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"1-year warranty: This item has a 1-year warranty serviced by Allstate"
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"This unit has been professionally refurbished. It has been inspected, cleaned, repaired, and is in good condition. It will show noticeable signs of use including moderate scratching and/or scuffs/dings/dents."
Battery health at 80% or higher
Includes:- MacBook Air 13" Laptop
- Power Adapter
Features:- Color: Midnight
- 13.6-inch LED-backlit Liquid Retina IPS display (2560 x 1664)
- Apple M2 8-Core 3.49GHz processor
- 16GB RAM
- 256GB Solid State Drive
- Apple GPU with 8-core graphics
- 802.11ax Wireless LAN (WiFi 6)
- Bluetooth Wireless 5.0
- 1080p FaceTime HD camera
- Supports macOS 12.4 or higher
- Ports:
- 2x Thunderbolt 4 ports
- 1x 3.5mm Headphone/Mic combo jack
https://www.ebay.com/itm/37712895...5000006407
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It absolutely is an ongoing trend to call something that's used by any other name. It's misleading and genuinely incorrect. But this post isn't about WallyWorld, WurstBye, OldChicken, etc. It's about THIS seller calling THIS product "refurbished". Let's keep it ontrack and ontopic, mmmk?
And a power test + wipe down isn't a refurbishment, no matter how you spin it. Nothing is being actually refurbished. I don't trust the seller AND it's not actually refurbished -- doesn't need to be mutually exclusive!
The seller explicitly states that the units were "inspected, cleaned, repaired", and eBay has an actual Good - Refurbished condition category. You may not consider the seller's refurbishment process sufficient to meet your personal standard, but that's different from establishing that the seller simply wiped these machines down and resold them.
You're essentially taking "I don't trust this seller's refurbishment process" and converting it into "I know what they did to these units." The former is an opinion; the latter requires evidence.
And if you have that evidence, e.g. documentation showing that these units were only power-tested and wiped down, I'd genuinely be interested in seeing it. Otherwise, we're debating your assumption about the refurbishment process rather than the actual listing. If you can't provide any such evidence, then don't bother commenting and ruining this thread for other members considering buying this.
The seller explicitly states that the units were "inspected, cleaned, repaired", and eBay has an actual Good - Refurbished condition category. You may not consider the seller's refurbishment process sufficient to meet your personal standard, but that's different from establishing that the seller simply wiped these machines down and resold them.
You're essentially taking "I don't trust this seller's refurbishment process" and converting it into "I know what they did to these units." The former is an opinion; the latter requires evidence.
And if you have that evidence, e.g. documentation showing that these units were only power-tested and wiped down, I'd genuinely be interested in seeing it. Otherwise, we're debating your assumption about the refurbishment process rather than the actual listing. If you can't provide any such evidence, then don't bother commenting and ruining this thread for other members considering buying this.
I did that knowing full well that it was a gamble (the price was right -- for those products at that time), and fleabay tends to aggressively side with the buyer when there are disputes.
They made the claim they're refurbished. They can absolutely prove what they've actually done to refurbish them...! Generic answers like "repaired" aren't good enough. And that "Good -Refurbished" rating is actually set by the seller, not fleabay. Sorry to burst your bubble, but there isn't an "eBay Inspector" going to each client sites to do an independent verification...!
We're going 10 rounds here. You claim there's more to their claims of refurbishment. I'm saying they're just used. We'll just have to agree to disagree!
I did that knowing full well that it was a gamble (the price was right -- for those products at that time), and fleabay tends to aggressively side with the buyer when there are disputes.
They made the claim they're refurbished. They can absolutely prove what they've actually done to refurbish them...! Generic answers like "repaired" aren't good enough. And that "Good -Refurbished" rating is actually set by the seller, not fleabay. Sorry to burst your bubble, but there isn't an "eBay Inspector" going to each client sites to do an independent verification...!
We're going 10 rounds here. You claim there's more to their claims of refurbishment. I'm saying they're just used. We'll just have to agree to disagree!
You've now acknowledged that your position is essentially based on your personal experiences with other refurb purchases. That's useful context, but it doesn't establish that these particular MacBooks are merely used or that this seller's refurbishment process consists of nothing more than a wipe-down and power test.
And for the record, your claim that "Good - Refurbished" is simply a seller-created rating is factually incorrect and highlights your limited, or none, knowledge on the matter. It's an official eBay Refurbished program [ebay.com] condition with defined requirements.
So yes, let's agree to disagree, but on the actual disagreement. You believe these are merely used; the listing, seller and eBay's own classification say otherwise. Your past experiences don't establish that the latter is false. Skepticism is fine. But if the evidence isn't there, "agree to disagree" is just a polite way of ending an argument after the evidence stopped cooperating.
Funny coming from someone who seems to make a habit of showing up in MacBook threads with categorical claims about sellers and products, while providing little actual evidence to substantiate them.
You've now acknowledged that your position is essentially based on your personal experiences with other refurb purchases. That's useful context, but it doesn't establish that these particular MacBooks are merely used or that this seller's refurbishment process consists of nothing more than a wipe-down and power test.
And for the record, your claim that "Good - Refurbished" is simply a seller-created rating is factually incorrect and highlights your limited, or none, knowledge on the matter. It's an official eBay Refurbished program condition with defined requirements.
So yes, let's agree to disagree, but on the actual disagreement. You believe these are merely used; the listing, seller and eBay's own classification say otherwise. Your past experiences don't establish that the latter is false. Skepticism is fine. But if the evidence isn't there, "agree to disagree" is just a polite way of ending an argument after the evidence stopped cooperating.
I have zero need to prove anything to you. And you probably wouldn't believe anything I say, right? That makes the entire exercise pointless and just a personal attack. Please stop conducting yourself towards me like this, it's growing tiresome.
I have tried to steer things back on topic here, only for you to attempt to derail it time and time again.
But I'll personally digress for once: That's not to say anything of getting a multitude of post reply notifications from you which hit my inbox (in past threads), only for the posts to be gone when I open them to view them in-thread. (And the previews weren't nice -- incredibly berating messages, at best. Insulting at worst.) You'd think I wouldn't notice, but I did. I don't what the point of that is, and as curious as I am as to your mindset and intent, I ultimately don't need you to explain. Only to stop.
I've tried to politely end the discussion, yet you bounce back with hostility and being confrontational. So let me be blunt. We're done with this discussion. Next time, we'll get the mods involved.
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