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forum threadZorba1446 posted Jun 06, 2026 02:54 PM
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Emotiva XT1, 3-way TOWER speakers with RIBBON tweeter, $699/pr (reg. $999)

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3 x 5.25" bass woofers and 4.5" dedicated midrange woofer, with an AMT folded ribbon tweeter that provides extended and crystal clear highs with zero harshness unlike many metal domes. 89db sensitivity and 45Hz F3 according to specs, so it would be fine for music even without a sub.

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3 x 5.25" bass woofers and 4.5" dedicated midrange woofer, with an AMT folded ribbon tweeter that provides extended and crystal clear highs with zero harshness unlike many metal domes. 89db sensitivity and 45Hz F3 according to specs, so it would be fine for music even without a sub.

https://emotiva.com/products/airm...udspeakers

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CouleinJun 07, 2026 03:51 PM
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do the actually need 60 watts minimum? Denon AVR-S760H is the amp with a 5.1 speaker setup intended.
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Quote from Coulein :
do the actually need 60 watts minimum? Denon AVR-S760H is the amp with a 5.1 speaker setup intended.
That's Emotiva's way of nudging you to buy one of their (not particularly great, imo) amps. Smilie If you have your speakers crossed over to a subwoofer (highly recommended in 99% of cases) and are not a loudness freak sitting 15-20ft away trying to make your ears bleed, I doubt your Denon will have any problems. Remember, the audio industry is an INDUSTRY---specs are routinely massaged for various hidden marketing agendas.
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Quote from Coulein :
do the actually need 60 watts minimum? Denon AVR-S760H is the amp with a 5.1 speaker setup intended.
Depends who you ask.
From personal experience they do need solid clean power for optimal performance.

They can sound muddy if they're under powered ime.
So they like power & imo are designed to be played at higher than average volume levels.

Even then, whether you prefer the sound will be a crap shoot imo.
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Quote from Coulein :
do the actually need 60 watts minimum? Denon AVR-S760H is the amp with a 5.1 speaker setup intended.
https://www.perlistenaudio.com/pr...ifications
Here is a $7000/pr boutique audiophile tower speaker, with 3 giant 8.4" woofers --- if you scroll down the page to the specs table, you'll notice that its minimum "Recommended Amp Power" is 50 watts, just 10 watts less than the humble Emotiva's! 🤣
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Quote from supermanrob :
Depends who you ask. From personal experience they do need solid clean power for optimal performance.They can sound muddy if they're under powered ime. So they like power & imo are designed to be played at higher than average volume levels. Even then, whether you prefer the sound will be a crap shoot imo.
Raise your crossover to 70 or so he then 10w will have you at referance levels solid.
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SmartFriction5417Jun 08, 2026 06:41 AM
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Quote from Coulein :
do the actually need 60 watts minimum? Denon AVR-S760H is the amp with a 5.1 speaker setup intended.
If you have a Sun for anything below 60hz these will be fine on 10-15w rms
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Quote from SmartFriction5417 :
Raise your crossover to 70 or so he then 10w will have you at referance levels solid.
Used a 2700 with a sub & pretty sure used 80 crossover.
Definitely didn't listen nowhere near reference.
Confident the 760 would not fair better.
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Quote from SmartFriction5417 :
If you have a Sun for anything below 60hz these will be fine on 10-15w rms
Yep, this is true for a good 90% of speakers on the market, and is one of those dirty little secrets that the industry doesn't want you to know: having a sub and running a high pass crossover (a.k.a. "bass management") in your receiver/amp pretty much levels the playing field in terms of how beefy an amp you need.

The closely related dirty little secret is that since most casual consumers pick speakers by how much bass they produce, having a sub also levels the playing field between moderately priced ($300-500/pr bookshelves, $1000-1500/pr towers) speakers vs the higher dollar ones.
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Quote from Zorba1446 :
Yep, this is true for a good 90% of speakers on the market, and is one of those dirty little secrets that the industry doesn't want you to know: having a sub and running a high pass crossover (a.k.a. "bass management") in your receiver/amp pretty much levels the playing field in terms of how beefy an amp you need.

The closely related dirty little secret is that since most casual consumers pick speakers by how much bass they produce, having a sub also levels the playing field between moderately priced ($300-500/pr bookshelves, $1000-1500/pr towers) speakers vs the higher dollar ones.
This is good advice since people seem to obsess over wattage so much. If the speaker is loud enough for your space, your wattage is fine. And a powered sub takes a lot of strain away.
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Quote from FancyMitten7524 :
This is good advice since people seem to obsess over wattage so much.
It's not a naturally occuring phenomenon, but the predictable result of industry marketing---that's how flagship receivers and boutique amps are sold.
"B-b-but do you have enough watts?" 🤣 They pull the same trick in car audio as well.
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Quote from FancyMitten7524 :
This is good advice since people seem to obsess over wattage so much. If the speaker is loud enough for your space, your wattage is fine. And a powered sub takes a lot of strain away.
Well science does say wattage matters.
Even Emotiva recommends 60 watts or greater for a reason.

The unique beauty of sound is it's completely subjective.
You can believe whatever you want & you would be correct(for you).

If one agrees with that belief, these towers should be a wasted cost.
The XB1s for $219/pr should produce the same results since the sub would take all the strain away also?
All at a much lower cost!
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Quote from Coulein :
do the actually need 60 watts minimum? Denon AVR-S760H is the amp with a 5.1 speaker setup intended.
the Denon is 75W/ch. My own experience with the SR-393 is that even if it's rated for 100w/ch it's more around the 25-40W mark. Having tested a gamut of amps over the last 5 years to find that ideal sound (Yamaha, Denon, Peachtree, NAD, Fosi Audio, Dayton Audio, Kit amps such as LM3886 based and more that I'm forgetting) a dedicated stereo amp with headroom over the capacity of the speaker is well worth it. I've gone thru NAD right from 3020 - 3220/25 - 320BEE - 325BEE - C338 - D 3020 V2 and while it punches above it's category, when matched with a capable speaker, the 40-50W limits become evident. It's great for desktop/small room/low level listening no doubt.

So while it's an industry and yes everyone wants to upsell, a $500 Dayton Audio A400 (200W/Ch) will massively outperform the Denon.
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Quote from jmate :
the Denon is 75W/ch. My own experience with the SR-393 is that even if it's rated for 100w/ch it's more around the 25-40W mark. Having tested a gamut of amps over the last 5 years to find that ideal sound (Yamaha, Denon, Peachtree, NAD, Fosi Audio, Dayton Audio, Kit amps such as LM3886 based and more that I'm forgetting) a dedicated stereo amp with headroom over the capacity of the speaker is well worth it. I've gone thru NAD right from 3020 - 3220/25 - 320BEE - 325BEE - C338 - D 3020 V2 and while it punches above it's category, when matched with a capable speaker, the 40-50W limits become evident. It's great for desktop/small room/low level listening no doubt.

So while it's an industry and yes everyone wants to upsell, a $500 Dayton Audio A400 (200W/Ch) will massively outperform the Denon.
Am curious: are you using a bass-managed 2.1 or full-range 2.0 with all these different amps?
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Quote from Zorba1446 :
Am curious: are you using a bass-managed 2.1 or full-range 2.0 with all these different amps?
Different options since I have 3 different listening setups/areas. Barring the desktop setup which has a 8" active sub complementing the LS 3/5A desktop monitors, the other 2 are 2.0.
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Quote from jmate :
Different options since I have 3 different listening setups/areas. Barring the desktop setup which has a 8" active sub complementing the LS 3/5A desktop monitors, the other 2 are 2.0.
Ok, that makes sense then. Without a sub carrying the low frequencies, yes I would agree that a more capable amp does make an audible difference if one listens way above the usual 65-75db volume range, especially if in a large room and sitting much more than 8-10ft away.

Is your desktop setup bass managed, or are you getting "double bass" with the sub?

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