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May 11, 2026 9:16 AM

Open Box - Excellent: ASUS ROG Flow Z13 Laptop: 13.4" 2.5K, Ryzen AI Max+ 395

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Best Buy has ASUS ROG Flow Z13 Touchscreen 2-in-1 Gaming Laptop (Open Box - Excellent, GZ302EA-R9641TB) for $1757.99. Shipping is free or select free store pickup where available.

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Also Available (store pickup only): Specs:
  • 13.4" 2560x1600 WQXGA 180Hz IPS-Level Touchscreen Display
  • AMD Ryzen AI MAX+ 395 16-Core Processor
  • AMD Radeon 8060S Graphics
  • AMD XDNA NPU up to 50TOPS
  • 64GB LPDDR5X 8000 Memory (Onboard)
  • 1TB M.2 2230 PCIe 4.0 NVMe Solid State Drive
  • Backlit RGB Chiclet Keyboard
  • Wi-Fi 7(802.11be) (Triple band) 2x2 + Bluetooth 5.4
  • Windows 11 Home
  • Ports:
    • 1x 3.5mm Combo Audio Jack
    • 1x HDMI 2.1 FRL
    • 2x Type-C USB 4 with support for DisplayPort / power delivery (data speed up to 40Gbps)
    • 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-A (data speed up to 10Gbps)
    • 1x card reader (microSD) (UHS-II)
  • 70WHr Battery
  • ~2.65 lbs

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Best Buy has ASUS ROG Flow Z13 Touchscreen 2-in-1 Gaming Laptop (Open Box - Excellent, GZ302EA-R9641TB) for $1757.99. Shipping is free or select free store pickup where available.

Thanks to Community Member Dr.W for sharing this deal.

Note: Availability for store pickup will vary by location.

Also Available (store pickup only): Specs:
  • 13.4" 2560x1600 WQXGA 180Hz IPS-Level Touchscreen Display
  • AMD Ryzen AI MAX+ 395 16-Core Processor
  • AMD Radeon 8060S Graphics
  • AMD XDNA NPU up to 50TOPS
  • 64GB LPDDR5X 8000 Memory (Onboard)
  • 1TB M.2 2230 PCIe 4.0 NVMe Solid State Drive
  • Backlit RGB Chiclet Keyboard
  • Wi-Fi 7(802.11be) (Triple band) 2x2 + Bluetooth 5.4
  • Windows 11 Home
  • Ports:
    • 1x 3.5mm Combo Audio Jack
    • 1x HDMI 2.1 FRL
    • 2x Type-C USB 4 with support for DisplayPort / power delivery (data speed up to 40Gbps)
    • 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-A (data speed up to 10Gbps)
    • 1x card reader (microSD) (UHS-II)
  • 70WHr Battery
  • ~2.65 lbs

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Ditto, amazing device. Picked one up for $2k in the fall last year.

Ridiculously powerful, lots of use cases, replaced my entire desktop setup with it (TB4 Dock when at home, connected to a 49" Samsung).

Do yourself a massive favor and get G-Helper, don't bother with Asus' bloatware (Armoury Crate and MyAsus). Gives all the necessary features in a tiny and lightweight package, low overhead, and even more controls for undervolting, overclocking, etc. I've got modes setup for completely silent, balanced, and then an overdrive setting.

These price points are a steal, especially considering the RAM scenario right now.
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This open-box ASUS ROG Flow Z13 is a compact 13.4-inch 2.5K 180Hz touch gaming and AI laptop that stands out for strong local model performance, excellent gaming, and unusually high 64GB memory at this price. The 1TB SSD is the only upgradable part, and Linux has been reported to work well after a larger drive swap. The main tradeoffs are the smaller screen, open-box uncertainty, and possible warranty reduction if the previous owner registered it. It is a powerful portable machine, but the open-box condition and battery and charging quirks deserve attention.

Common Questions (5)

  • The Ryzen AI Max+ 395 and 64GB configuration is strong for local LLMs, with enough memory to run models like Qwen 3.6 35B and around 70B models at lower quantization. Gaming is also reported as excellent, including recent titles running smoothly without throttling.

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  • It can charge from lower-wattage USB-C chargers, but some setups cause charge/discharge cycling and mode switching because the USB-C port only charges the battery rather than providing true passthrough power. A custom profile between Quiet and Balanced, or using the brick, helps avoid the constant on/off behavior.

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  • 64GB is enough for many local text models, including roughly 70B models at lower quantization, but it is still below the 128GB ceiling found on some other AI-focused laptops. It is a practical middle ground if you want local inference on a laptop without moving to a remote 128GB box.

    fintlewoodlewixfintlewoodlewixKeithY9797Elon69

  • Open-box means used returns that were dropped off at the counter and not fully checked. It is not a fake refurbished unit, so expect a return item rather than a factory-refurbished machine.

    DrRad

  • Not always. If the previous owner registered it, the warranty can be reduced to about 3 months instead of the full year when you register it yourself.

    OG-Bluntman

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May 12, 2026 2:05 AM
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KeithY9797May 12, 2026 2:05 AM
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Quote from fintlewoodlewix View quoted comment :
I'm trying to figure out the use case for this much RAM.
128GB? OK, I can run a model in the 60-80GB range with context. Huge step up from the smaller models.
But 64GB of RAM? ...
Better to have a headless machine over the network with 128 GB accessed remotely. It's worth the step up.
Or the 128gb of this, but then are you truly going to run your llm on a laptop? Again, may as well just ssh or tailscale into a remote box with more ram to work with, strix halo, dgx spark, or sufficiently sized pcie cards.
64GB should let you do 70B model in Q4, maybe Q6, which is not bad, compare to Q8 on 128GB.
May 12, 2026 2:18 AM
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Titan5178May 12, 2026 2:18 AM
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Quote from fintlewoodlewix View quoted comment :
but then are you truly going to run your llm on a laptop? Again, may as well just ssh or tailscale into a remote box with more ram to work with, strix halo, dgx spark, or sufficiently sized pcie cards.
I'm using this amazing machine right now (with the 64GB) for OpenClaw with local models. It's slower than my desktop RTX 5090 but I can fit twice as large of models with large context windows and the latest MoE models speeds up things considerably. I do test it against OpenAI's models to compare and my local model responds just as fast.

The SSD is the only thing upgradable so I put in a 2TB drive and have installed Fedora. No issues with Linux.

Quote from ScarletMountain659 View quoted comment :
Was looking for panther lake laptops, but they are wildly more expensive. Would probably be better to get either the open box of this, or the new version. Panther lakes only benefit over this would be battery life, but this would be far better for local LLMs. The main downside is the screen size
I also just picked up a Panther Lake 358H with the Intel Arc B390. Impressive for an iGPU but cannot hold up to the Z13 for gaming. Getting about 12 hours on that machine with light usage.
May 12, 2026 2:57 AM
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OG-BluntmanMay 12, 2026 2:57 AM
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One thing to keep in mind with Asus and open box, if the previous owner registered it then you will get a modified 3 month warranty when you go to register, not the full year. I fought with Asus and got nowhere on a previous purchase.
May 12, 2026 3:03 AM
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jeffccMay 12, 2026 3:03 AM
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Quote from averagemanatee View quoted comment :


What's the most demanding games you played consecutively for a few hours on this? Did it throttle from the temperature getting too hot?
Not really demanding but mostly recently released titles. RE9, AC Shadows, Horizon Forbidden West.... all run smoothly. No throttle since it is pasted with Liquid Metal plus the intake fan placement is at the top instead at the bottom. This is the charging adapter I used on airplane amazon.com/dp/B0FCSDD9H3
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May 12, 2026 3:10 AM
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Elon69
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May 12, 2026 3:10 AM
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Quote from KeithY9797 View quoted comment :
M5 Max with 128GB RAM is $5000 though... 3x more than this deal. But those 128GB are on a faster connection than this LPDDR5x (512-bit vs 128-bit). To give you an idea how fast the RAM in M5 Max, it is almost as fast as RTX 5070 GPU's memory speed.
So, it is not that this AMD processor lacks in AI computing power compare to M5 Max, it lacks memory speed by a mile...
Oh yes It is $5K lol it is damn expensive. I can't return it anymore and I don't wanna go to 32 GPUs either and it comes in at some weird memory config at 32 GPUs. was it 36? and next upgrade was like 64GB and eventually I price laddered it to 128GB.

For performance, memory bus is a limiting factor for LLMS (txt)

I still think compute power is lacking though between AI Max Chip. It's respectable but seems to be geekbench of 72-76% of a M5 Max (I found an image online).

Anyway, all this doesn't matter if you want image/videos, Mac and AMD Max Chips both suck compared to even the older desktop nvidia chips 30xx for example in image/video generation. m5 max is pitiful on this too. Pretty sure my RTX 2070 can generate 1080 images faster than this m5 max also.

If someone is looking to eventually generate image/video don't get a Mac or AMD AI Max chip, you will regret it as it too slow to be useful. (Idk how good AMD GPU RocM support is but pretty sure that is still not there yet).
Last edited by Elon69 May 11, 2026 at 09:21 PM.
May 12, 2026 3:27 AM
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HonestRaccoon2312May 12, 2026 3:27 AM
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Bought this for my neighbor
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May 12, 2026 5:36 AM
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SkillfulSnake326May 12, 2026 5:36 AM
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Quote from jeffcc View quoted comment :
Using one now. Excellent device. Gaming is excellent even on lower TDP. Helped me get through 13 hours flight with a 70W charger.

For $1600 for 64GB version that is hella steal. I paid almost $2400 few months ago
On the lower wattage charger, do you just mute the notifications about having a slow charger? I ended up bringing the brick with me because the computer constantly cycles at full charge between silent and performance modes, because the USB-C port doesn't pass through power... it just charges the battery, which then discharges a little, charges up again, etc.

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May 12, 2026 6:03 AM
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FairCircle9622May 12, 2026 6:03 AM
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Quote from DrRad View quoted comment :
Open box = used. Needs to be in title. They're not fake refurbished. Just straight returns that weren't checked since they were dropped off at the counter.
Does it need to be in the title though? That is what "open box" means, it is not like it is trying to say it is refurbished.
May 12, 2026 11:29 AM
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ScarletMountain659May 12, 2026 11:29 AM
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Quote from Titan5178 View quoted comment :

I'm using this amazing machine right now (with the 64GB) for OpenClaw with local models. It's slower than my desktop RTX 5090 but I can fit twice as large of models with large context windows and the latest MoE models speeds up things considerably. I do test it against OpenAI's models to compare and my local model responds just as fast.

The SSD is the only thing upgradable so I put in a 2TB drive and have installed Fedora. No issues with Linux.



I also just picked up a Panther Lake 358H with the Intel Arc B390. Impressive for an iGPU but cannot hold up to the Z13 for gaming. Getting about 12 hours on that machine with light usage.
Can you comment on running models like Qwen 3.6 35b on the B390 vs this? Very interested in both but can't find benchmarks on the PTL for LLMs
May 12, 2026 3:49 PM
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jcom86May 12, 2026 3:49 PM
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Quote from SkillfulSnake326 View quoted comment :
On the lower wattage charger, do you just mute the notifications about having a slow charger? I ended up bringing the brick with me because the computer constantly cycles at full charge between silent and performance modes, because the USB-C port doesn't pass through power... it just charges the battery, which then discharges a little, charges up again, etc.
This point can be really annoying. I had a Z13 for a few months last year and with certain 100w chargers it would charge up then stop charging, only to start charging again when it reached a certain threshold. If you have your device set to switch modes based on charge state this can get annoying REAL fast. What I found with 70w and lower chargers is that it's best to create a custom profile that's somewhere between Quiet and Balanced so that it's not using more wattage than a lower wattage charger can provide. This will help extend playtime and SHOULD make it so the charger isn't switching on and off constantly.
May 12, 2026 4:10 PM
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Cheapskate27May 12, 2026 4:10 PM
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For the experts that have been tinkering for a bit here - is Unified Memory old news now? It's pretty capable, but it seems like optimization of MoE models for splitting between VRAM and RAM is getting somewhere, and they are running much better on systems with 16GB (or less GPUs). Will we still be talking about Unified Memory systems for dedicated AI Rigs in 2027?
May 12, 2026 5:00 PM
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SkillfulSnake326May 12, 2026 5:00 PM
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Quote from jcom86 View quoted comment :
This point can be really annoying. I had a Z13 for a few months last year and with certain 100w chargers it would charge up then stop charging, only to start charging again when it reached a certain threshold. If you have your device set to switch modes based on charge state this can get annoying REAL fast. What I found with 70w and lower chargers is that it's best to create a custom profile that's somewhere between Quiet and Balanced so that it's not using more wattage than a lower wattage charger can provide. This will help extend playtime and SHOULD make it so the charger isn't switching on and off constantly.
Thanks, and yeah, I think I'm going to have to change the settings so it doesn't switch modes if I'm on a smaller charger. Appreciate it! Glad I am not the only one this drove nuts
May 12, 2026 5:02 PM
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tinypaladinMay 12, 2026 5:02 PM
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Quote from macdaddy01 View quoted comment :
It is on sale for $2050 new if you don't want to deal with the open-box lottery.
Is the price for new still considered slick?
May 12, 2026 5:25 PM
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tinypaladinMay 12, 2026 5:25 PM
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Price went up. Sad. I was gonna get one.

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May 12, 2026 5:56 PM
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SmilingPassenger937May 12, 2026 5:56 PM
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