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expiredtDames | Staff posted Apr 28, 2026 03:42 PM
ZOTAC Twin Edge OC GeForce RTX 5060 Ti Graphics Card + 750W 80+ Gold Rosewill PSU
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The 1070 had 73% of the Vram of the 1080 TI, while the 5070 has only 37.5% of the current flagship Vram...
There isn't anything comparable on the market today to the 1070 - even the 5080 falls short. So the actual relative 1070 performance today would hypothetically cost somewhere between a 5080 and 5090, if it existed.
Not to mention, the 5060 vs 5060 TI, 8gb to 8gb is a apples to apples conversation. The fud logic of "my old 1/4 ton truck might be less horsepower but back then horses were stronger because they didn't drink soy milk, so in reality it works out to more power vs a modern HEMI" is a coping mechnism...at best. Not to mention DDR7 is going to beat the pants off of DDR6 and older....even when playing Pong @ 1440p all ultra settings.
P.S. What "older hardware" do you think my 5060 is installed in? Am I rocking PCI to AGP adapter for my PIII or somehow got it running on my old Tandy 2 via duct tape and bubble gum
Not to mention, the 5060 vs 5060 TI, 8gb to 8gb is a apples to apples conversation. The fud logic of "my old 1/4 ton truck might be less horsepower but back then horses were stronger because they didn't drink soy milk, so in reality it works out to more power vs a modern HEMI" is a coping mechnism...at best. Not to mention DDR7 is going to beat the pants off of DDR6 and older....even when playing Pong @ 1440p all ultra settings.
P.S. What "older hardware" do you think my 5060 is installed in? Am I rocking PCI to AGP adapter for my PIII or somehow got it running on my old Tandy 2 via duct tape and bubble gum
Not to mention, I think you are conflating the fact that some older games can run better on older hardware. You seem to believe there is some fancy magic happening in the background when it tends to be as simple as using the same native Directx version (vs a translation layer). But that is an entirely different topic which I am not sure you are ready to discuss.
FWIW, I was trying to use references you might relate to. Appears I hit the nail on the head. I can live with you being offended you understood them
Not to mention, I think you are conflating the fact that some older games can run better on older hardware. You seem to believe there is some fancy magic happening in the background when it tends to be as simple as using the same native Directx version (vs a translation layer). But that is an entirely different topic which I am not sure you are ready to discuss.
FWIW, I was trying to use references you might relate to. Appears I hit the nail on the head. I can live with you being offended you understood them
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However in your previous post you said that all this "background voodoo" is "grossly exaggerated" and "not applicable in 99.9% use cases," so let me briefly explain how this technology actually works.
DLSS, or what you refered to as "background voodoo," renders a frame at a lower resolution and upscales with high fidelity using AI (ala tensor cores, or "fancy magic") in real time. Since the initial rendering is at a lower resolution, it takes up less physical memory, allowing GPUs with smaller VRAM to process more memory intensive workloads. The impact is especially significant for ray tracing, because the memory cost scales with the number of pixels being calculated. DLSS is applicable to most of the recent and upcoming games. For older games upscaling is still supported at the driver/software level. Here are some quick numbers for without/with DLSS:
Cyberpunk 2077 (Path Tracing) ~20 FPS ~110 FPS
Alan Wake 2 (Path Tracing) ~22 FPS ~105 FPS
Crimson Desert (Ultra) ~32 FPS ~90 FPS
Black Myth: Wukong (Full RT) ~35 FPS ~95 FPS
Star Wars Outlaws (RTXDI Max) ~42 FPS ~115 FPS
Now.. you've already convinced me that this explanation and these numbers mean nothing to you, but it seems like some people were trashing this deal just because of the 8gbs of VRAM. I just want to point this out to those who aren't willfully ignorant - VRAM isn't the only factor that dictates how well your GPU can handle a game, and with modern tech like DLSS, some cards can very well punch above its weight class.
Not to mention, high end, low end, older (but still 'modern'), newer, etc cards can take advantage of technology such as (but not limited to) DLSS. An 8GB 4060 or a 32GB 5090 feature upscaling as an option. You are selectively grading these cards on a curve...pretending things like DLSS (or FSR) only exist when you want to pretend you're punching above your weight class....well so can a 5090. It wasn't what was being discussed nor does it even matter since all the cards in question all have that feature. LOL....
My only point was a 8GB 5060 can most certainly play many games at 1440 @ all ultra settings. I never ever ever ever ever ever needed to rely on running at lower resolutions, upscaling, etc. 1440......try and keep up.
But real talk, thanks for "eXpLaInInG" that to me. Last nail in the coffin proving you can't discuss this topic with any degree of competence.
Not to mention, high end, low end, older (but still 'modern'), newer, etc cards can take advantage of technology such as (but not limited to) DLSS. An 8GB 4060 or a 32GB 5090 feature upscaling as an option. You are selectively grading these cards on a curve...pretending things like DLSS (or FSR) only exist when you want to pretend you're punching above your weight class....well so can a 5090. It wasn't what was being discussed nor does it even matter since all the cards in question all have that feature. LOL....
My only point was a 8GB 5060 can most certainly play many games at 1440 @ all ultra settings. I never ever ever ever ever ever needed to rely on running at lower resolutions, upscaling, etc. 1440......try and keep up.
But real talk, thanks for "eXpLaInInG" that to me. Last nail in the coffin proving you can't discuss this topic with any degree of competence.
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you responded by saying you didn't understand what i was saying because you were talking about native rendering. this is where the disconnect happened in your process of comprehension. the context of my reply was to address an idea reflected in this thread and all those naysayers, not your specific case. i replied to your post because we both agree on the fact that 8gb cards are still viable.
i work with someone that constantly gets reported to HR because of his lack of social skills. my coworkers and i have speculated that he might be on the spectrum, extremely insecure (constantly having to prove himself in a dramatic fashion), or he might be someone that just simply can not process information objectively and translates everything through the lens of his own ego. he behaves a lot like you do. context blindness, confirmation bias, inability to separate subjectivity from objectivity, ad hominem attacks that he thinks are "clever" but just makes people cringe.
an example from our interaction would be that you assumed that the difference in DLSS performance is "grossly exaggerated" - this is a subjective notion. the FPS data of DLSS's performance is measured and peer reviewed - this is an objective notion. as i explained in my previous post, this huge leap (ie: 20FPS to 110FPS in cyberpunk) is the result of ray reconstruction in DLSS, as ray/path tracing scales massively with resolution, which has a huge impact on VRAM. its not "background voodoo" or "grossly exaggerated." and it helps make cards more viable for modern games even at 8gb.
since this is just an online forum i can directly offer you some constructive criticism. interpretation is subjective, its important to understand context. when someone is agreeing with you, try to apply critical thinking and understand intent. not everyone is trying to prove you wrong, if you assume that of everyone it just screams insecurity.
when i said you took it the wrong way i didnt really want to go into details, but you keep doubling down and this interaction keeps getting more convoluted, so hopefully this clears things up bit.
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you responded by saying you didn't understand what i was saying because you were talking about native rendering. this is where the disconnect happened in your process of comprehension. the context of my reply was to address an idea reflected in this thread and all those naysayers, not your specific case. i replied to your post because we both agree on the fact that 8gb cards are still viable.
i work with someone that constantly gets reported to HR because of his lack of social skills. my coworkers and i have speculated that he might be on the spectrum, extremely insecure (constantly having to prove himself in a dramatic fashion), or he might be someone that just simply can not process information objectively and translates everything through the lens of his own ego. he behaves a lot like you do. context blindness, confirmation bias, inability to separate subjectivity from objectivity, ad hominem attacks that he thinks are "clever" but just makes people cringe.
an example from our interaction would be that you assumed that the difference in DLSS performance is "grossly exaggerated" - this is a subjective notion. the FPS data of DLSS's performance is measured and peer reviewed - this is an objective notion. as i explained in my previous post, this huge leap (ie: 20FPS to 110FPS in cyberpunk) is the result of ray reconstruction in DLSS, as ray/path tracing scales massively with resolution, which has a huge impact on VRAM. its not "background voodoo" or "grossly exaggerated." and it helps make cards more viable for modern games even at 8gb.
since this is just an online forum i can directly offer you some constructive criticism. interpretation is subjective, its important to understand context. when someone is agreeing with you, try to apply critical thinking and understand intent. not everyone is trying to prove you wrong, if you assume that of everyone it just screams insecurity.
when i said you took it the wrong way i didnt really want to go into details, but you keep doubling down and this interaction keeps getting more convoluted, so hopefully this clears things up bit.
FWIW, good luck with whatever you are going though and feel free to have the last word, clearly you need it....
FWIW, good luck with whatever you are going though and feel free to have the last word, clearly you need it....
It's okay you don't have to read it. These posts are for everyone else. It's not about "the last word," I just don't want other people to be misinformed because of your ignorance.
It's okay you don't have to read it. These posts are for everyone else. It's not about "the last word," I just don't want other people to be misinformed because of your ignorance.
But they aren't needed when you are already running well at the target resolution...what the adults were discussing. NO ONE WAS RANTING ABOUTUPSCALING EXCEPT YOU. Seriously kiddo, you are having a full blown argument with yourself and if you remember...I even stated 8GB cards were "viable" at 1440 WITHOUT needing to upscale. Wow...just wow.
But they aren't needed when you are already running well at the target resolution...what the adults were discussing. NO ONE WAS RANTING ABOUTUPSCALING EXCEPT YOU. Seriously kiddo, you are having a full blown argument with yourself and if you remember...I even stated 8GB cards were "viable" at 1440 WITHOUT needing to upscale. Wow...just wow.
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I'm kind of interested in psychology, especially in this era where misinformation is rampant on social media and forums like these so it's always interesting to continue a discussion with somebody that demonstrates willful ignorance, so I can identify/categorize the dissonance. I already mentioned a few of your issues in my previous posts.. such as your inability to separate objective information from your own egocentric viewpoint. It's why you misinterpreted my posts in the first place. On top of other factors like the general lack of critical thinking, delusions of grandeur, the need to constantly prove yourself by trying to attack others. These are fundamental problems that translates to bad life decisions and outcomes. You should talk to your therapist about this, bring this thread with you and let me know how it goes.
I'm kind of interested in psychology, especially in this era where misinformation is rampant on social media and forums like these so it's always interesting to continue a discussion with somebody that demonstrates willful ignorance, so I can identify/categorize the dissonance. I already mentioned a few of your issues in my previous posts.. such as your inability to separate objective information from your own egocentric viewpoint. It's why you misinterpreted my posts in the first place. On top of other factors like the general lack of critical thinking, delusions of grandeur, the need to constantly prove yourself by trying to attack others. These are fundamental problems that translates to bad life decisions and outcomes. You should talk to your therapist about this, bring this thread with you and let me know how it goes.
Wait wait wait...I am "misinterpreting" you right? You aren't here attacking me? No no no, calling me "egocentric" or alluding to some kind of "pSyChOlOgY" mechanism is just part of a GPU conversation...right? "The need to constantly prove yourself by trying to attack others"...."On top of other factors like the general lack of critical thinking"..."the need to constantly prove yourself by trying to attack others"....or should I discuss my GPU ram choices with a "therapist?" Pot, meet the kettle....factory.
Real talk, what "bad life decisions and outcomes" do you know about me? Which "fundamental problems" have led up to them? I'm not the strange person attacking others in a GPU thread because their poorly articulated point didn't land so now they have created a moral pissing contest only they are scoring. LOL...
P.S. And yes, I agree "The viability of 1440p at native depends on the title"...if you comprehended my original post you would have grasped that. Maybe your therapist can explain that to you
-Moby Dick out
Wait wait wait...I am "misinterpreting" you right? You aren't here attacking me? No no no, calling me "egocentric" or alluding to some kind of "pSyChOlOgY" mechanism is just part of a GPU conversation...right? "The need to constantly prove yourself by trying to attack others"...."On top of other factors like the general lack of critical thinking"..."the need to constantly prove yourself by trying to attack others"....or should I discuss my GPU ram choices with a "therapist?" Pot, meet the kettle....factory.
Real talk, what "bad life decisions and outcomes" do you know about me? Which "fundamental problems" have led up to them? I'm not the strange person attacking others in a GPU thread because their poorly articulated point didn't land so now they have created a moral pissing contest only they are scoring. LOL...
P.S. And yes, I agree "The viability of 1440p at native depends on the title"...if you comprehended my original post you would have grasped that. Maybe your therapist can explain that to you
-Moby Dick out
Like this last reply, for example. Let me help you break down your cognitive issues, think of it as an exercise in analysis. I'm going to try to format this in a way so that a 10 year old can understand, but let me know if you still have a problem understanding.
2) Context blindness - You seem hyper fixated on what you said, but its essentially meaningless. you can say "My 8GB 3070 can handle 1440p in all ultra in many games (ultrawide) 3440x1440." or "My 8GB 1070 can handle 1440p in all ultra in many games (ultrawide) 3440x1440." Which games? stardew valley? CIv 5? you're not answering or contributing to why 8gb cards are still relevant, which is the actual question and context of the thread.
3) Constant need for validation - your immediate reaction to correction is hostility and dismissal instead of engagement and discussion. this kind of negative behavior is driven by emotion and acts as a protective shield. if you acknowledged your lack of understanding your fragile self-image would shatter.
these are just observations that match up with common psychological/behavioral issues and shouldn't be viewed as "attacks." an attack would be using alternating caps and lowercase in an attempt mock someone.. its childish and immature. But then again, this notion is relative. who knows, its possible that you might actually be 10 years old.
How much time have you spent yelling at the monitor because you are obviously having an emotional breakdown when the adults are just attempting to discuss GPUs?
LOL...just listen to yourself. I was talking about gaming at 1440 (using my 8GB 5060) yet here we are watching you cope a week later about anything and everything but.
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