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Sep 3, 2026 11:27 AM

New Denon 3800 or refurb 3900 for $1499

$1,499

$1,799

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You can get a brand new Denon 3800 for $1499 at accessories4less

https://www.accessories4less.com/...ver/1.html

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a refurb 3900 (current gen w/higher spec DACs) for the same price

https://www.accessories4less.com/...eos/1.html

Yeah it's expensive but that's the market for Denons that can run Dirac ART these days!
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You can get a brand new Denon 3800 for $1499 at accessories4less

https://www.accessories4less.com/...ver/1.html

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a refurb 3900 (current gen w/higher spec DACs) for the same price

https://www.accessories4less.com/...eos/1.html

Yeah it's expensive but that's the market for Denons that can run Dirac ART these days!

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Sep 3, 2026 12:18 PM
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turnne
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Sep 3, 2026 12:18 PM
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Denon x3800 should be no more than $999, In my opinion, based on the specs AND my personal ownership of the X4800

I dont know enough about the X3900, but hopefully they stepped up their game for its price point
Sep 3, 2026 1:09 PM
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supermanrobSep 3, 2026 1:09 PM
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My take from comparing this to the 4800 in my 5.2.4 setup.
There wasn't a sonic difference worth the $400 cost difference(at the time).
Especially if you use external amps, it's basically zero in that instance.

I would throw in all the PAC units in that mix also imo.
Keep in mind, with those units.
Some of the specs that make a sonic difference(with surround) that they don't offer, this already does.
Especially if you add in A1EVO which is free!

You'll have to wait for next year to get them on the new Onkyo units coming out.
It's really the only significant stepping up they are adding.
You may be waiting awhile beyond that on getting 11 channel processing at this price!

Might be awhile before this hits $1k again anytime soon, in all this turmoil.
The other big reason is for the specs it offers imo.
Last edited by supermanrob September 5, 2026 at 09:03 AM.
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Sep 3, 2026 4:31 PM
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I'm guessing everyone who wanted a 3800 already has one. It won't get any lower than this until BF I think.
Sep 3, 2026 6:43 PM
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supermanrobSep 3, 2026 6:43 PM
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TBH if you have no brand preference,only need 9 channels and after Dirac.
The RZ30 is the best buy especially when it hits $700 ime.
It's very capable, includes DL & for most people, DLBC is all you really need.

If you buy into this price to performance setups, ART isn't worth it for that scenario ime.
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SharpBelieve5057Sep 3, 2026 7:12 PM
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Quote from supermanrob View quoted comment :
TBH if you have no brand preference,only need 9 channels and after Dirac. The RZ30 is the best buy especially when it hits $700 ime.It's very capable, includes DL & for most people, DLBC is all you really need. If you buy into this price to performance setups, ART isn't worth it for that scenario ime.
Agree. Waiting for anther $699 rz30. If nr7100 indeed drop to $450 in a future sales which one is more worthy
Sep 3, 2026 7:46 PM
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MemorableSuit793Sep 3, 2026 7:46 PM
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X3800H for $1,500 refurb is insane.
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Quote from MemorableSuit793 View quoted comment :
X3800H for $1,500 refurb is insane.
It's the refurb for the 3900 that is $1500, not the 3800.

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supermanrobSep 3, 2026 8:31 PM
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Quote from SharpBelieve5057 View quoted comment :
Agree. Waiting for anther $699 rz30. If nr7100 indeed drop to $450 in a future sales which one is more worthy
Depends.
The rz30 is much newer, has pre outs, independent sub outs, access to DLBC(big 1 imo).
If those aren't important or of interest, save the money and get the 7100 imo.
Last edited by supermanrob September 5, 2026 at 05:18 AM.
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Darknight007Sep 4, 2026 6:35 AM
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I bought the x3800h almost 3 years ago. It developed a high pitched sound from all speaker outputs out of the blue. Denon sent for repair 4 times without fix because the repair shop could not replicate issue. Denon replaced it with a refurbished unit with same issue. It's at the shop right now, again. Denon refuses to acknowledge that their unit is faulty even after I tested at 3 different houses and different speakers, headphones and shared them the video and they still said it is my outlet or my speakers. Like how? Google "X3800h High pitch sound" and you'll see a 12 sec video by a reddit user with the issue I'm talking about, plus the commenters on the post having same issues. I asked Denon for a new unit, have a tech or rep come and check the issue in person, or give a discount on the x3900h but they said they already replaced mine (with a refurb) and that's the best they can do unless the repair shop is able to fix it.
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Quote from Darknight007 View quoted comment :
I bought the x3800h almost 3 years ago. It developed a high pitched sound from all speaker outputs out of the blue. Denon sent for repair 4 times without fix because the repair shop could not replicate issue. Denon replaced it with a refurbished unit with same issue. It's at the shop right now, again. Denon refuses to acknowledge that their unit is faulty even after I tested at 3 different houses and different speakers, headphones and shared them the video and they still said it is my outlet or my speakers. Like how? Google "X3800h High pitch sound" and you'll see a 12 sec video by a reddit user with the issue I'm talking about, plus the commenters on the post having same issues. I asked Denon for a new unit, have a tech or rep come and check the issue in person, or give a discount on the x3900h but they said they already replaced mine (with a refurb) and that's the best they can do unless the repair shop is able to fix it.
Honestly, I think you may be the only one with the issue. I have never heard of this.

Ever ask for calibration help from the forums?
Last edited by shaddai September 4, 2026 at 05:29 AM.
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Quote from Darknight007 View quoted comment :
I bought the x3800h almost 3 years ago. It developed a high pitched sound from all speaker outputs out of the blue. Denon sent for repair 4 times without fix because the repair shop could not replicate issue. Denon replaced it with a refurbished unit with same issue. It's at the shop right now, again. Denon refuses to acknowledge that their unit is faulty even after I tested at 3 different houses and different speakers, headphones and shared them the video and they still said it is my outlet or my speakers. Like how? Google "X3800h High pitch sound" and you'll see a 12 sec video by a reddit user with the issue I'm talking about, plus the commenters on the post having same issues. I asked Denon for a new unit, have a tech or rep come and check the issue in person, or give a discount on the x3900h but they said they already replaced mine (with a refurb) and that's the best they can do unless the repair shop is able to fix it.

I have seen that issue reported several times

They should have given you a replacement unit after the after the 3rd time

I have had issues with Denon/Marantz in the past with failures. It took some time to work with what I call their subpar customer service ...but they have outright replaced 3 units for me over the years
Sometimes I was so frustrated with them as soon as I received the replacement unit I just sold it...as was the case with the Marantz 7015 I owned recently
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Quote from Darknight007 View quoted comment :
I bought the x3800h almost 3 years ago. It developed a high pitched sound from all speaker outputs out of the blue. Denon sent for repair 4 times without fix because the repair shop could not replicate issue. Denon replaced it with a refurbished unit with same issue. It's at the shop right now, again. Denon refuses to acknowledge that their unit is faulty even after I tested at 3 different houses and different speakers, headphones and shared them the video and they still said it is my outlet or my speakers. Like how? Google "X3800h High pitch sound" and you'll see a 12 sec video by a reddit user with the issue I'm talking about, plus the commenters on the post having same issues. I asked Denon for a new unit, have a tech or rep come and check the issue in person, or give a discount on the x3900h but they said they already replaced mine (with a refurb) and that's the best they can do unless the repair shop is able to fix it.
Sorry that happened to you.
I'm on my 3rd Denon and know several owners, no one has had this issue(or any others).
To be fair, every brand does have a failure rate.

I assume this was with internal amps?
Did you ever try using external amps?
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3 or more bad experiences in a row would have me running to another brand. So you have to decide if you're a glutton for punishment or just a rep trolling a competitor's product? I know many folks who felt foolish waiting for ART to come to their brand just to get a gut punch that it won't be sooner than 2027. One adage that still rings true today is "you get what you pay for."
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astralplasticSep 4, 2026 6:50 PM
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What's the difference between these two receivers?

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Quote from astralplastic View quoted comment :
What's the difference between these two receivers?
Not much especially sonically.
Newer DAC(not really sonic benefit), support for wireless surrounds & Channel expander.

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