard ATX won't fit.
Few if any prebuilts use standard atx power supplies. You might be able to find an adapter on ebay, but then there's the matter of mounting it.
This would be a sweeter deal if it came with 32gb.
I agree with some others on their comments on the lack of this using a standard ATX PSU.
You can follow the link and look at the image of the back of this unit. The screw pattern and the exhaust fan of the included psu is 99% likely a proprietary PSU.
If this is bought with the intention of replacing the PSU, it would take a SFX PSU. Standard ATX won't fit.
It's not even necessarily the PSU's form factor itself. It's the connector for the motherboard that's not standard on top of that.
I got a couple of the "refurb" HPs about 3-4 years ago. For the price I paid they were fine. (I think I paid like $200 for each one and they both had 12gb ram and 5600g CPUs?)
the psu's were proprietary AND the connectors were weird. I ended up putting my old 3070 in one of them but I had to hijack the sata power supply cables to do it. (I was lucky that one had a 400w gold psu in it, barely enough for a 3070). It might not have been ideal but it did work. But if you ever wanted to swap out motherboards, I don't think you could easily do it.
I would not try to game with either. These days with the current games a discrete GPU is pretty much a given. For things like photo/video editing or Autocad/design either will likely do the job without breaking a sweat. I haven't done the research but my gut feeling is that the Ryzen will likely have slightly better onboard graphics. But that extra 16GB of DDR5 is quite pricey these days if bought separately.
Edit: To reply to your edit, yeah I'm not surprised that the 8700G has better onboard graphics. Intel has fallen behind in that regard. Again though, this one and the one I linked were never intended as gaming platforms. In pure performance outside of graphics the 14700 is still quite a beast.
The 780M GPU equivalent here is not bad at all. It's not going to play most modern demanding games at Ultra 1080/60 but it will do okay for the majority of games most people play nowadays (think Terraria, Minecraft, Stardew, etc.) I have a mini-pc that has the 6000 version (680M) and I take it everywhere. It'll play almost anything I throw at it well, which is pretty much everything within the last 5-10 years. The 680M is slightly better than a Steam Deck and considering how a good chunk of newer games are deck-optimized, you can get a long way with this CPU/GPU combo. No, it's not a workhorse and $600 may or may not be worth it but considering the OLED Steam Deck is $549, you can do a lot worse than this for an intro gaming setup.
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This would be a sweeter deal if it came with 32gb.
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30% better performing CPU, but only 256GB SSD. Still a hot deal on a high performance productivity setup with 32GB DDR5.
https://www.cpubenchmar
granted any on-chip GPU is going to be limited to less demanding games/resolutions. but some people do just want to play fortnite or overwatch (or league or minecraft etc) at 1080p
not sure if trustworthy but this video (the last 1/3 is the games) shows framerates in some games for the 8700G vs the i7-14700K which I believe has the same on-chip GPU as the i7-14700, and frame rates on the 8700G are much much higher...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B2Zbfe
EG Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3, 1080p resolution, low detail settings, the 8700G average framerate is 72 frames per second, and the i7-14700K is only 14 frames per second.
demanding gamers will surely still be needing a PC with a separate graphics card GPU but for less demanding gamers, the 8700G's on-chip GPU is pretty impressive.
I believe Intel's recently announced next CPU generation (codename Panther Lake) will be a big step forward in their on-chip GPU capability. Will be interested to see if they can dethrone AMD in the on-chip GPU arena.
granted any on-chip GPU is going to be limited to less demanding games/resolutions. but some people do just want to play fortnite or overwatch (or league or minecraft etc) at 1080p
Edit: To reply to your edit, yeah I'm not surprised that the 8700G has better onboard graphics. Intel has fallen behind in that regard. Again though, this one and the one I linked were never intended as gaming platforms. In pure performance outside of graphics the 14700 is still quite a beast.
You will struggle to fit anything other than a single fan GPU in these things.
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Edit: To reply to your edit, yeah I'm not surprised that the 8700G has better onboard graphics. Intel has fallen behind in that regard. Again though, this one and the one I linked were never intended as gaming platforms. In pure performance outside of graphics the 14700 is still quite a beast.
The 8700G's value is really only solid for people who fit the niche of wanting some gaming capability, but aren't needing discrete-GPU-level performance. Sorta always been the case with AMD "APUs". They're impressive for what the are and AMD would have us believe the market is a pretty big "niche" but I'm not so sure.
I just think it's worth noting that using an Intel CPU with their very basic "Intel UHD" on-chip GPU essentially takes even basic gaming off-the-table.
With some basic skills and a time committment, one could surely put together a system with a used GPU for $600 that would substantially outperform the 8700G in gaming but that is not for everybody.
You can follow the link and look at the image of the back of this unit. The screw pattern and the exhaust fan of the included psu is 99% likely a proprietary PSU.
If this is bought with the intention of replacing the PSU, it would take a SFX PSU. Standard ATX won't fit.
This would be a sweeter deal if it came with 32gb.
You will struggle to fit anything other than a single fan GPU in these things.
You can follow the link and look at the image of the back of this unit. The screw pattern and the exhaust fan of the included psu is 99% likely a proprietary PSU.
If this is bought with the intention of replacing the PSU, it would take a SFX PSU. Standard ATX won't fit.
I got a couple of the "refurb" HPs about 3-4 years ago. For the price I paid they were fine. (I think I paid like $200 for each one and they both had 12gb ram and 5600g CPUs?)
the psu's were proprietary AND the connectors were weird. I ended up putting my old 3070 in one of them but I had to hijack the sata power supply cables to do it. (I was lucky that one had a 400w gold psu in it, barely enough for a 3070). It might not have been ideal but it did work. But if you ever wanted to swap out motherboards, I don't think you could easily do it.
Edit: To reply to your edit, yeah I'm not surprised that the 8700G has better onboard graphics. Intel has fallen behind in that regard. Again though, this one and the one I linked were never intended as gaming platforms. In pure performance outside of graphics the 14700 is still quite a beast.
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