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AMD rolled this decision back after the public backlash but we don't know to what degree they will be providing day-1 optimizations.
Also, for anyone saying this is the first time they have done this, it isn't. They discontinued Vega support within a year of them shipping chips with Vega graphics.
I think it would be a mistake to count on long-term driver support from AMD based on recent history.
Was thinking the same thing. Even at $600 I'd rather take the 16GB of VRAM
Problem with AMD has always been drivers. Especially for Total war games which I play the most. In that case 4gb of vram won't make up for nvidias drive support. Especially when you can't even load a game after a patch because AMD didn't have the man power to update their drivers.
When AMD figures out how to get that part right then I'd be all for it.
AMD rolled this decision back after the public backlash but we don't know to what degree they will be providing day-1 optimizations.
Also, for anyone saying this is the first time they have done this, it isn't. They discontinued Vega support within a year of them shipping chips with Vega graphics.
I think it would be a mistake to count on long-term driver support from AMD based on recent history.
That's the problem. They say they will provide and it goes untouched for months. Was so bad you couldn't even play some games at all.
It's not *really* on sale, $10 off MSRP. You can get the NVIDIA flagship version for $550. This one's got better cooling though the FE looks cooler.
True. My question was more about why cards are at or below MSRP. I heard last month that everything was going to go up in price by a lot by the start of the new year because of AI and RAM shortages.
True. My question was more about why cards are at or below MSRP. I heard last month that everything was going to go up in price by a lot by the start of the new year because of AI and RAM shortages.
The expectation is that price increases are coming but they haven't hit yet. It takes time for increased cost to move through the pipeline. At this point, the rumors are that the price increases will hit in Feb or March. However, in practice, we are already seeing increased prices on most 16GB cards. But this appears to be just supply and demand. People are panic buying(perhaps wisely) 16GB+ cards before they get more expensive. 5090s have basically disappeared.
What is super unclear is what is going to happen on the lower end of the market. It is likely that the 9060 XT 16GB and 5060 Ti 16GB will either be outright discontinued or just made in such small quantities that nobody can actually buy them for a reasonable price. This is just my speculation but I am wondering if they keep making the 5050. Increased RAM cost could make that product completely non-viable given it's price. I doubt very much that nvidia is going to lower the cost to the AIBs. To be honest, I am not certain that the 5060, 5060 Ti 8GB and 9060 XT 8GB will actually see price increases. Those cards weren't selling well at MSRP before. I wouldn't be surprised if they just went back to selling at or slightly over MSRP as opposed to getting actual price increases. We will see I guess.
The 5070 is perhaps the most interesting because it sits in the middle between the 8GB entry level cards and the 16GB cards. I think its fate will be, at least partially, tied to the 9070. I don't think the 5070 can be at the same price point as the 9070. The 5070 will represent too poor a value in comparison.
It is also rumored that they are increasing manufacturing for the RTX 3060. If true, I suspect those cards will mostly be destined for the OEM market and not retail consumers.
Right now is the time to buy a GPU if ur looking to buy one Nvidia might stop producing the 5060 TI 16G and 5070 TI and increase price by 20% and the main GPU Nvidia will be pushing is the 5060 8G/5060TI 8G
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Right now is the time to buy a GPU if ur looking to buy one Nvidia might stop producing the 5060 TI 16G and 5070 TI and increase price by 20% and the main GPU Nvidia will be pushing is the 5060 8G/5060TI 8G
This all seems like a reason to never buy Nvidia again.
This all seems like a reason to never buy Nvidia again.
I haven't heard any rumors about the 5070 Ti being discontinued but with the increased RAM prices, the 5060 Ti 16GB card is completely not a viable product. The rumors are that AMD is considering the same thing with the 9060 XT 16GB.
I suspect that neither company will actually discontinue them. I suspect they will just stop requiring the AIBs to purchase them and let them silently disappear.
I haven't heard any rumors about the 5070 Ti being discontinued but with the increased RAM prices, the 5060 Ti 16GB card is completely not a viable product. The rumors are that AMD is considering the same thing with the 9060 XT 16GB.I suspect that neither company will actually discontinue them. I suspect they will just stop requiring the AIBs to purchase them and let them silently disappear.
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This 5070 deal ain't bad at all, especially considering it's Amazon and brand new.
12 GB is fine. 16 will be better 5 years from now but this should do the job till then.
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Also, for anyone saying this is the first time they have done this, it isn't. They discontinued Vega support within a year of them shipping chips with Vega graphics.
I think it would be a mistake to count on long-term driver support from AMD based on recent history.
When AMD figures out how to get that part right then I'd be all for it.
Also, for anyone saying this is the first time they have done this, it isn't. They discontinued Vega support within a year of them shipping chips with Vega graphics.
I think it would be a mistake to count on long-term driver support from AMD based on recent history.
What is super unclear is what is going to happen on the lower end of the market. It is likely that the 9060 XT 16GB and 5060 Ti 16GB will either be outright discontinued or just made in such small quantities that nobody can actually buy them for a reasonable price. This is just my speculation but I am wondering if they keep making the 5050. Increased RAM cost could make that product completely non-viable given it's price. I doubt very much that nvidia is going to lower the cost to the AIBs. To be honest, I am not certain that the 5060, 5060 Ti 8GB and 9060 XT 8GB will actually see price increases. Those cards weren't selling well at MSRP before. I wouldn't be surprised if they just went back to selling at or slightly over MSRP as opposed to getting actual price increases. We will see I guess.
The 5070 is perhaps the most interesting because it sits in the middle between the 8GB entry level cards and the 16GB cards. I think its fate will be, at least partially, tied to the 9070. I don't think the 5070 can be at the same price point as the 9070. The 5070 will represent too poor a value in comparison.
It is also rumored that they are increasing manufacturing for the RTX 3060. If true, I suspect those cards will mostly be destined for the OEM market and not retail consumers.
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I suspect that neither company will actually discontinue them. I suspect they will just stop requiring the AIBs to purchase them and let them silently disappear.
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