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Sony Alpha a7 IV Mirrorless Camera with FE 28-70mm Lens - $2,198 $2198

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Compatible Mountings Sony E, Sony FE
Aspect Ratio 16:9
Photo Sensor Technology CMOS
Supported File Format RAW
Brand Sony
Model Name Alpha 7 IV Kit
Maximum Webcam Image Resolution 33 MP
Photo Sensor Size Full Frame (35mm)
Special Feature 33.0 mp, 4K video, AI Subject Recognition
Color Black

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Compatible Mountings Sony E, Sony FE
Aspect Ratio 16:9
Photo Sensor Technology CMOS
Supported File Format RAW
Brand Sony
Model Name Alpha 7 IV Kit
Maximum Webcam Image Resolution 33 MP
Photo Sensor Size Full Frame (35mm)
Special Feature 33.0 mp, 4K video, AI Subject Recognition
Color Black

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Get the A7V from greentoe.com
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Quote from SlickCrayon1512 :
Too old. Pass
One of the greatest cameras ever made. Your comment basically expresses the mentality of a beginner.

High end sports photography is the only area where you will see a material difference in a newer camera and perhaps birding if your thing is birds in flight. But even so, this camera can handle both of those jobs, you just end up with more hits.

The comment should be, sell the lens. Not good enough for the camera. This camera is absolutely brilliant if you are an actual photographer.

The newer A75 has some problems especially if you don't use Sony glass. It also costs as much as a great lens more (like the Tamron 90mm 2.8 macro).

I'm a pro photographer with 10 digital camera bodies and over 50 lenses. It is my favorite camera even though I have cameras with higher resolution (that most glass can't even resolve to).

Would be a better deal if they dropped the lens and lowered the price, but after you sell the lens this price is a very good value.
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Quote from NavySardine761 :
One of the greatest cameras ever made. Your comment basically expresses the mentality of a beginner.

High end sports photography is the only area where you will see a material difference in a newer camera and perhaps birding if your thing is birds in flight. But even so, this camera can handle both of those jobs, you just end up with more hits.

The comment should be, sell the lens. Not good enough for the camera. This camera is absolutely brilliant if you are an actual photographer.

The newer A75 has some problems especially if you don't use Sony glass. It also costs as much as a great lens more (like the Tamron 90mm 2.8 macro).

I'm a pro photographer with 10 digital camera bodies and over 50 lenses. It is my favorite camera even though I have cameras with higher resolution (that most glass can't even resolve to).

Would be a better deal if they dropped the lens and lowered the price, but after you sell the lens this price is a very good value.
This or Fujifilm GFX 50S : )
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NavySardine761Apr 11, 2026 07:31 PM
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Quote from lionlies :
This or Fujifilm GFX 50S : )
Depends on your use case AND willingness to buy glass locked to a particular system. The cost to buy GFX glass of similar quality with versatility is going to be more expensive and less compatible than going the Sony route.
The GFX isn't a "real" medium format camera, it has a larger sensor than full frame but it isn't like a Phase One. It is more of a stop gap, and if you buy the glass for it, are you going to stick with that system in 10+ years. Sony Full frame obviously has a huge market and isn't going anywhere.
The GFX has an outdated contract detect only autofocus and the Sony A74 is worlds better for any subject.

I've used the GFX and would pick the Sony for just about anything. One might argue the GFX is better for landscapes, but I'd actually rather have the lighter system and more lens options than the extra dynamic range and file size. The medium format look is cool, but since Sony has more (and more reasonably priced shallow depth of field glass available, that "F4" GFX glass isn't going to create an effect that much different than a Sony 1.4 or 1.2

I print 3ft by 2 feet even with crops all the time with the Sony A74 with incredible detail. And it can certainly print larger than that easily. Unless you need a single frame to fill a literal wall at close distance, the Sony has plenty of resolution for any normal use (and most abnormal use).
Fuji - 8256×6192
Sony A74 - 7008x4672

The difference in actual resolution related to real world uses is quite minimal. And you have to deal with larger files which will rarely get used as you go above the Sony's size. (Yes I have a camera right around 50MP as well which I have used for years)

That said, the GFX 50S is a fun camera to shoot with and as long as you also have the glass to go with it, can be a lot of fun. But the Sony A7IV is easier to nail shots with and helps you focus on composition and the 3 settings that matter instead of an autofocus system that you have to think about as part of the process. Fine art photography of still subjects, the Fuji is a nice system, almost anything else the Sony is going to be easier to get the results you want and when it comes time for different lenses or a different body, Sony has a clear path. Fuji medium format has a much smaller population.

I've shot Phase One, Hasselblad, and Fuji GFX. Medium format has its place, but it also has some drawbacks to what Sony can do. If you shoot portraits, he Eye AF in a Sony A74 is dramatically more usable than anything in the medium format market as an example. The Sony A74 also had a firmware update to give in body focus stacking capabilities to it, so marco work got an upgrade as well.
Shooting tethered with the Sony and CaptureONe is also great in the studio.
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Quote from NavySardine761 :
One of the greatest cameras ever made. Your comment basically expresses the mentality of a beginner.High end sports photography is the only area where you will see a material difference in a newer camera and perhaps birding if your thing is birds in flight. But even so, this camera can handle both of those jobs, you just end up with more hits.The comment should be, sell the lens. Not good enough for the camera. This camera is absolutely brilliant if you are an actual photographer. The newer A75 has some problems especially if you don't use Sony glass. It also costs as much as a great lens more (like the Tamron 90mm 2.8 macro). I'm a pro photographer with 10 digital camera bodies and over 50 lenses. It is my favorite camera even though I have cameras with higher resolution (that most glass can't even resolve to). Would be a better deal if they dropped the lens and lowered the price, but after you sell the lens this price is a very good value.
One area i think a75 has the biggest edge is definitely on the video side with 4k60 no crop (4k 120 capable), reduced rolling shutter, ai focus, improved ibis. Also second base iso for slog3 footage is at 8000 vs 3200 on a7iv, which makes a huge different in low light. But yes on the photography side the improvements are very minimal.
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asuchemistApr 12, 2026 02:35 PM
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Quote from NavySardine761 :
One of the greatest cameras ever made. Your comment basically expresses the mentality of a beginner.

High end sports photography is the only area where you will see a material difference in a newer camera and perhaps birding if your thing is birds in flight. But even so, this camera can handle both of those jobs, you just end up with more hits.

The comment should be, sell the lens. Not good enough for the camera. This camera is absolutely brilliant if you are an actual photographer.

The newer A75 has some problems especially if you don't use Sony glass. It also costs as much as a great lens more (like the Tamron 90mm 2.8 macro).

I'm a pro photographer with 10 digital camera bodies and over 50 lenses. It is my favorite camera even though I have cameras with higher resolution (that most glass can't even resolve to).

Would be a better deal if they dropped the lens and lowered the price, but after you sell the lens this price is a very good value.
I want to get back into a full frame and Sony ecosystem. What are your thoughts on the older a7c? For family vacations and gatherings.
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Quote from VerbalEruptionZ2 :
One area i think a75 has the biggest edge is definitely on the video side with 4k60 no crop (4k 120 capable), reduced rolling shutter, ai focus, improved ibis. Also second base iso for slog3 footage is at 8000 vs 3200 on a7iv, which makes a huge different in low light. But yes on the photography side the improvements are very minimal.
Well it only crops at 4K 60fps (not at 24fps like film or at 30fps like broadcast video).
AI focus improvements is cool (if using sony glass - good luck with 3rd party on the "5"), but $40K cameras and they use manual focus pull rigs still.
Rolling shutter is improved for videos where that is an issue, and I love having some good ibis but realistically any real video work is going to need a tripod or a gimbal.
Dynamic range is actually slightly worse with the 5 which was surprising.
I'll also say that shotting video in 4K is not worth it for most people and 1080P looks great on both platforms. While I have a large OLED TV (so yes, I'm serious about video), I think that for most people 4K video for personal stuff and semi-pro projects is not worth the headache editing it as 1080P is far easier to work with and the results are so close to each other.
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Quote from asuchemist :
I want to get back into a full frame and Sony ecosystem. What are your thoughts on the older a7c? For family vacations and gatherings.
I'd ask what is the cost difference you are looking at on the used A7c (not the A7c2 which has superior eye tracking autofocus)
One of my biggest complaints is the lack of physical controls on the A7c. The A7iv you can map a dial to Shutter Speed, Aperture and ISO dials so you don't have to hit a single modifier button or go into the menus to adjust any of the primary settings. All right there controlled with your right hand.
Teh A7C effectively has a single dial (though you can program the control wheel for another but that is on the awkward side due to the placement (I've done that on the older A7ii body to get my "3 control wheels). The problem being there is no front dial, and it lack the top dial (just has the exposure control which is far less helpful than a dedicated ISO dial.

It can certainly take great pictures with the right lens on there, but it is not really ergonomic to hold (hand grip is barely there), and the view finder isn't the best.

Do you like to shoot in all manual (other than autofocus) so you have control of your images? If so, the A7c layout feels like they cripple hammered the user interface. If you shoot in something like AP all the time, the lack of dial controls might not be as maddening.

The technical aspects when the settings are established and image quality is certainly good enough - it is more of the things they took away to get the slightly smaller body size that make it feel more like an entry level digital camera. And while I love a rangefinder aesthetically they made that grip so small, it doesn't feel good in the hand. If you can try one in person, I'd check to make sure you are comfortable with it, and also check against another camera you might have as an alternative. The 7c has this notion of much smaller, but I think in a real world side by side they are actually not that much smaller than a much more ergonomic option in the Sony lineup.

As for the dial controls, if you hit the function button it has a bit of a "quick" menu that pops up where you can then just the pad to select and the wheel to rotate to adjust settings. This isn't as nice as dedicated dials, but also arguably better than a full blown everything menu dive.
Last edited by NavySardine761 April 12, 2026 at 02:46 PM.
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Alex_ThorlakeApr 16, 2026 12:17 AM
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"Aspect Ratio 16:9" ?

Image Size (pixels) [3:2] 35 mm full frame L : 7008 x 4672 (33 M)
Image Size (pixels) [16:9] 35 mm full frame L : 7008 x 3944 (28 M)
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nosurprisesplsApr 19, 2026 11:05 PM
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It's often been $2000 for the body alone; the kit lens is normally $200 -- you can get it used on ebay for $150.

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