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JBL Studio 625C for $219 -- 2-Way Loudspeaker with Compression Driver tweeter & Dual 5.25” woofers

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If you absolutely cannot fit its larger brother the 665C as your center speaker, this will do in a pinch, and at half the cost.

If you can fit the 665C as your center but can't do the JBL 680, 690, or 698 towers for L/R, this 625C can be turned vertically and used as L/R mains---the extra woofer provides indisputable "no replacement for displacement" benefits over its single woofer bookshelf brothers the 620 and 630, and is a no-brainer at this clearance price.

Pretty much ANY 2/2.5-way MTM center speaker can be turned vertical and used as mains. Most speaker companies will never tell you that because they'd rather make more per-unit profit selling you pricier towers and bookshelf speakers, which is why these MTM speakers are almost always * marketed * as "center speakers" --- some notable exceptions are the Ascend 340SE2 and KEF Q6 Meta.

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If you absolutely cannot fit its larger brother the 665C as your center speaker, this will do in a pinch, and at half the cost.

If you can fit the 665C as your center but can't do the JBL 680, 690, or 698 towers for L/R, this 625C can be turned vertically and used as L/R mains---the extra woofer provides indisputable "no replacement for displacement" benefits over its single woofer bookshelf brothers the 620 and 630, and is a no-brainer at this clearance price.

Pretty much ANY 2/2.5-way MTM center speaker can be turned vertical and used as mains. Most speaker companies will never tell you that because they'd rather make more per-unit profit selling you pricier towers and bookshelf speakers, which is why these MTM speakers are almost always * marketed * as "center speakers" --- some notable exceptions are the Ascend 340SE2 and KEF Q6 Meta.

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Mar 15, 2026 5:09 PM
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wtfbrowtfMar 15, 2026 5:09 PM
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i always wondered why I cant just turn these sideways and use as main speaker lol
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yasirfaheemMar 15, 2026 5:23 PM
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Quote from wtfbrowtf View quoted comment :
i always wondered why I cant just turn these sideways and use as main speaker lol
You are not alone I've wondered the same thing
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Quote from wtfbrowtf View quoted comment :
i always wondered why I cant just turn these sideways and use as main speaker lol
It costs nothing to try it with the center speaker you already have.

If anything, turning an MTM vertical should actually IMPROVE the sound because it virtually eliminates the "lobing effects" Center speaker lobing refers to direction-dependent peaks and nulls in the frequency response caused by interference between multiple drivers reproducing the same frequencies. It is most commonly discussed with horizontal MTM center speakers (midwoofer–tweeter–midwoofer).

AI details:


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1. The mechanism (why lobing happens)

In many center speakers the layout is:

woofer – tweeter – woofer (horizontal)

Both woofers reproduce the midrange up to the crossover point with the tweeter. Because the woofers are physically separated, their sound arrives at slightly different times depending on listening angle.

At some angles:

The waves add constructively → response peak

The waves cancel → response dip (null)


This produces a lobing pattern in the horizontal plane.

Technically this is a form of comb filtering caused by driver spacing relative to wavelength.

Example:

crossover ≈ 2 kHz

wavelength ≈ 6.8 inches

woofer spacing often ≈ 10–14 inches


That spacing is large enough that off-axis cancellation occurs within the speech band (1–4 kHz).


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2. What it looks like in measurements

Measurements of many horizontal MTM centers show:

On-axis response: reasonably flat

15–30° off axis: dips in the 1–3 kHz region

>40° off axis: large cancellations


This is why you often see polar plots with multiple horizontal lobes and nulls.


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3. How audible it actually is in real home theater use

For the center seat

Usually not very audible.

If you're near the acoustic axis:

the lobing nulls occur off-axis

dialogue clarity is typically fine


This is why many people never notice it.


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For off-axis seats

It can become very audible.

Typical symptoms:

dialogue sounds thin or hollow

consonants lose clarity

voices sound phasey

intelligibility drops


This occurs because the 1–4 kHz speech intelligibility band is exactly where the cancellations often occur.


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Room reflections make it worse

Even if you sit on axis, side wall reflections arrive off-axis.

Those reflections contain the lobing dips, which can slightly reduce clarity or change timbre.


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4. How big the problem is (in practice)

In a typical living room:

Seating position Audible effect

Dead center Usually minimal
±15° Slight timbre change
±25–30° Noticeable dialogue degradation
Wide couch seating Often obvious


This is why some reviewers say horizontal MTM centers have "narrow dialogue sweet spots."


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5. Designs that avoid lobing

Several approaches reduce or eliminate it.

1. 3-way center speakers

Example layout:

woofer – mid – tweeter – mid – woofer

The midrange is vertically aligned with the tweeter, so the interference problem disappears.

Examples:

JBL Studio 625C Center Channel Speaker

ELAC Uni‑Fi UC52 Center Speaker


These maintain wide horizontal dispersion.


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2. Coaxial drivers

Tweeter is mounted inside the midrange.

Examples:

KEF R2c Center Channel Speaker

KEF Q650c Center Speaker


This produces very uniform dispersion.


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3. Vertical speaker used as center

The best solution acoustically is simply using the same vertical speaker as L/R, but it's often impractical under a TV.


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6. Why horizontal MTM centers still exist

Three reasons:

1. Furniture constraints (fit under TVs)


2. Marketing aesthetics


3. Cost (true 3-way centers cost more)



Even though the acoustic compromise has been known since the 1970s.


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7. Real-world severity

In the home theater community (including forums like AVS Forum), the consensus is roughly:

Single seat users: rarely a major issue

Wide seating rows: can be a significant limitation

High-performance systems: enthusiasts prefer 3-way or coaxial centers



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✅ Bottom line

Lobing is a real acoustic artifact caused by woofer spacing in horizontal MTM centers.

It mainly affects off-axis listeners.

For a single prime seat it's often minor; for multiple seats it can noticeably reduce dialogue clarity.



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If you want, I can also show you why the problem gets dramatically worse above ~1.5 kHz with a quick wavelength vs driver spacing explanation (it's surprisingly simple physics).
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Rotating an MTM speaker vertically moves the interference pattern into the vertical plane, which is much less problematic in typical listening conditions.

However, it's important to understand what actually changes.


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1. What happens when an MTM is horizontal

Typical center speaker layout:

woofer – tweeter – woofer

When placed horizontally:

the two woofers are separated left–right

interference occurs across the seating area


Result:

horizontal lobing

off-axis listeners experience cancellations in the 1–3 kHz speech band


That's why dialogue clarity drops for seats away from center.


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2. What happens when the same speaker is vertical

Rotate the same MTM 90°:

woofer
tweeter
woofer

Now:

driver spacing is up–down

interference moves to the vertical plane


Result:

horizontal dispersion becomes smooth

people sitting left/right hear a consistent response


This is why vertical speakers work much better for multi-seat listening.


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3. Why vertical lobing is less audible

Vertical cancellation occurs between:

ear height

floor reflections

ceiling reflections


But listeners usually remain within a small vertical angle range (±5–10°).

By contrast, horizontal seating angles often reach ±30° or more.

So the problematic nulls are rarely encountered.


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4. This is why L/R speakers are almost always vertical

Nearly all conventional speakers (bookshelf or tower) are MTM-like in radiation behavior:

midrange drivers near a tweeter

crossover around 1.5–3 kHz


Placed vertically, they produce:

wide horizontal dispersion

controlled vertical dispersion


This is the desired radiation pattern for stereo and home theater.


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5. Important nuance

Vertical MTM still has vertical lobing, which can matter if:

the speaker is far above or below ear level

listeners sit on different floor heights

the crossover frequency is unusually high


But in typical rooms the effect is minor compared with horizontal lobing.


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✅ Bottom line

Rotating an MTM vertically does not eliminate lobing.

It moves it into the vertical plane, where it is far less audible.

This is why many enthusiasts prefer three identical vertical speakers across the front instead of a horizontal center.
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wysiwyg1652Mar 15, 2026 9:14 PM
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These JBL Studio center channels have been successfully used as LCR channels in a home theater (according to AudioScienceReview). The HDI waveguide actually helps in this case. However you will likely need a subwoofer in your setup.
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Quote from wysiwyg1652 View quoted comment :
These JBL Studio center channels have been successfully used as LCR channels in a home theater (according to AudioScienceReview). The HDI waveguide actually helps in this case. However you will likely need a subwoofer in your setup.
Hard to imagine ANY home theater that doesn't need a sub, unless one never watches action/thriller movies.
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Gotta love the marketing. 'Everything an audiophile want' - yet it's not a 3-way

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Quote from sr27 View quoted comment :
Gotta love the marketing. 'Everything an audiophile want' - yet it's not a 3-way
Of course, everything is a marketing jingle at some level. Question is whether it's backed up by any actual performance excellence or not. Liberal return policies like Amazon's make it ridiculously easy to try it out for yourself and let YOUR ears decide, instead of only trusting anecdotal opinion. There are no guarantees in life, ever.
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Quote from sr27 View quoted comment :
Gotta love the marketing. 'Everything an audiophile want' - yet it's not a 3-way
Completely agree especially nowadays, where actually listening is much harder to do!

Much easier for these used car salesman to come in and promise these $400 speakers are as good as $3-$4k speakers!
Regurgitating something they read as proof LOL!
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